Going on "Leave" from University to play DotA 2 - Page 7

On December 11 2011 01:57 Kaiko wrote:
Basically with streaming services you're looking at SC2 vs LoL. LoL players use Ow3nd and have become a lot more familiar with their service. They're also rumored to pay more (unsure if this is true). Big named LoL players like HotshotGG can get 30k+ viewers and I've read somewhere (again not a trusted source or anything) you make roughly 3 dollars per 1k viewer per ad. The SC2 community loves Twitch.TV. They're always around the scene and engages with the community a lot. They have the love and support of the Starcraft 2 community.

On December 11 2011 04:14 Eschaton wrote:
There is a whole world of possibilities under the umbrella of Math and Science. I started out in Radiation Health Physics / Nuclear Engineering and switched to Biochemistry & Biophysics in my 2nd year because I found something that did the opposite of crush my soul, even though it took a lot of work. I think you'd be keeping a lot more doors open by staying in school than by trying for a DOTA career. My 2c.

On December 11 2011 04:41 BuLba wrote:
lol

anyways, people overrate how well individual players make up teams. you can have 5 decent players and do either really well or poorly. its all about teamwork. look at Navi when they first had their new roster of 5 all star players. they actually lost to PGG and his PUG squad at ASUS. (top dota lan in russia). why? because they had no sense of teamwork/roles/ what to do at the time.
trace the team to how they are now and even in their games vs MYM when they either played poorly or well.
if you want to be successful in dota, u have to be successful with a team
you can be the best player in the planet and still be a random player if you dont have a team of 4 good players that know what to do. so get rid of your attitude now because you act like you are entitled to some godlike level from reading some of your posts.
and to the topic at hand, stick to engineering. Dota is a game that doesnt need as much constant mechanical practice as say sc2. if you have the mechanics, all you need to work on is teamwork and decisions. there is a skillcap in dota. look at china, all the top players are reasonably near each other in skill. but the (players) that do well compared to the players that dont do well are the ones with better teams and synergy. look at Xiaolou(eg's standin), i would put him at the level of top carries like zhou. but he lacks experience. same with sylar. anyways im just rattling on now.


if you can't manage both , that just says something about you and your willpower.

On December 11 2011 06:53 Brood_Star wrote:
fuck it i'll make a post.

I'm at UofT engineering too and I'm some semi-pro DotA player on a team with the likes of MYM|PRIME|NATIONS|WINNER|USA|BuLba and OK|NIRVANA|AT|THE|INTERNATIONAL|UNiVeRsE.

I suggest you don't take leave. I don't know your reasons behind your decision, but it sounds rash and immature. You're in arguably the best program at a good university, so if you're doing as good as you say you are there should be no reason to drop it. Unless you're not or you don't find joy in what you're doing - the answer is not switch to DotA, but find something else. What else do you like doing besides "gaming and anime"? Most people enjoy those things, but enjoying it and having the dedication to go full-time and try and make a living off it are two very different things. What you want to do in life isn't just doing what makes you the happiest all the time.

Now with all the real-life shit out of the way, on to the DotA aspects.

I played you and eZ.Hunting in 1v1s a way long time ago, and I remember beating you. I remember playing you a couple times in TDAs and DCLs, and quite frankly you're what I lump into a category which basically consists of solo players who have the skill but not the mindset nor the insight to play on a team at a high level. You seem arrogant too. I can go on a list about my e-achievements and make them seem big and meaningful but at the end of the day they're not. I played with some well-known TF2 teams but in the end I'll never make it big in that. I played some street fighter with some of the best in America, but I'm still ultimately shit at that game. I'm decently skilled in a few other games, but that doesn't mean I'm destined to become pro.

In the same respects, getting high on the ladder might mean you're skilled, but it doesn't mean you'll make it at the top. I've been playing for a long ass time and with achievements better than yours (I wasn't playing competitive at the time of original IHL, TIHL or IHCS, but from every league since then I've mostly been there with quite a few top place finishes). I've still never broken into the very top of the DotA scene and there are still a lot of players better than me. Re-evaluate how you stand.

Now with that said, I'm not a divine being that makes your decisions for you. As I've outlined, your decision merely seems rash and immature and I'm trying to give you some perspective as to how being 'pro' really works. Anyone might indeed have the potential to become the next DeMoN if they go full-time. Who am I or anyone else to say otherwise? I think we'd all enjoy having someone like another day9 or tastosis in the esports community as evidenced by the support you're getting in this thread. I just think you need to think about it a bit more before you make that decision.

Toodles and tata~

On December 11 2011 05:42 fy12345 wrote:
good for you man. I'm an engsci student myself graduating next june. Was engsci worth it? Absolutely not! Play your heart out bro, but when u realli want to get a job after you finish, transfer to indy ffs.

On December 11 2011 06:53 Brood_Star wrote:
fuck it i'll make a post.

I'm at UofT engineering too and I'm some semi-pro DotA player on a team with the likes of MYM|PRIME|NATIONS|WINNER|USA|BuLba and OK|NIRVANA|AT|THE|INTERNATIONAL|UNiVeRsE.

I suggest you don't take leave. I don't know your reasons behind your decision, but it sounds rash and immature. You're in arguably the best program at a good university, so if you're doing as good as you say you are there should be no reason to drop it. Unless you're not or you don't find joy in what you're doing - the answer is not switch to DotA, but find something else. What else do you like doing besides "gaming and anime"? Most people enjoy those things, but enjoying it and having the dedication to go full-time and try and make a living off it are two very different things. What you want to do in life isn't just doing what makes you the happiest all the time.

Now with all the real-life shit out of the way, on to the DotA aspects.

I played you and eZ.Hunting in 1v1s a way long time ago, and I remember beating you. I remember playing you a couple times in TDAs and DCLs, and quite frankly you're what I lump into a category which basically consists of solo players who have the skill but not the mindset nor the insight to play on a team at a high level. You seem arrogant too. I can go on a list about my e-achievements and make them seem big and meaningful but at the end of the day they're not. I played with some well-known TF2 teams but in the end I'll never make it big in that. I played some street fighter with some of the best in America, but I'm still ultimately shit at that game. I'm decently skilled in a few other games, but that doesn't mean I'm destined to become pro.

In the same respects, getting high on the ladder might mean you're skilled, but it doesn't mean you'll make it at the top. I've been playing for a long ass time and with achievements better than yours (I wasn't playing competitive at the time of original IHL, TIHL or IHCS, but from every league since then I've mostly been there with quite a few top place finishes). I've still never broken into the very top of the DotA scene and there are still a lot of players better than me. Re-evaluate how you stand.

Now with that said, I'm not a divine being that makes your decisions for you. As I've outlined, your decision merely seems rash and immature and I'm trying to give you some perspective as to how being 'pro' really works. Anyone might indeed have the potential to become the next DeMoN if they go full-time. Who am I or anyone else to say otherwise? I think we'd all enjoy having someone like another day9 or tastosis in the esports community as evidenced by the support you're getting in this thread. I just think you need to think about it a bit more before you make that decision.

Toodles and tata~

On December 11 2011 04:55 daytrippers wrote:
Yooo eternalenvy!! Its Vikingar/kunjen. We played a fuckload in DCL, until you went to some dumb asian dragon rpg or something. gogo EE!

On December 11 2011 07:11 EternaLEnVy wrote:


But the door I truly want won't be opened.