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Okay this is my view on it after reading the entire thread:
comparison to gold drops as they are now;
- Vases, pots, chests etc drop 20% of max gold what it drops now
- Vases, pots, chests etc have a 50% less chance to trigger a drop
- Vases, pots, chests etc have an additional 5% chance of dropping Blues
- Vases, pots, chests etc have an additional 1% chance of dropping Rares
- Vases, pots, chests etc have an additional 0.05% chance of dropping Legendaries and Sets
- Trash mobs drop 250% gold
- Champion mobs drop 500% gold
- elite mobs drop 750% gold
- Bosses drop 1000% gold
See, now vase botters only get 10% of the gold they get now, legit players are rewarded for killing mobs, champs, elites and bosses with higher Gold Drops. It'll even out.
Legit players find more blues rares and legendaries, all which are useless to manage for botters and they will be left there.
Then they need some more gold sinks to flat out make gold worth more and thus reward players for actually playing the game. Repair costs are getting higher already so that's good. Also make crafting/jeweling twice as expensive?
Now you'll find botters at the short end of the stick.
Please tell me what you think.
*edited for spelling and minor tweaks*
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Le Sigh, stupid hacker/botters. I hope the price goes down to 1$ a million gold. Cheating your way to make real money.
Whos the first person thats going to go to jail for the Diablo 3 RMAH?
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No one because it will never happen
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Haven't bought diablo 3 yet, but currently debating between buying Guildwars 2 and playing that and pirating Diablo 3. If Blizzard ever return to their old ways I will buy it, until then, I rather suffer the emulated D3 server than playing legit. Also will buy Torchlight 2. The game looks legit too and the price is reasonable.
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pre-2005 blizzard doesn't exist anymore and never will again
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On June 08 2012 11:57 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
Haven't bought diablo 3 yet, but currently debating between buying Guildwars 2 and playing that and pirating Diablo 3. If Blizzard ever return to their old ways I will buy it, until then, I rather suffer the emulated D3 server than playing legit. Also will buy Torchlight 2. The game looks legit too and the price is reasonable.
imo Diablo 3 is a fun game to play but the way it is now, it definitely does not have the longevity of Diablo 2
I think Blizzard can improve Diablo 3 and fix some glaring gameplay flaws over time but that will take a while
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idk why they ever thought RMAH would work hahaaha. soon gold will be literally worthless, and inflation will literally destroy everything. (there will be lots of gold, LOTS of gold on the market, and the playerbase is only DECREASING)
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On June 08 2012 11:57 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
Haven't bought diablo 3 yet, but currently debating between buying Guildwars 2 and playing that and pirating Diablo 3. If Blizzard ever return to their old ways I will buy it, until then, I rather suffer the emulated D3 server than playing legit. Also will buy Torchlight 2. The game looks legit too and the price is reasonable.
seriously, nobody gives a shit about what you do.
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On June 08 2012 12:59 mikell wrote:
idk why they ever thought RMAH would work hahaaha. soon gold will be literally worthless, and inflation will literally destroy everything. (there will be lots of gold, LOTS of gold on the market, and the playerbase is only DECREASING)
I hope you know you're seriously undersizing how many people are playing and enjoying the game. Even if all you do is read the garbage on bnet forums that's barely touching the surface of how many people play the game. Most people don't even visit forums, and of those who do most only make posts to complain about something.
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gold is insane. prices have gone up (for items) 5-10x as much in the past week...its crazy
On June 08 2012 07:26 K-Na wrote:
thank god for the summary. the guy interviewing wasn't very good. "uhms" and "ahs" everywhere and he'd take like 5 minutes to ask a damn question.
i like marcus, he is pretty damn rich and has ran markeedragon (#1 WoW account trading/selling site ever created) for years until he gave it up (the trading/selling forums).
i thought the interview was fine
edit: now about half-way through, that farmer guy is right. i wonder how they are going to actually ban these accounts that are on 24hrs/day, because they KNOW they are farmers, and once the RMAH comes out? they're going to make a cut from every single deal that accounts makes...
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The solution is easy ... they wear gold gear = almost no life make the stuff explode and pop minions, everytime a legendary drops make it get a shield and a elite pops. I wanna see them running scripts in killing those elites 
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I've seen the spamming bot on the trade channel got an error, and it was typed in chinese words. It was hilarious and pathetic lol. I knew there're mostly Chinese tho.
Blizz needs to do something about this man. They're ruining the game.
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Is this the primary reason why the AH prices of items are going up significantly?
Shouldn't it be decreasing since technically more people have the items available, or more people have been farming for better items, thus overflowing the items?
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On June 08 2012 11:57 NotSorry wrote:
pre-2005 blizzard doesn't exist anymore and never will again
My time machine begs to differ!
Pre-2005 Adwodon doesn't exist any more either, I'd say it was a good thing, time moving forward and all that, things would be a bit weird otherwise.
More on topic though...
It's pretty daft that this has happened, however I'm not surprised it has, what I am surprised with is how its continuing. I hope that Blizzard does patch the farming spots pronto. So far duping has just been rumours, and I think beyond the odd AH lag glitch its not going to happen in any reliable sense which helps, which means that yes, gold is being over farmed by a small percentage of the population right now. However with appropriate action from Blizzard it can be appropriately curved.
What I genuinely don't understand though is the current pricing of gold selling, surely the people buying 1 million for $10-20 are not level 60 and inferno? Unless they are willing to throw $100+ away just to gear up for the next act...
Personally wouldn't ever consider buying gold on the RMAH if it was more than $1-2 / million. I guess the game is new though so the econ is a mess.
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On June 08 2012 20:56 trinxified wrote:
Is this the primary reason why the AH prices of items are going up significantly?
Shouldn't it be decreasing since technically more people have the items available, or more people have been farming for better items, thus overflowing the items?
Why would it decrease? Bots farming for items would make items drop in value, but that's not what's happening. Bots farming for gold makes gold drop in value, and items stay the same, so their price in gold increases. It's like printing money.
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+ Show Spoiler +On June 08 2012 11:40 frontliner2 wrote:
Okay this is my view on it after reading the entire thread:
comparison to gold drops as they are now;
- Vases, pots, chests etc drop 20% of max gold what it drops now
- Vases, pots, chests etc have a 50% less chance to trigger a drop
- Vases, pots, chests etc have an additional 5% chance of dropping Blues
- Vases, pots, chests etc have an additional 1% chance of dropping Rares
- Vases, pots, chests etc have an additional 0.05% chance of dropping Legendaries and Sets
- Trash mobs drop 250% gold
- Champion mobs drop 500% gold
- elite mobs drop 750% gold
- Bosses drop 1000% gold
See, now vase botters only get 10% of the gold they get now, legit players are rewarded for killing mobs, champs, elites and bosses with higher Gold Drops. It'll even out.
Legit players find more blues rares and legendaries, all which are useless to manage for botters and they will be left there.
Then they need some more gold sinks to flat out make gold worth more and thus reward players for actually playing the game. Repair costs are getting higher already so that's good. Also make crafting/jeweling twice as expensive?
Now you'll find botters at the short end of the stick.
Please tell me what you think.
*edited for spelling and minor tweaks*
Blizzard could start by changing that "+% extra gold gained form monsters" affects only mobs, like it says, and not breakable items.
For gold sink part. They should first make crafting worthy to do in the first place. But I dont really know if gold farmers will be doing that much money anyway once RMAH comes. Most if not all the best stuff is going to be sold in RMAH, and with lack of moneysinks in the game, what are you gonna do with gold?
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Is this really such a huge problem? With inflation, if you find a good item you will be able to sell it for a very high cost, therefore the AH is still functional.
Or am I saying something very stupid? :D
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Maybe increase the limit of acutions per account so people who are more interesting in making money wouldnt bot and instead use the AH. In WoW you could farm the shitout of AH and sell the gold to chinese and get goods that you sell for real money.
Well I dunno if it would help proportually very much.
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On June 08 2012 21:36 Gnarg wrote:
Is this really such a huge problem? With inflation, if you find a good item you will be able to sell it for a very high cost, therefore the AH is still functional.
Or am I saying something very stupid? :D
The definition of Inflation: The rate at which the general level of prices for goods and services is rising, and, subsequently, purchasing power is falling.
What this means within Diablo, is that the gold you get from the game itself will eventually become virtually useless - the only way you will be able to make enough gold to buy other items, is to sell your own items, virtually making the AH the only way players can have any purchasing power. And in order to have purchasing power, players are going to overprice their items on the AH - only leading to even more inflation.
D3 is having HUGE inflation right now. Last week, I bought my barb a full set of nice gear for ~750k on average per piece. These same pieces are now going for 3m+.
On June 08 2012 21:42 Ryndika wrote:
Maybe increase the limit of acutions per account so people who are more interesting in making money wouldnt bot and instead use the AH. In WoW you could farm the shitout of AH and sell the gold to chinese and get goods that you sell for real money.
Well I dunno if it would help proportually very much.
This would only increase inflation, actually.
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D3 is having HUGE inflation right now. Last week, I bought my barb a full set of nice gear for ~750k on average per piece. These same pieces are now going for 3m+.
Are you sure about that ? Or is it that more people realize you need all resist gear ? The prices for weapons seem to fall. A few days ago I could still sell like 800dps 1 hander.
But I agree with your post. If this vases thing continues, Gold will have the same value as in D2. New currency will be hard cash in the rmah or maybe other things people always need like gems.
I dont get it. They know about the vases and do nothing about it.
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