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Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
December 03 2015 22:51 GMT
#2061
There are some speculations that say Loda maybe switching to 4 and a carry will join... mb Bl[A]ck?
The Real Power~
yookstah
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia655 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-03 23:00:30
December 03 2015 22:59 GMT
#2062
So many teams looking for sources of blame when they aren't doing well. Instead of working on their issues, they find it best to boot someone who is not part of the in-team "clique/cirtclejerk" (read: p much orig [A] members). Wasn't he only in for like 3 months?

Also as someone said, this definitely highlights the flaw of the roster lock.

Very disappointing. gl to mynuts
"I'm saying that you are all the time aggressive. I say to you choose situations to be aggressive and not aggressive. I'm talking it" - Cooller
Klowney
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden277 Posts
December 03 2015 23:21 GMT
#2063
Role swap seems the most likely but it could be either Loda or S4.
sang
Profile Joined February 2011
United States251 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-04 00:03:07
December 04 2015 00:02 GMT
#2064
On December 04 2015 07:51 Zea! wrote:
There are some speculations that say Loda maybe switching to 4 and a carry will join... mb Bl[A]ck?


Where did you see speculation about a role swap? Here is the problem, if there is a role swap and say Loda moves to support, you are going to need to find someone who can play carry with at least some semblance of hero pool depth. If Alliance wants to stick with an all swede roster, there just aren't many good options to fill the necessary positions.

Jonassomfan has pretty much the same hero pool as Bulldog, and I don't think you want either of them playing carry as their hero pools just aren't suited for it. Apemother hasn't played in a while, but most of his top heroes aren't really in the meta on any position. EGM on paper would be the obvious best fit, but I have serious reservations about them bringing EGM back for a 3rd time, and that's assuming he would even leave 4C&L.

No matter which way you slice the cake, there really aren't many good options out there for maintaining an all swede lineup. As crazy as it sounds, they might be better off trying to bring in someone like Black to play carry while swapping Loda to support.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
December 04 2015 01:17 GMT
#2065
Alliance pulling a Na'Vi again.
Brood War loyalist
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
December 04 2015 02:16 GMT
#2066
I honestly think they should have stuck with MyNuts. He was improving all the time and was easily one of their best players and I am still angry they kicked him. Instead of giving the squad time to develop they just went for a scapegoat
Unless there is some internal issue they dont wanna say in public but somehow I dont think that is the reason :/
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-04 04:00:52
December 04 2015 03:59 GMT
#2067
Oooh maybe jonassomfan as 4. Ay I still remember suggesting Cr1t in this thread, look where he is now

Anyway I was initially skeptical with mynuts, but he has proven himself. Seems like alliance didn't understand that the reason why they performed badly was because they decided to draft stupidly instead of what's worked for them.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
December 04 2015 11:03 GMT
#2068
On December 04 2015 12:59 DucK- wrote:
Oooh maybe jonassomfan as 4. Ay I still remember suggesting Cr1t in this thread, look where he is now

Anyway I was initially skeptical with mynuts, but he has proven himself. Seems like alliance didn't understand that the reason why they performed badly was because they decided to draft stupidly instead of what's worked for them.


They probably did understand it but they had hard time coping with the bad results so they are looking to change things up to get motivation and expecatations back , the more i think about it the more it seems reasonable that thye change roles because i dont see a better 4 out there right now for them to pick up.... damn shame i liked his play and growth...
WakaDoDo
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden1183 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-04 16:48:09
December 04 2015 16:46 GMT
#2069
If loda moves into the 4th position. What about finally putting bulldog in the safelane on farming carries 90% of the time and be done with it? Instead of having him even try to farm the hardlane. Get someone else to do the blinkstun hero duties in the offlane.

Just thinking about position changes makes me depressed somehow
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-04 16:52:06
December 04 2015 16:51 GMT
#2070
Nice mynuts kick, some days before the shuffle deadline. What a cool team.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-04 17:16:02
December 04 2015 17:15 GMT
#2071
On December 05 2015 01:51 hunter_x wrote:
Nice mynuts kick, some days before the shuffle deadline. What a cool team.

Yo what is your beef with [A] I think like 80% of your posts are in here shitting on the team xD discussion is fine but damn your so sour about that Liquid loss in major qualifiers lmao
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Meiffeltower
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden674 Posts
December 04 2015 17:39 GMT
#2072
On December 05 2015 01:51 hunter_x wrote:
Nice mynuts kick, some days before the shuffle deadline. What a cool team.


ye... you shouldnt be able to swap players at all tbh.. all teams have to stay as five to the end of times.. like.. swap a player even inside the transfer window assigned by valve is disgusting !! .. smh
LEEEEE YOOOUUUUUNG HOOOOOO
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
December 04 2015 17:50 GMT
#2073
On December 05 2015 02:39 Meiffeltower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2015 01:51 hunter_x wrote:
Nice mynuts kick, some days before the shuffle deadline. What a cool team.


ye... you shouldnt be able to swap players at all tbh.. all teams have to stay as five to the end of times.. like.. swap a player even inside the transfer window assigned by valve is disgusting !! .. smh

Nah I kinda understand the statement from him it's just he seems to enjoy coming to this thread and stir shit up just because his precious liquid lost to them.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Hai1Fyre
Profile Joined May 2014
South Africa270 Posts
December 04 2015 18:36 GMT
#2074
Can anyone confirm who Alliance will use as a standin this weekend at the Defense?
Birthdays are good for you. The more you have the longer you live!
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
December 04 2015 18:36 GMT
#2075
On December 05 2015 03:36 Hai1Fyre wrote:
Can anyone confirm who Alliance will use as a standin this weekend at the Defense?

Kebap
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Hai1Fyre
Profile Joined May 2014
South Africa270 Posts
December 04 2015 18:37 GMT
#2076
On December 05 2015 03:36 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2015 03:36 Hai1Fyre wrote:
Can anyone confirm who Alliance will use as a standin this weekend at the Defense?

Kebap


Thanks. I just saw Akke confirm on Twitter
Birthdays are good for you. The more you have the longer you live!
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
December 05 2015 00:03 GMT
#2077
On December 04 2015 09:02 sang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2015 07:51 Zea! wrote:
There are some speculations that say Loda maybe switching to 4 and a carry will join... mb Bl[A]ck?


Where did you see speculation about a role swap? Here is the problem, if there is a role swap and say Loda moves to support, you are going to need to find someone who can play carry with at least some semblance of hero pool depth. If Alliance wants to stick with an all swede roster, there just aren't many good options to fill the necessary positions.

Jonassomfan has pretty much the same hero pool as Bulldog, and I don't think you want either of them playing carry as their hero pools just aren't suited for it. Apemother hasn't played in a while, but most of his top heroes aren't really in the meta on any position. EGM on paper would be the obvious best fit, but I have serious reservations about them bringing EGM back for a 3rd time, and that's assuming he would even leave 4C&L.

No matter which way you slice the cake, there really aren't many good options out there for maintaining an all swede lineup. As crazy as it sounds, they might be better off trying to bring in someone like Black to play carry while swapping Loda to support.


The Alliance Tattoo reddit guy said it and talked about some insider info... dunno if it's true, but with Black leaving in the same day... i smell something going on
The Real Power~
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
December 05 2015 00:54 GMT
#2078
Honestly Loda to 4 would be the only change big enough to justify kicking mynuts imo.. Agree with others that he seemed to be one of their best and most stable players. But also the team seemed to be doing well... Sure they crashed and burned to LANs but they played well online, and the open bracket run in the major qualis was quite impressive.
But Black carry and Loda/Akke support has some serious promise on paper at least.
Gogo alliance!
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
MirageTaN
Profile Joined June 2012
Singapore871 Posts
December 05 2015 03:53 GMT
#2079
Mynuts and his QOP , that was lengendary . Bad choice honestly , if anything I think alliance is just blinding themselves by keeping old player just cause glory days.
#TLWIN TI7, TLDota BEST TL
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-05 14:45:28
December 05 2015 14:45 GMT
#2080
1 game up vs Liquid! One more boys! And if they win prepare for Hunter_x salt posts here and if they lose prepare for gloating hunterx posts xD
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
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