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On December 31 2012 05:03 Eschaton wrote:
The price of gold dropped from 0.30 USD to 0.25 USD (the minimum) since the PvP blog was posted. Looks like many are giving up hope on D3 and cashing out.
Yep, I immediately went and sold all the gold I had left. Luckily I moved it when it was still at 0.37. I still kept my gear, just in case there's something redeemable about this game in the future and I'd like to return, but I'm not holding out for it. It's really sad the way this game turned out from the expectations I had for it.
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I went and bought a ton of gold with all the blizzard bucks I had. It won't get any cheaper than this!
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Well ain't that just precious.
Market a game with team deathmatch, then semi-cancel team deathmatch, then blame the requirement for Blizzard to produce quality games. The irony is eating away at my dumb little brain.
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I can't wait to see a match opposing a WWbarb vs a CMwizard. It's going to be so much fun >.<...
I think what they are trying to do now is to slowly make us understand that balancing a PvP mode in Diablo 3 is near from impossible, so that when it comes finaly out, we won't be so disapointed if it's total trash.
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On December 31 2012 07:50 Djzapz wrote:
Well ain't that just precious.
Market a game with team deathmatch, then semi-cancel team deathmatch, then blame the requirement for Blizzard to produce quality games. The irony is eating away at my dumb little brain.
Blizzard decides what is fun, and you must like it god damn it :D
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Any chance the gold will go up again when pvp does come out? I really don't want to sell for .25 x.x
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On December 31 2012 08:41 KimJongChill wrote:
Any chance the gold will go up again when pvp does come out? I really don't want to sell for .25 x.x
I predict that it will go up to 30 cents when dueling comes out. There will be at least a few people spending hundreds of dollars to gear themselves.
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I knew I should of cashed out when i had the chance, instead I kept dumping gold into various avenues to gear up so i could sell stuff in the RMAH...but I noticed a week or so ago that pretty much the only things moving are godly items and items that flippers think they can sell for more. Its a shame that the mid tier player is pretty much gone now and items that would be considered decent just gather dust in my inventory.
Course I noticed this especially with WD gear, unless its the best of the best it won't move. Dex/Strength MF/GF gear moves....slowly but it moves at least. I can not for the life of me sell any int based gear at all =\.
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On December 30 2012 10:34 Medrea wrote:I can only imagine Blizzard pulled like almost the entire team away from the game to do other things.
On December 30 2012 16:08 Medrea wrote:
I can imagine the original projections were from before Blizzard pulled staff off of the project. Putting money and manpower into D3 is not a smart thing to do. Its better to give up on it and write it off as a dead franchise and make something new.
I like how your speculation turned into fact one post later.
I know we're all upset and wondering how they screwed this up (by their own admission this is a disaster), but let's try not to spread rumors.
Which really is what Jay Wilson should have done. Instead of hyping up the PvP blog he should have kept his mouth shut or maybe, just maybe said 'bad news about pvp, duels in, team deathmatch out, blog to explain why and where we go from here.'
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On December 31 2012 09:06 FromShouri wrote:
I knew I should of cashed out when i had the chance, instead I kept dumping gold into various avenues to gear up so i could sell stuff in the RMAH...but I noticed a week or so ago that pretty much the only things moving are godly items and items that flippers think they can sell for more. Its a shame that the mid tier player is pretty much gone now and items that would be considered decent just gather dust in my inventory.
Course I noticed this especially with WD gear, unless its the best of the best it won't move. Dex/Strength MF/GF gear moves....slowly but it moves at least. I can not for the life of me sell any int based gear at all =\.
I cash out the instant I find/bid/win anything remotely valuable. Do I use Radiant Gems? Nope, Star gems all the way!
Just get enough balance to get SC2 expansion and then paypal the rest, and when I can't stand to log in anymore, don't feel any remorse on not cashing out earlier.
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On December 31 2012 10:15 Burrfoot wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2012 09:06 FromShouri wrote:
I knew I should of cashed out when i had the chance, instead I kept dumping gold into various avenues to gear up so i could sell stuff in the RMAH...but I noticed a week or so ago that pretty much the only things moving are godly items and items that flippers think they can sell for more. Its a shame that the mid tier player is pretty much gone now and items that would be considered decent just gather dust in my inventory.
Course I noticed this especially with WD gear, unless its the best of the best it won't move. Dex/Strength MF/GF gear moves....slowly but it moves at least. I can not for the life of me sell any int based gear at all =\. I cash out the instant I find/bid/win anything remotely valuable. Do I use Radiant Gems? Nope, Star gems all the way! Just get enough balance to get SC2 expansion and then paypal the rest, and when I can't stand to log in anymore, don't feel any remorse on not cashing out earlier.
This philosophy makes sense past a certain critical mass of capital, I'd say around a few 100m to allow mid-level GAH shenanigans and farming. If I have 300m value of gear + gold, I don't see much added benefit from having 500m. But the difference between 100m and 300m can change the availability of opportunities, so the 200m difference is worth more in that case.
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The more I think about this, the more I feel like I was stolen from. I was told "hey look pvp stuff" it was posted in videos, at conventions, blizzcons, everyplace. It was supposed to be a feature. It was hyped as a thing. Then it was held back, I said okay no big deal I am nothing if not a patient man. I waited.
And to get this? This, this is bullshit. It's a complete lack of care for a game. I am done with them. I am sure they had reasoning behind it but I don't care. I am not going to try and look at the upside, I am just completely disturbingly done with this. I've been essentially bamboozled by them and the deceit is outstanding.
Props to Jay Wilson for the bravado to say this, but I am sorry this path is just folly. I've no idea why they are doing something like this but I can only hope that someday they eventually correct themselves.
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Great, final nail to D3's coffin. Now we have a better term than "epic fail" in computer gaming literature, which is simply "D3".
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On December 31 2012 18:09 Silahsor wrote:
Great, final nail to D3's coffin. Now we have a better term than "epic fail" in computer gaming literature, which is simply "D3".
How many times and how long have people been saying "oh this is it" "this is the final nail" and yet the game keeps living on. Not to mention they're going to release an expo, then what? It's still D3. I'm not a huge fan of the game either but it's far from being an "epic fail". There's a lot worse games out there.
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I honestly wouldn't have bought the game if I didn't assume that PvP was coming soon, not Blizzard soon but actually soon. I swear it's been like two or three years since they showed PvP footage.
Luckily I couldn't care less anymore or otherwise I'd feel like I got scammed by Blizzard.
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On December 31 2012 09:17 Wuster wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2012 10:34 Medrea wrote:I can only imagine Blizzard pulled like almost the entire team away from the game to do other things. Show nested quote +On December 30 2012 16:08 Medrea wrote:
I can imagine the original projections were from before Blizzard pulled staff off of the project. Putting money and manpower into D3 is not a smart thing to do. Its better to give up on it and write it off as a dead franchise and make something new. I like how your speculation turned into fact one post later. I know we're all upset and wondering how they screwed this up (by their own admission this is a disaster), but let's try not to spread rumors. Which really is what Jay Wilson should have done. Instead of hyping up the PvP blog he should have kept his mouth shut or maybe, just maybe said 'bad news about pvp, duels in, team deathmatch out, blog to explain why and where we go from here.'
You got stuck on the first sentence of the second post. The rest of the post implies a continuation of the thought instantiated in the first post.
Its not rumor mongering. Its critical thinking.
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So, who want to bet that proper PvP will be part of an expansion? They did the same with HotS..
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On December 31 2012 13:51 Eschaton wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2012 10:15 Burrfoot wrote:On December 31 2012 09:06 FromShouri wrote:
I knew I should of cashed out when i had the chance, instead I kept dumping gold into various avenues to gear up so i could sell stuff in the RMAH...but I noticed a week or so ago that pretty much the only things moving are godly items and items that flippers think they can sell for more. Its a shame that the mid tier player is pretty much gone now and items that would be considered decent just gather dust in my inventory.
Course I noticed this especially with WD gear, unless its the best of the best it won't move. Dex/Strength MF/GF gear moves....slowly but it moves at least. I can not for the life of me sell any int based gear at all =\. I cash out the instant I find/bid/win anything remotely valuable. Do I use Radiant Gems? Nope, Star gems all the way! Just get enough balance to get SC2 expansion and then paypal the rest, and when I can't stand to log in anymore, don't feel any remorse on not cashing out earlier. This philosophy makes sense past a certain critical mass of capital, I'd say around a few 100m to allow mid-level GAH shenanigans and farming. If I have 300m value of gear + gold, I don't see much added benefit from having 500m. But the difference between 100m and 300m can change the availability of opportunities, so the 200m difference is worth more in that case.
True, I stopped even occasionally trying to flip the Gold-AH market due to the sheer volume of crap that could be flipped for various levels of profit. I only check the RMAH for a few items when I get bored to flip with balance as any balance can be spent on future Blizz games and the RMAH market is less active and easier to spot the under-valued listings. A mere $50 in balance is equivalent to 200m these days anyways.
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On December 31 2012 18:37 Infernal_dream wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2012 18:09 Silahsor wrote:
Great, final nail to D3's coffin. Now we have a better term than "epic fail" in computer gaming literature, which is simply "D3". How many times and how long have people been saying "oh this is it" "this is the final nail" and yet the game keeps living on. Not to mention they're going to release an expo, then what? It's still D3. I'm not a huge fan of the game either but it's far from being an "epic fail". There's a lot worse games out there.
There are a lot of other worse games out there, but not many which had as much hype around it and as big of a reputation as Diablo (at least none that I can think of). With all the development that's gone into D3, I would certainly say its an "epic fail" Regardless of whether this is the final nail in the coffin or not, its obvious that the player base is only getting smaller and smaller. Everyone I know who got the game were disappointed and stopped playing early on, and I only recently came back to see what changes there have been. From what I can gather, a good portion of the remaining people were players hoping for PvP to come in soon, but with this blog post I'm willing to bet a lot of them have given up now too.
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Who cares if these features are balanced perfecty, D2 was fun because you could level up your character and get all the best gear and then go fight, or you and your friends could level up to level 9 and then duel each other with only what you found. I havn't really played much since release because i wasnt having that much fun, but I've been thinking of giving it another go, hopefully pvp is released soon. And again as far as balance goes, was creating a public game on hardcore and forgetting to set a level difference balanced when a sorc joined and teled and killed you before you even saw her?
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