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fearus
China2164 Posts
On August 25 2013 20:11 Yrr wrote: Does anyone want to explain what D3 vanilla is? Vanillas refers to the basic edition - so in this context when he says D3 vanillas - he is refering to the current D3. (non-expansion). edit **and to add my opinion to the discussion** I really do hope they make the expansion start with a fresh economy - i.e. vanilla gold cannot be used in expansion economy. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On August 25 2013 20:33 fearus wrote: Vanillas refers to the basic edition - so in this context when he says D3 vanillas - he is refering to the current D3. (non-expansion). edit **and to add my opinion to the discussion** I really do hope they make the expansion start with a fresh economy - i.e. vanilla gold cannot be used in expansion economy. Yeah, I think the economy really would need a restart. Maybe it is again the problem with people having paid RM that would get angry if their stuff don't carry through? They can "reset" the item part of the economy by adding new much more powerful items, making all the vanilla items a lot less valuable, but not really sure how they will make the gold useless, unless they plan to throw ridiculous inflation into the economy. Like making stacks of 100k gold or so... Maybe if you get huge amounts of gold from the new loot runs and nephalem runs? | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
On August 25 2013 20:33 fearus wrote: Vanillas refers to the basic edition - so in this context when he says D3 vanillas - he is refering to the current D3. (non-expansion). edit **and to add my opinion to the discussion** I really do hope they make the expansion start with a fresh economy - i.e. vanilla gold cannot be used in expansion economy. Don't think that would help, just as in d2 it would take a day till mass botters would possess 90% of the gold. Would only make them rich as they would get tons of money from casuals. An economy is bound to go blerg in games, unless it is p2p and there are so many money drains everyone wants to pay (one being pay the subscription with ingame currency), that you will never get any savings. Other then that you can hope that gold becomes worthless so other things become the real trade thing. Though the AH takes away the incentive to do something like that and motivates to stick with gold. Either way, hardcore gamers will always have an advantage and the money to outbuy casuals. Just as ebayers can outbuy hardcore gamers easily. Also the bot problem will always be there. | ||
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Big G
Italy835 Posts
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Ottoxlol
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strength
United States493 Posts
On August 25 2013 22:04 Big G wrote: I think they will implement ladder (and resets) to solve the economy issues. I mean, I have a 10 billion gear on my barb but I would hate to start the expansion with this lead over 95% of players, not to mention that it cheapens my very game experience. I feel that adding ladders is the only way to reset the economic problem at the moment. Plus, it keeps the game fresh with races to level 70 in the exp pack. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
Basically like D2, but nonladder has an AH. | ||
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
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Arkani
Austria60 Posts
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TyrantPotato
Australia1541 Posts
if people are just able to start from where they left off with their new characters with all their kitted out gear and what not, the single addition of one act will last as like what 3 hours game time? are they going down this route or are they planning on restricting old characters from the new expansion content? | ||
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
On August 26 2013 07:24 TyrantPotato wrote: im a little confused as to what would happen to pre existing characters (fore note i will never play this expansion after d3 this is just curiosity) if people are just able to start from where they left off with their new characters with all their kitted out gear and what not, the single addition of one act will last as like what 3 hours game time? are they going down this route or are they planning on restricting old characters from the new expansion content? That's the same way it was in D2 LOD. You just took your old characters into the new act. I don't see why they would change that. | ||
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On August 26 2013 07:25 Infernal_dream wrote: That's the same way it was in D2 LOD. You just took your old characters into the new act. I don't see why they would change that. for those who dont know: everyone who converted his lvl 9x classic char to lod in d2 was royally fucked once he found out that you can reach the 9x lvl range in lod about 10-50 times faster than in classic.  they gave up classic chars with several hundreds of hours invested into them to get lod chars that could have been made from scratch in 10-30 hours. | ||
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fearus
China2164 Posts
People would simply trade using 3rd party sites, unless you abolish trading altogether (i.e. self found only or make everything, even gold account bound but sorry Diablo game without trading isn't for me). Removing the AH and/or RMAH would change nothing. and its not like this question hasn't been asked before, its been mentioned time and time again but everyone just seem to ignore it and blame the AH for ruining the game?! | ||
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TyrantPotato
Australia1541 Posts
On August 26 2013 11:28 fearus wrote: I never really understood what people think they will achieve by removing the AH? People would simply trade using 3rd party sites, unless you abolish trading altogether (i.e. self found only or make everything, even gold account bound but sorry Diablo game without trading isn't for me). Removing the AH and/or RMAH would change nothing. and its not like this question hasn't been asked before, its been mentioned time and time again but everyone just seem to ignore it and blame the AH for ruining the game?! im sorry but your opinion in my opinion is the wrong opinion. the bolded part of your post sums it up, the AH replaced the entire concept of TRADING. you would create a game titled 'trading X come offer" and people would then join, you'd have a nice chat showing off the items. you would barter in person, come to deals, perhaps even share stories and make friends. the AH replaces this interaction with 'x item 200g buy yes|no' | ||
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Najda
United States3765 Posts
On August 26 2013 11:28 fearus wrote: I never really understood what people think they will achieve by removing the AH? People would simply trade using 3rd party sites, unless you abolish trading altogether (i.e. self found only or make everything, even gold account bound but sorry Diablo game without trading isn't for me). Removing the AH and/or RMAH would change nothing. and its not like this question hasn't been asked before, its been mentioned time and time again but everyone just seem to ignore it and blame the AH for ruining the game?! It would change a lot. A much larger percent of people would play selffound since 3rd party sites are so much less convinient, at least while leveling up and all gear becomes obsolete so quick. Also people wouldnt be putting the smaller upgrades online so except for the really good gear, most people will be usin self found or gear from friends. Even then when buying from other sites it promotes more of a community since it requires actual interaction. All that being said, I prefer AH to no AH since I don't want to go through all that trouble to find an item, esp when you can't even directly compare it to your own equipped items without using another 3rd party site. | ||
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
On August 26 2013 11:28 fearus wrote: I never really understood what people think they will achieve by removing the AH? People would simply trade using 3rd party sites, unless you abolish trading altogether (i.e. self found only or make everything, even gold account bound but sorry Diablo game without trading isn't for me). Removing the AH and/or RMAH would change nothing. and its not like this question hasn't been asked before, its been mentioned time and time again but everyone just seem to ignore it and blame the AH for ruining the game?! I dont see the auction house itself as a problem. It enables people to trade, a lot of whom wouldnt have really bothered with trading if they had to go through third party sites. But to keep the economy up, blizzard nerfed drop rates (a statement was made about this and then retracted), which led to an unsatisfactory feeling. There were people who went through till inferno without even seeing a legendary, and when it did arrive it was totally useless. This when clubbed with other issues (itemization, inferno,etc) made the community very angry. | ||
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IcED Bk
Canada245 Posts
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fearus
China2164 Posts
On August 26 2013 11:40 TyrantPotato wrote: im sorry but your opinion in my opinion is the wrong opinion. the bolded part of your post sums it up, the AH replaced the entire concept of TRADING. you would create a game titled 'trading X come offer" and people would then join, you'd have a nice chat showing off the items. you would barter in person, come to deals, perhaps even share stories and make friends. the AH replaces this interaction with 'x item 200g buy yes|no' The 'greifz 4 offers' games were a waste of time, 99% of the times. People would come to either low ball you - hoping you were a noob, come into your game to MF, come into your game to PK you, come into your game to self-xfer, come into your game to perm some mules, come into your game x9 times to offer you a bunch of useless items that they have stored on their mule then continue to R/D themselves. The only times when game trades worked was when people traded things of common value i.e. 2 puls 4 Um or if they were high-balling because they were impatient, i.e. HR 4 spirit. D2 trading happened on d2jsp and it was pretty clear that in-game trading was dead due to the trade channels being all but empty bar a few Shop Spam bots. | ||
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ffswowsucks
Greece2297 Posts
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woreyour
582 Posts
Probably add back necromancer so it will bring back players for 2 months and make the server lag  We really need 2 expansion chars, probably add the librarian or warlock. A longer act 5. Bring runes back. Make it level 99 as max level with no paragon shit. I know this will probably suck but I will still buy this. Please redeem yourselves D3 team. | ||
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