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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
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superstartran
United States4013 Posts
On December 11 2011 07:54 Cel.erity wrote: Yeah DotA isn't really the type of game where playing 12 hours a day is going to help you. Way better to play with the same people for a few hours a day, beyond the 5th or 6th hour everything is going to blur together and you'll learn nothing. This is contrary to Starcraft where you need a really high level of mechanical skill and robotic habits; DotA is more about awareness, and that only degrades over long practice periods. Processing information quickly in order to maximize positional efficiency is one of the key skills that professional players have over pretty much every other player. The reason why Chinese players are so good at DotA 1 is because they practice quite abit in order to learn what to do in certain situations. Yes, DotA is easier mechanically than Starcraft, but the processing of information on the fly it is just as hard if not harder in some instances. | ||
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kylols
59 Posts
On December 11 2011 07:52 architecture wrote: How do you know what you truly want. You are barely 20, you haven't even finished college, or had a real job, or had a real life. Your life has consisted of a video game and watching anime. You don't know what you want. You need to leave your cocoon and get with reality before you decide to go further down the rabbit hole. I have trouble understanding this kind of post, and i think you should, too. If you merely look at what you are saying, it sounds as if you are concerned for EE's well being and are therefore posting to warn him away and ultimately get him onto a path to happiness, or more happiness then the path he is proposing will lead to. But if you care about him as another human being and are trying to protect him, why is the tone of your post wholly condescending and harsh? I would have to say it is because you posted this to justify your life decisions or at the least your beliefs, to add to yourself by telling him how hes wrong. His reality doesnt match up with yours, does it threaten you? Look deeply. | ||
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kylols
59 Posts
On December 11 2011 07:54 Cel.erity wrote: Yeah DotA isn't really the type of game where playing 12 hours a day is going to help you. Way better to play with the same people for a few hours a day, beyond the 5th or 6th hour everything is going to blur together and you'll learn nothing. This is contrary to Starcraft where you need a really high level of mechanical skill and robotic habits; DotA is more about awareness, and that only degrades over long practice periods. Youve made up all of this information just in time to post it. Are you aware that DotA is such a huge esport in china that even people who do not play videogames know of it? Its similiar to bw in korea. Are you also aware that in china they have teamhouses in which many dota teams practice for 10+ hours a day? The chinese are also the best in the world. | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On December 11 2011 08:03 kylols wrote: Youve made up all of this information just in time to post it. Are you aware that DotA is such a huge esport in china that even people who do not play videogames know of it? Its similiar to bw in korea. Are you also aware that in china they have teamhouses in which many dota teams practice for 10+ hours a day? The chinese are also the best in the world. The reason the Chinese are the best in the world is that the practice, together, in the same house, for 10+ hours a day. This is not the same as playing in random pubs or inhouses for 10+ hours a day. They are playing that much to enhance their teamwork, not their understanding of the game. For someone who isn't good enough yet to go pro, it's not going to help to train for ridiculous amounts of time. And yeah, pretty sure me and bulba know more about this than you do. | ||
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
On December 11 2011 08:00 kylols wrote: I have trouble understanding this kind of post, and i think you should, too. If you merely look at what you are saying, it sounds as if you are concerned for EE's well being and are therefore posting to warn him away and ultimately get him onto a path to happiness, or more happiness then the path he is proposing will lead to. But if you care about him as another human being and are trying to protect him, why is the tone of your post wholly condescending and harsh? I would have to say it is because you posted this to justify your life decisions or at the least your beliefs, to add to yourself by telling him how hes wrong. His reality doesnt match up with yours, does it threaten you? Look deeply. But he's right. Reality can be harsh. The OP just needs to keep these two mindsets in his head. There's an overwhelming amount of people that drop out of school to chase their dream of becoming a rock star(something even mainstream society knows well about) and end up working a life they hate because they didn't have what it takes and luck wasn't on their side. | ||
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kylols
59 Posts
On December 11 2011 08:11 Roe wrote: But he's right. Reality can be harsh. The OP just needs to keep these two mindsets in his head. There's an overwhelming amount of people that drop out of school to chase their dream of becoming a rock star(something even mainstream society knows well about) and end up working a life they hate because they didn't have what it takes and luck wasn't on their side. Hes "right"? About what? That its a risk? Yes, it is. But perhaps you didnt read my post. Its paradoxical to scream at someone about how dangerous this decision that they are making which will only effect them is. If you feel the need to warn him away, you care for his well-being. If you care for his well-being why are you screaming? I explained why in my post, and i only posted it hoping that the person i quoted would awake to realize their behavior. | ||
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LevenT
Germany55 Posts
I know u played dota aswell, just like me. But look what i archieved in my "dota career", i won 4 times dreamhack, around 8 lan events and countless online tours(esl majors). Every team i played in was a top team and regarded as the dominant team in their respective era. The same shit i did in hon, but it was much shorter like 1 and 1/2 year compared to 4/5 years of dota. And u know what i got????...... NOTHING....literally.They promised me alot of money and all this kind of shit, but after all nothing happened. So think twice and dont hope for dota 2.....START BE A MAN and play starcraft 2, where the real competition is. | ||
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BuLba
United States1585 Posts
On December 11 2011 08:03 kylols wrote: Youve made up all of this information just in time to post it. Are you aware that DotA is such a huge esport in china that even people who do not play videogames know of it? Its similiar to bw in korea. Are you also aware that in china they have teamhouses in which many dota teams practice for 10+ hours a day? The chinese are also the best in the world. they practice 10 + hours a day but this is mostly for teamwork. i meant to stay at the TOP of dota in terms of skill, you dont have to practice like sc2. you can take a break for a week or a month and come back and not become 'rusty" etc. obviously this isnt over a span of a year or so but taking a couple months break from sc2 would hurt you drastically. look at vigoss, he took a break from dota for quite a long time but came back and was still good individually within a few games. ya his playstyle didnt fit well but after playing ih games with him, i could still see some of that "godly" skills he used to portray and he was a remarkable IH league player but not the best competitive player. they train mostly to try new strategies and to work better together. | ||
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BuLba
United States1585 Posts
dollars? | ||
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BlackGosu
Canada1046 Posts
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BuLba
United States1585 Posts
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BlackGosu
Canada1046 Posts
and now LoL has like some 5million dollar season prize | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
My point is that your program is VERY GOOD. Few people get in it every year. I am sure you know that. It's UofT's best program by far, unless you count their medical school. Your statement about your courses that DESTROY YOUR SOUL is way too biased. | ||
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LevenT
Germany55 Posts
u dont need to come from a rts background to be good in starcraft 2, only players with weak minds think like that. mechanics of sc2 are way more simplified u can not compare them to broodwar. Babyknight also came from dota and look how far he went already, i know hes not a top player or something but he is definatly trying and on his way up,or look at desrow, same thing he wasnt even good in dota (no offence). Actually i play it already for a good amount of time, and im placed in Grandmasters EU ( at least something to start things off). And i guess u never really won major lan events in your life so u dont know about all the taxes u have to pay and also a good cut of your money goes to your management. 1.6 million dollar is still good money regardless, but once in a year, and its only worth if for top 3 imo. Just seems not a good deal at all | ||
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BlackGosu
Canada1046 Posts
there'll be definitely be big tourneys for dota2 when game hits retail. and valve is hosting the international every year. possibly with even bigger prize pool | ||
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ICarrotU
United States254 Posts
On December 11 2011 08:42 LevenT wrote: why edit your post bulba? u dont need to come from a rts background to be good in starcraft 2, only players with weak minds think like that. mechanics of sc2 are way more simplified u can not compare them to broodwar. Babyknight also came from dota and look how far he went already, i know hes not a top player or something but he is definatly trying and on his way up,or look at desrow, same thing he wasnt even good in dota (no offence). Actually i play it already for a good amount of time, and im placed in Grandmasters EU ( at least something to start things off). And i guess u never really won major lan events in your life so u dont know about all the taxes u have to pay and also a good cut of your money goes to your management. 1.6 million dollar is still good money regardless, but once in a year, and its only worth if for top 3 imo. Just seems not a good deal at all Damn, I used to love watching your matches..you're still one of the greatest legends in dota, it's very disheartening when you take everything into account and apply reality to it. I hope you're wrong about DotA 2, though, I hope the scene explodes and players can actually make an honest living off of playing and competing, very sad to hear that the same didn't happen for you though. I hope to see you stomp in SC2, I'll be rooting for you! LevenT fighting! | ||
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InternalSync
176 Posts
What DotA needs once its released is a lot of tournaments and most importantly, professional casters, coz right now, none of the Dota casters are even close to say day[9], artosis, tasteless .. who imo bring in the viewers and increase the game popularity. OP, you can tune in to Dendi's own3d stream (averages between 2-3k) and see what he is doing. I'm sure you know who he is, but like some other people have said here, its only his skill that brings in the viewers, but mostly his personality. | ||
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Diizzy
United States828 Posts
On December 11 2011 08:31 BuLba wrote: funny thing is navi has made more money than every team* in the history of any game put together not true. | ||
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LevenT
Germany55 Posts
On December 11 2011 09:02 ICarrotU wrote: Damn, I used to love watching your matches..you're still one of the greatest legends in dota, it's very disheartening when you take everything into account and apply reality to it. I hope you're wrong about DotA 2, though, I hope the scene explodes and players can actually make an honest living off of playing and competing, very sad to hear that the same didn't happen for you though. I hope to see you stomp in SC2, I'll be rooting for you! LevenT fighting! thanks for cheering for me, im flattered ~~ believe me when i say that i also hope for dota 2 getting big as a competetive game, else i wouldnt have put so much effort into dota and play it for 5 years(with hon 6 years). But i made my experience and thats why i have to give dota 2 only a very little chance.I just cant waste more time in my life. | ||
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