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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 26 2012 07:30 GMT
#541
Are there any other recommendations of economical uniques that the starting Inferno Barb should look out for deals on?

@crms: what are your ring and helm? Bul-Kathos and Giant Skull?
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
May 26 2012 08:44 GMT
#542
On May 26 2012 16:30 TheYango wrote:
Are there any other recommendations of economical uniques that the starting Inferno Barb should look out for deals on?

@crms: what are your ring and helm? Bul-Kathos and Giant Skull?



yeah giant skull and bul-kathos. I found both. I only use them when I go for a hybrid style of tank/dps, since truthfully they aren't that great.

I just did 3+ hours of ACT4 farming (couple minor upgrades and 3.5M from selling crap) and then went to solo belial to see if I could with a new build/setup, was a success!

I'm running right now with this build..

14k DPS (maniac not included so 20% more when maniac is up)
9696 Armor
500-700 resist All
21.28% melee reduction
440 life per hit (i need more )
Crit Chance 23% (using ruthless over superstition passive for these runs as magic damage isn't an issue)
38k HP - really low considering my standard tank setup was like 60k, I don't miss the extra vitality though tbh. I kill things so much faster so long as I can absorb a few hits and revenge or just tank enough to nuke the boss down, i find it much more conveinent.

I bought my belt (string of ears) and amulet (kymbos) but I've found the remaining gear/had friends supply me. I'm not geared to the teeth like a lot of the solo streamers (kripp etc) so I think its definetly possible for barbs who make smart gear choices and have a little cash to spend (string of ears NOW, right NOW) to get far. Don' t be scared to try new stuff, dying is pretty irrelevent in this game. Also if you don't know the trick to make ACT4 inferno games without clearing it send me a PM or I can write out a description in this thread if many don't know how. It really, really doesn't seem to take a lot to nuke down the ghost bosses. I like to do leah + the one right after her. With Earthquake and Wrath so long as you can live for about 7-8 seconds, you'll down the boss and start getting 2+ ACT4 tier blues (with luck legendaries/rares) each boss. Also, the second boss you can switch to full MF and let tyrael finish off, they are very weak.

happy hunting barbs :D
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Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-26 09:31:24
May 26 2012 09:23 GMT
#543
Jesus crms, you lucky bastard to have two legendary drops that you can use. I am struggling to get to 400 all rest while keep my HP and DPS up. SK run is just bad bad bad .
Once I get that Kymbo and String of ears I will much better though T_T.
EDIT: Just got a Kymbo with stats
+125 str
+57 vit
+33 dex
+26 poison rest
+8 life
+239 on hit
+2.9% knock back chance

this for 500K. You guys think I get a good deal?
Terran
Sindriss
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark263 Posts
May 26 2012 09:49 GMT
#544
On May 26 2012 14:43 Caphe wrote:
@ Sindriss: you have more than enough to kill SK and Butcher. If you have problem with most rare/elite than you are doing something wrong.
I suggest change Leap + stun to Leap+ Iron Impact this will boost your Armor by a large margin with low cd.
You need more DPS skill, ditch one of the shout keep Warcry only. If you have only one slot you can spare for a 2 min cd, get WoTB since WoTB has very high DPS potential as well as crowd control immunity.

@all other with with some sick Barb gear: You guys are so fucking rich while I am poor as dirt . Was thinking of getting a Kymbo since there were 2 less than 700K but now they are gone .
I got a Puzzle ring yesterday for 50K though. Didn't even notice its only lv44, lol


Yeah, I was figuring that something is wrong. But on the other hand, I usually have between 600-1000 ms, which makes it very deadly to play with elites/champs.

I will try to change leap. Regarding the shout, my secondary shout is the +30% dps - I dont see what I could change this with in order to get more dps.

I use pound of flesh btw, should I change that into superstition or something?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-26 10:16:43
May 26 2012 10:14 GMT
#545
On May 26 2012 18:23 Caphe wrote:
Jesus crms, you lucky bastard to have two legendary drops that you can use. I am struggling to get to 400 all rest while keep my HP and DPS up. SK run is just bad bad bad .
Once I get that Kymbo and String of ears I will much better though T_T.
EDIT: Just got a Kymbo with stats
+125 str
+57 vit
+33 dex
+26 poison rest
+8 life
+239 on hit
+2.9% knock back chance

this for 500K. You guys think I get a good deal?

Above average Strength, average life-on-hit, higher of the 2 possible % life values. Of the 3 random properties, Vit is decent (and rolled somewhat average), but the other 2 are underwhelming.

Were it me I would have spent a bit longer waiting for something or looking in a higher price range, but for 500k you could do a lot worse.

When scoping out uniques, I'd recommend looking up their possible stat ranges on the game guide, so you see what you can possibly get.

EDIT: I just remembered Kymbo's is supposed to have 2 random properties. How the hell did yours roll 3?
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Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
May 26 2012 10:48 GMT
#546
@ Yango: thanks for input, I am quite happy with it since its a massive upgrade to what I had previously. Also the Blizzard item page is useful as well(didn;t know about it till now )
Here a screenshot in case I miss type something
[image loading]
Terran
Genovi
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden388 Posts
May 26 2012 11:55 GMT
#547
So i am playing a barb on hc. Lvl 35 atm in act 1nm. Since i really dont want to die i am focusing a lot on defensive play and letting my wiz mate do the dmg. Though i feel i do okayish it seems like im sortof undergeared. Mainly because i dont have much cash at all. Right now i have:
400dmg
4.7k HP
1.8k Armour (56%)

Skills:
Leap (iron impact)
Ground stomp (wrenching)
Revenge (first rune)
Ignore pain (longer duration)
Cleave (rupture)
Hota (smash)

Passives:
Nerves of steel
Superstition
Tough as nails

Im mostlt unsure about cleave. Using it atm to clear thrash so we can dps the champ/elites safely. And it feels weird relying on revenge for healing since it is really random. Does anyone have tips for hc builds and what i need to focus on?
We fucking lost team - RTZ
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
May 26 2012 12:13 GMT
#548
On May 26 2012 18:49 Sindriss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2012 14:43 Caphe wrote:
@ Sindriss: you have more than enough to kill SK and Butcher. If you have problem with most rare/elite than you are doing something wrong.
I suggest change Leap + stun to Leap+ Iron Impact this will boost your Armor by a large margin with low cd.
You need more DPS skill, ditch one of the shout keep Warcry only. If you have only one slot you can spare for a 2 min cd, get WoTB since WoTB has very high DPS potential as well as crowd control immunity.

@all other with with some sick Barb gear: You guys are so fucking rich while I am poor as dirt . Was thinking of getting a Kymbo since there were 2 less than 700K but now they are gone .
I got a Puzzle ring yesterday for 50K though. Didn't even notice its only lv44, lol


Yeah, I was figuring that something is wrong. But on the other hand, I usually have between 600-1000 ms, which makes it very deadly to play with elites/champs.

I will try to change leap. Regarding the shout, my secondary shout is the +30% dps - I dont see what I could change this with in order to get more dps.

I use pound of flesh btw, should I change that into superstition or something?

I'd say you change superstition for a offensive passive since your resists are really high already. Also, 600ms is just bad for fighting elite/rare. Why you are in EU and get such bad ping?
Terran
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-26 13:20:30
May 26 2012 13:17 GMT
#549
Good things come to those who wait:
[image loading]

Mediocre random properties, and unfortunately low vit roll, but good resist all. Definite upgrade from what I had before.
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Fuzzyhead
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany55 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-26 14:14:37
May 26 2012 14:06 GMT
#550
is max. life per hit capped at 549 or does the maximum amount scale with something else?


NVM : i am an idiot, got 1000 hp per hit now and it really helps alot in inferno act 2
Sindriss
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark263 Posts
May 26 2012 14:50 GMT
#551
On May 26 2012 21:13 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2012 18:49 Sindriss wrote:
On May 26 2012 14:43 Caphe wrote:
@ Sindriss: you have more than enough to kill SK and Butcher. If you have problem with most rare/elite than you are doing something wrong.
I suggest change Leap + stun to Leap+ Iron Impact this will boost your Armor by a large margin with low cd.
You need more DPS skill, ditch one of the shout keep Warcry only. If you have only one slot you can spare for a 2 min cd, get WoTB since WoTB has very high DPS potential as well as crowd control immunity.

@all other with with some sick Barb gear: You guys are so fucking rich while I am poor as dirt . Was thinking of getting a Kymbo since there were 2 less than 700K but now they are gone .
I got a Puzzle ring yesterday for 50K though. Didn't even notice its only lv44, lol


Yeah, I was figuring that something is wrong. But on the other hand, I usually have between 600-1000 ms, which makes it very deadly to play with elites/champs.

I will try to change leap. Regarding the shout, my secondary shout is the +30% dps - I dont see what I could change this with in order to get more dps.

I use pound of flesh btw, should I change that into superstition or something?

I'd say you change superstition for a offensive passive since your resists are really high already. Also, 600ms is just bad for fighting elite/rare. Why you are in EU and get such bad ping?


Okay, Ill try that out.

Ye, I am currently residing in China, but wanted to play with my friends. Also, I am going back later in the year, so didnt want to spend time playing on Asian server, and then lose it all when I left.

Too bad that d2jsp isnt very active in Asia, otherwise I could play in Asia and accumulate value by selling it through d2jsp.
Coolness53
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
May 26 2012 15:58 GMT
#552
On May 26 2012 19:48 Caphe wrote:
@ Yango: thanks for input, I am quite happy with it since its a massive upgrade to what I had previously. Also the Blizzard item page is useful as well(didn;t know about it till now )
Here a screenshot in case I miss type something
[image loading]


Mara's vs Kymbo's which one would be better to use?
Fruitdealer, DongRaeGu, and Soulkey
Recoil
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States276 Posts
May 26 2012 16:07 GMT
#553
What do you guys think of my current build Im only level 23 atm:

LClick Cleave + Reaping Swing
RClick Whirlwind
1 Leap Iron Impact
2 Revenge Vengeance is Mine
3 Threatening Shout
4 Earthquake

Pound of Flesh
Inspiring Presence

I find the build pretty good at leaping groups and killing massive amounts of enemies. Are there a better skills I could use to accomplish this? Is there a skill I will unlock that will improve this build?
Coolness53
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
May 26 2012 16:09 GMT
#554
On May 27 2012 01:07 Recoil wrote:
What do you guys think of my current build Im only level 23 atm:

LClick Cleave + Reaping Swing
RClick Whirlwind
1 Leap Iron Impact
2 Revenge Vengeance is Mine
3 Threatening Shout
4 Earthquake

Pound of Flesh
Inspiring Presence

I find the build pretty good at leaping groups and killing massive amounts of enemies. Are there a better skills I could use to accomplish this? Is there a skill I will unlock that will improve this build?


Can use almost any skill and be ok at the level your at but I found cleave with the exploding rune to be really useful.
Fruitdealer, DongRaeGu, and Soulkey
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
May 26 2012 16:13 GMT
#555
@ Recoil : First if you didn't know already. Turn on Elective mode in your Option.
You are only level 23 so these skills are about it. My advice would be, you try out new skill at least once when you get them. There is no exactly build at any level so just go with what you like and feel comfortable.
Happy hunting!

@Coolness53: It depends on the roll of the item. To roll exact Str and Vit on Mara is quite difficult, also depend on your build.
Terran
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-26 16:24:47
May 26 2012 16:18 GMT
#556
The other thing to consider is that Kymbo's is likely to be a lot more economical than Mara's. A perfect Mara's might be better than a perfect Kymbo's, but given all the relevant factors (Mara's being higher ilvl, higher value stats, more well-known high-profile item, desirable item for all classes and not just Barbarian), I'd expect Kymbo's to be an order of magnitude cheaper than Mara's to obtain.

You can get reasonably rolled Kymbo's in the 500k to 1mil price range, as seen on the last few pages. Good luck even getting the shittiest possible Mara's for that kind of price. At the time of this post, there's literally only 1 Mara's on NA AH, and it's going for 5mil, even though its rolls are somewhat below average.
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Coolness53
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
May 26 2012 16:27 GMT
#557
On May 27 2012 01:18 TheYango wrote:
The other thing to consider is that Kymbo's is likely to be a lot more economical than Mara's. A perfect Mara's might be better than a perfect Kymbo's, but given all the relevant factors (Mara's being higher ilvl, higher value stats, more well-known high-profile item, desirable item for all classes and not just Barbarian), I'd expect Kymbo's to be an order of magnitude cheaper than Mara's to obtain.

You can get reasonably rolled Kymbo's in the 500k to 1mil price range, as seen on the last few pages. Good luck even getting the shittiest possible Mara's for that kind of price. At the time of this post, there's literally only 1 Mara's on NA AH, and it's going for 5mil, even though its rolls are somewhat below average.


Just wondering if I should sell the Mara's I have and get a Kimbo...If it is about even then I may just sell the Mara's and get a Kymbo.
Fruitdealer, DongRaeGu, and Soulkey
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 26 2012 16:30 GMT
#558
On May 27 2012 01:27 Coolness53 wrote:
Just wondering if I should sell the Mara's I have and get a Kimbo...If it is about even then I may just sell the Mara's and get a Kymbo.

That depends how good your Mara's is.

I'd also be careful about pricing out a Mara's at this point, given how few there are on the market and how high-demand I can see them being.

Unrelated: which quest is the best point to start a Warden->Butcher run? I cleared my way to the Butcher without dying once, so I figured I'm ready to upgrade from SkeleKing runs.
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 26 2012 16:41 GMT
#559
9. The Imprisoned Angel will guarantee you five stacks for warden / butcher.

If you start at the Cursed Hold, you'll only get 1-3 stacks for Warden and might not have 5 for Butcher.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-26 16:55:20
May 26 2012 16:54 GMT
#560
How can you kill Warden? After many smooth SK runs, I decide to try out for Butcher, went pretty well. I started at Hall of Agony 2, I got at least 4 stacks when I reach Butcher. Its quite fast, even faster than the way I run SK but net less profit if you don't get a good item that can sell on AH.

By doing SK, I always net more than a full bag of blues +5-9 yellows. 50-60% of my run I encounter the Gold Goblin, hes quite alot of gold .

So I don't which want is better now. Does Butcher really drop better item than SK? I got 6 yellows out of him in 3 runs and them all are weapon -_-.

Btw, I got a legendary today, too bad it sucks so bad that I can only sell it for 40K, would have given it to my Enchantress

@yango: Did you buy your ring? Or it drops for you?
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