Alliance Discussion - Page 207

On August 29 2016 03:45 nojok wrote:
It should have been loda leaving instead of S4 and bulldog imo. Anyway, the team did not practice hard enough given akke manages a business and bulldog has time to stream pubs with noobs. It's the first thing they had to change.

On August 29 2016 05:19 LemOn wrote:
Makes a lot of sense, I think both Bulldog and S4 need to be paired with hungry ambitious teams once more, grats to them for having the courage. And I doubt making another SWE stack and getting some new players in will hurt Loda
either. I wouldn't mind him venture into different positions like support or offline, and leave 1 to more edgy players

On August 29 2016 08:37 Zea! wrote:
It's over.

I don't know, my friends, wanted just to write something. Shit happens they say, we have to accept it.
A change was needed, now the boys will have more success, will have better teams, will finally win again.
Being better? Success? Win? Money? 1st places? ... Is it all about that? It really is all about that? I don't think so. I really do not want to reduce everything to reasons so pitiful.

Since NTH days, i followed this legendary team, through literally everything, the first victories, the Envy drama and the Alliance's birth, the growth of the team, the dreamhack, starladder and then the incredible China run in G-1 League, the apotheosis with the TI3 victory, the season after, the decline, the come back with Dreamhack victory pre-TI4, the TI4 flop and the new era with Chessie and Misery, the Chessie's injury drama, the departure and then the dark days... Akke+4, the constant roster shuffles, the bottom of the barrel, the heartbreaking game against PR and the failure to qualify to TI5. Therefore, the resurrection, the partial reunion with Mynuts, the first major and the complete reunion with Jerry, the second Alliance coming, with WCA and Starladder victories, the second and the third Major with so-so results, the TI6 incredible qualifiers... the upper-bracket run and the last downfall.
It's bitter. It would not have ended this way. It is as if the page to be written was not completed.

Jonathan, Joakim, Henrik, Gustav, Jerry, Kelly i just want to thank you. Thank you for all the emotions and passion you instilled me these years. Even when i had some bad days, i couldn't wait to watch some of your games, to distract a bit from the daily routine, dream with you and all the Alliance fans, daydreaming on next journeys, games, adventures, Bulldog's streams and girls, ecc.
It was a kind of treasure, you know that Alliance would be there for you, letting you dream, with the same people, the same group of friends from the same country who just wanted to play some dota and make us enjoy the games.
They had this gift of making you feel at home, one of them, one of the f[A]mily.
You even had the power to create a bond between strangers distant thousands of kilometers on a forum (i enjoyed this wild ride with you boys Bluzi, Lookfirewood, Gumba, Tesgah, Gintonic, Wakadodo, Wims80, sunrazgriz, amigo, heymaney, yurie, lowdice, jack_knife and all the other Alliance fans i'm missing, sorry i can't list everyone :D).
You all deserve the best, and i hope you'll understand that what were you able to do for us is far more important that the first places in tournaments or big prize-pool victories. You won our hearts and our loyalty.

Gustav, Henrik, surely you can win other tournaments with other teams, you are both incredible players, second to no one, but i'm pretty sure it will not taste the same, you will just be two of the many in those Dota teams, however great those teams will be. I think you'll miss us as well, your true and loyal fans. Wish you both to accomplish the best you are aiming to, but i'll always hope one day, you'll be back, at home, where you both belong.
Jerry, i simply love you and your attachment to the team, even when you parted ways i remember how much sad you were for your friends after TI5 qualifiers... you never left the team even if you were not physically there, i'll keep supporting you, keep fighting!
Joakim, you are my inspiration as a player and a genuine, kind, polite person, thanks for having held out in the hardest moments of the team and have always had a positive approach in both victories and defeats. I hope you'll write for real a book about this incredible story, it deserves it, you deserve it. Good luck, will miss you.
Jonathan, you are a truly a spiritual leader, the soul of Alliance, romantic and dreamer. Even today, you do not accept that it should end this way and will try a new chapter, another rebuild from the ashes, to keep the dream alive, to give it the end that deserves. Keep fighting, Jon!

Although from a certain point of view I agree with you, i don't know if you should keep the Alliance name, for the next team. I think that today, the heart and the identity of it has gone, hopefully... not forever.

But the memory remains... the greatest games in Dota history, Alliance 19 - Mouz 0, G-1 League without a single game dropped, TI3 incredible run and the best grand finals ever, the Navi (El Clasico) and C9 unmatched rivalries, the series vs EG in ESL New York, Alliance vs LGD series WCA finals, Alliance vs NIP mega creeps comeback, Alliance vs Liquid game 3 Major qualifications, the crazy TI6 qualifiers, the last pearl vs EG in TI6 group stage and many, many other games... i admit, i have some tears in my eyes.

The Alliance has gained his glory, i'll not forget, we'll not forget.


Thank you all.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHmPlk6OTMo

On August 29 2016 08:37 Zea! wrote:
It's over.

I don't know, my friends, wanted just to write something. Shit happens they say, we have to accept it.
A change was needed, now the boys will have more success, will have better teams, will finally win again.
Being better? Success? Win? Money? 1st places? ... Is it all about that? It really is all about that? I don't think so. I really do not want to reduce everything to reasons so pitiful.

Since NTH days, i followed this legendary team, through literally everything, the first victories, the Envy drama and the Alliance's birth, the growth of the team, the dreamhack, starladder and then the incredible China run in G-1 League, the apotheosis with the TI3 victory, the season after, the decline, the come back with Dreamhack victory pre-TI4, the TI4 flop and the new era with Chessie and Misery, the Chessie's injury drama, the departure and then the dark days... Akke+4, the constant roster shuffles, the bottom of the barrel, the heartbreaking game against PR and the failure to qualify to TI5. Therefore, the resurrection, the partial reunion with Mynuts, the first major and the complete reunion with Jerry, the second Alliance coming, with WCA and Starladder victories, the second and the third Major with so-so results, the TI6 incredible qualifiers... the upper-bracket run and the last downfall.
It's bitter. It would not have ended this way. It is as if the page to be written was not completed.

Jonathan, Joakim, Henrik, Gustav, Jerry, Kelly i just want to thank you. Thank you for all the emotions and passion you instilled me these years. Even when i had some bad days, i couldn't wait to watch some of your games, to distract a bit from the daily routine, dream with you and all the Alliance fans, daydreaming on next journeys, games, adventures, Bulldog's streams and girls, ecc.
It was a kind of treasure, you know that Alliance would be there for you, letting you dream, with the same people, the same group of friends from the same country who just wanted to play some dota and make us enjoy the games.
They had this gift of making you feel at home, one of them, one of the f[A]mily.
You even had the power to create a bond between strangers distant thousands of kilometers on a forum (i enjoyed this wild ride with you boys Bluzi, Lookfirewood, Gumba, Tesgah, Gintonic, Wakadodo, Wims80, sunrazgriz, amigo, heymaney, yurie, lowdice, jack_knife and all the other Alliance fans i'm missing, sorry i can't list everyone :D).
You all deserve the best, and i hope you'll understand that what were you able to do for us is far more important that the first places in tournaments or big prize-pool victories. You won our hearts and our loyalty.

Gustav, Henrik, surely you can win other tournaments with other teams, you are both incredible players, second to no one, but i'm pretty sure it will not taste the same, you will just be two of the many in those Dota teams, however great those teams will be. I think you'll miss us as well, your true and loyal fans. Wish you both to accomplish the best you are aiming to, but i'll always hope one day, you'll be back, at home, where you both belong.
Jerry, i simply love you and your attachment to the team, even when you parted ways i remember how much sad you were for your friends after TI5 qualifiers... you never left the team even if you were not physically there, i'll keep supporting you, keep fighting!
Joakim, you are my inspiration as a player and a genuine, kind, polite person, thanks for having held out in the hardest moments of the team and have always had a positive approach in both victories and defeats. I hope you'll write for real a book about this incredible story, it deserves it, you deserve it. Good luck, will miss you.
Jonathan, you are a truly a spiritual leader, the soul of Alliance, romantic and dreamer. Even today, you do not accept that it should end this way and will try a new chapter, another rebuild from the ashes, to keep the dream alive, to give it the end that deserves. Keep fighting, Jon!

Although from a certain point of view I agree with you, i don't know if you should keep the Alliance name, for the next team. I think that today, the heart and the identity of it has gone, hopefully... not forever.

But the memory remains... the greatest games in Dota history, Alliance 19 - Mouz 0, G-1 League without a single game dropped, TI3 incredible run and the best grand finals ever, the Navi (El Clasico) and C9 unmatched rivalries, the series vs EG in ESL New York, Alliance vs LGD series WCA finals, Alliance vs NIP mega creeps comeback, Alliance vs Liquid game 3 Major qualifications, the crazy TI6 qualifiers, the last pearl vs EG in TI6 group stage and many, many other games... i admit, i have some tears in my eyes.

The Alliance has gained his glory, i'll not forget, we'll not forget.


Thank you all.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHmPlk6OTMo

On August 29 2016 15:46 Racket wrote:

I respect your feeling but... isn't this the second time this happens?
Why wouldn't you call the next team also Alliance? Don't you want Alliance to win TI again?

My advice is: Support the team, not the players. Love the players if you want., but tell their history because that is what remains from them.

On August 29 2016 16:59 lookfirewood wrote:


The thing with Alliance tho is we love both the players and the team. That's the magic mix. That's what's unique for Alliance (for me at least). The friendship thing really makes the difference. So giving someone advice like that is like telling someone who's miserably in love to stop being in love. Doesn't work like that And tbh, I wouldnt want it any other way. I hate being "semi invested" in a team. There's gotta be something else, something more. I can watch good dota any day, but I wanna be invested like i've been in alliance again. That's why it hurts. But time will tell. Maybe EGM and Loda can get this boat into water again and maybe it'll be pure magic again!