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Jesus Christ do not put captcha into the game, what would that help anyways? Game asks for captcha? Well have someone manually enter it. Done. Yeh it gets a bit more annoying and the heavy botters would require some more "employees" but it's something that will annoy millions of people, not just these botters. So that's something that's never ever going to happen.
In the end little can be done against bots, a certain percentages can be banned but that only slows them down a bit. A drop on a hot stone probably.
Blizzard also can't make the game impossible to farm for bots, that's just not possible. Especially not without hurting real players.
You take away vases and stuff due to gold farming? Well let's have a bot with Inferno gear just run through this nightmare/hell area and pick up the money.
So how do you stop that?
In the end you get a long chain of cat and mice were the legitimate players end up suffers, as the game is completely designed about preventing bots instead of being a good game.
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Maybe disallow the transfer of gold when you open the trade box? Means you can no longer do deals outside the auction house. So then botters would be stuck with useless gold that they can't get out of their accounts. They also won't be able to consolidate the money from all 100 accounts either.
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Sure they would, the central account will just put up crap for millions of hold and the bottling accounts will buy it out.
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I'm a happy customer since I refunded, xP.
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On June 08 2012 07:53 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Jesus Christ do not put captcha into the game, what would that help anyways? Game asks for captcha? Well have someone manually enter it. Done. Yeh it gets a bit more annoying and the heavy botters would require some more "employees" but it's something that will annoy millions of people, not just these botters. So that's something that's never ever going to happen.
That doesn't make the least bit of sense. Captcha, even 20% of time, would be a major obstacle given the level of automation of these multiaccount farm bots.
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On June 08 2012 08:18 KingOfAmerica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 07:53 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Jesus Christ do not put captcha into the game, what would that help anyways? Game asks for captcha? Well have someone manually enter it. Done. Yeh it gets a bit more annoying and the heavy botters would require some more "employees" but it's something that will annoy millions of people, not just these botters. So that's something that's never ever going to happen.
That doesn't make the least bit of sense. Captcha, even 20% of time, would be a major obstacle given the level of automation of these multiaccount farm bots.
Maybe if you had over a hundred, but most of these farmers probably have like 20. For 20 accounts that's not such a huge deal.
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Let's say it takes one person 10 sec to move over to a machine and beat a captcha. If each run takes 1 min, a single botter could support only 7 instances running in perfect harmony assuming there is a captcha per game.
Not only that, answering captchas for hours on end is mind-numbingly intolerable, so even if people still bot, I'll take pleasure in their sheer amount of effort they put in.
And finally, it'd almost wholly stop all 'casual' botters who leave scripts running when they go to school/work, and come home a few mil richer.
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But then you piss off a million other people who have nothing to do with the captcha being implemented who get angry at blizzard for not being able to stop the botters without affecting them. It'd be a completely stupid decision by blizzard to implement anything like that. The amount of people who would be angry about it far outnumber those who are affected by botters, or at least directly affected. I for one would be annoyed by it as well. So like what happens? A random popup when you're fighting an elite only to die?
I'd also go as far to say that the botters isn't even the primary reason for the failure of the economy. There's multiple flaws that I've found, and although botters are a part of it, they aren't the main reason at all.
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thats exactly why i hate people start farming gold in a diablo game. Diablo is about farming gears. RM/AH is such a double edge.
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As long as there are players dumb enough to pay real money for video game gold/items/xp, exploiters like this will continue to exist and ruin games.
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I'm in favor of a captcha every time you create a game. (Very) slight annoyance for legitimate players - is 10 sec every half hour+ really going to annoy you that much? And gives my gold significantly more buying power. As in there is no way I'd earn more buying power in those 10 sec every 30 min I answer a captcha.
Edit: think of it this way - if, every time you created a game, a captcha popped up and by answering it correctly, you are gifted with 100,000 gold. Would you not want that?
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This was quite possibly the worst interview I've ever seen.
The topic is interesting though. Some people are going to get frickin rich off the RMAH.
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Pretty standard, same shit used in pretty much every game on the market
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On June 08 2012 08:39 J_Slim wrote:
As long as there are players dumb enough to pay real money for video game gold/items/xp, exploiters like this will continue to exist and ruin games.
Can't really blame them for being opportunists and using their skills, as long as they do it legally, right? Obviously if they're hacking, that's another problem entirely.
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blizzard should just put a cap on how much gold you can get per day/week/month. that will do something to curb these bots. i am sure that 99% of the people playing are below a certain amount (maybe a million a day) and the rest are bots. i see the markets getting flooded with gold and then AH just being stupid for people who dont want to shell out money.
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1mil a day is way to low, you can legit vase farm for 600-700k an hour
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On June 08 2012 08:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 08:39 J_Slim wrote:
As long as there are players dumb enough to pay real money for video game gold/items/xp, exploiters like this will continue to exist and ruin games. Can't really blame them for being opportunists and using their skills, as long as they do it legally, right? Obviously if they're hacking, that's another problem entirely.
Eh. Not surprised that people take advantage of opportunities, but can still blame them and call them game ruiners.
Besides the mass-hacking and bot-accounts purchased with stolen credit cards, I'm pretty sure they also break the game's user agreements.
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On June 08 2012 08:40 Phael wrote:
I'm in favor of a captcha every time you create a game. (Very) slight annoyance for legitimate players - is 10 sec every half hour+ really going to annoy you that much? And gives my gold significantly more buying power. As in there is no way I'd earn more buying power in those 10 sec every 30 min I answer a captcha.
Edit: think of it this way - if, every time you created a game, a captcha popped up and by answering it correctly, you are gifted with 100,000 gold. Would you not want that?
your last point is incredibly unfeasible...what is stopping people from just mass creating games and getting 100K every time? it's going to inflate prices to unimaginable levels
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On June 08 2012 08:47 NotSorry wrote:
1mil a day is way to low, you can legit vase farm for 600-700k an hour
i read in the other thread that this was limited recently. not sure that was true though. regardless, breaking vases for an hour is stupid.
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I blame blizz for making it so easy, the best farm spots in the game require no killing of any type, just 10-30sec runs of chests/vases.
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