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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
May 26 2012 04:03 GMT
#521
I don't think people know how to price kymbos, while not as good as skyrs (grats!) I got this one for 600k.

[image loading]

the absolute best kymbos are those with high +life on hit, vitality or all resist mod AND melee damage reduced by 4-5% instead of knockback/blind/whatever. I wasn't able to find one myself though.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 26 2012 04:06 GMT
#522
Is melee damage reduction extremely rare? I didn't see a single one with it when I was searching =\

I wish I had money for Stormshield, there was one with 39% block with good stats and another one with 28% block with good stats as well but both of those are gone ><

I can get to phase 3 Belial and than drop dead to his smash / special )= Need more gear!!
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
May 26 2012 04:10 GMT
#523
yeah it's pretty rare. Kripps has it, of course.


honestly you should get a string of ears first and foremost, it's the single greatest item (even over stormshield) for a barb or monk. they are pretty cheap, I got a sick 18% for like 2M. I didn't feel like min/max for a 20% for like 6-12M at this stage of the game.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-26 04:21:09
May 26 2012 04:19 GMT
#524
On May 26 2012 13:03 crms wrote:
the absolute best kymbos are those with high +life on hit, vitality or all resist mod AND melee damage reduced by 4-5% instead of knockback/blind/whatever. I wasn't able to find one myself though.

According to the game guide, the knockback on hit is fixed.

Related aside: I hate how you can't use the preferred stat filters when searching for uniques. Why can't I filter only for Kymbos that have Vitality?
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
May 26 2012 04:21 GMT
#525
On May 26 2012 13:19 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2012 13:03 crms wrote:
the absolute best kymbos are those with high +life on hit, vitality or all resist mod AND melee damage reduced by 4-5% instead of knockback/blind/whatever. I wasn't able to find one myself though.

According to the game guide, the knockback on hit is fixed.



ohh, so kripp rolled the -damage reduction off one fo the other mods, interesting. Thanks!
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-26 04:24:53
May 26 2012 04:22 GMT
#526
Ya I hate how you can't filter stats for uniques >< Have to go through all the garbage pieces and than find out the good one is sold out by the time you click it =\

Farming gold right now so we'll see what my next item will be
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 26 2012 04:25 GMT
#527
Wow, I wasn't really thinking the market for uniques would be competitive, but String of Ears and Kymbo's both seem very reasonably-priced. Going to spend the next few days watching for good ones that go up cheap.
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
May 26 2012 04:54 GMT
#528
Oh, I forgot. As promised:

[image loading]

Those are the stats in my hybrid str/tank gear that's capable of soloing the first boss in ACT4. I find this mob to be even better than farming the ghosts since it's always at least 2 drops even with 0 MF. The ghosts drop 1 for me quite a bit even with 200%+ MF. ~_~

For Build I go:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#WTRVkP!Vbe!cYZccZ

I'm in the process of changing up and trying new builds but this is the one that's given me the most success so far. basically I stand there and tank adds (they cant kill me) until boss comes and blow every CD I have. The only thing that can really kill me is his fire spell, so I have to watch for that and move (if I even get a chance).

http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
May 26 2012 05:00 GMT
#529
On May 26 2012 05:08 Caphe wrote:
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On May 26 2012 04:28 Treehead wrote:
Anyone else trying to stay out of melee combat on their barb? I was recently theorycrafting and I was wondering if there was a way to use things like Seismic Slam or Weapon Throw to reliably kite like a ranged class would. I was actually thinking of using bash with the extra fury rune (for 12 fury per hit) to keep one of these ranged options going. I'm not into inferno yet, though - has anyone tried it? Does it work decently?

There are a few axe throw build a few pages back IIRC haven't try it myself yet cos for me it defeats the whole point of playing a Barb. Still, I think its viable up to Hell though, not sure about Inferno.

axe build works fine in inferno, u do need decent equips to do it though (+crit, +crit damage are the most important)
here: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#dfSikX!ZYf!cZcYZc
make sure u equip an axe or a mace
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
May 26 2012 05:24 GMT
#530
*newb question*


when you have an item with +armor and another with +all resist, it will always show the +armor as more protection on the tooltip because the tool tip doesn't count resist as +protection. Right?


My example isn't always true, my main question however is about if protection on tool tip is factored or influenced by resist stats. I don't think it counts.
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Sindriss
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark263 Posts
May 26 2012 05:25 GMT
#531
So, I have around 440-500 in all res with shout, I got 9.5k dps with dps shout (30%) and I got 6500 armor. Furthermore, around 900 in both str/vit. I can kill leoric after some time, but elite/champs are too much for me.

What should I change/what do I need in order to kill elites/champs.

My build is leap with stun, 2x shout, revenge, earthquake, frenzy.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-26 05:36:39
May 26 2012 05:36 GMT
#532
On May 26 2012 14:25 Sindriss wrote:
So, I have around 440-500 in all res with shout, I got 9.5k dps with dps shout (30%) and I got 6500 armor. Furthermore, around 900 in both str/vit. I can kill leoric after some time, but elite/champs are too much for me.

What should I change/what do I need in order to kill elites/champs.

My build is leap with stun, 2x shout, revenge, earthquake, frenzy.


for champions what i do:

passives:
-superstition
-nerves of steel
-relentless

skills:
-warcry (res)
-threatening (15% attack slow)
-furious charge (8% leech)
-frenzy (sidearm)
-revenge (provocation)

this is a pretty safe build with average gear. my barb has about 7k armor, 57k hp, 550+ res, and 8k dps. i can do all packs fairly easy but it takes a while.

atm im trying out burst builds where i swap out relentless for berserker rage, and switch out furious charge and threatening war for earthquake and wrath of berserker. with that current build packs go down a lot quicker, but i usually die to harder packs like arcane/wallers.
Skol
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 26 2012 05:43 GMT
#533
That gear isn't average >.> You can basically just stand still in arcane / molten / desecrate and not die to it in act I. The only mobs that can possibly kill you are the Berserkers.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
May 26 2012 05:43 GMT
#534
@ Sindriss: you have more than enough to kill SK and Butcher. If you have problem with most rare/elite than you are doing something wrong.
I suggest change Leap + stun to Leap+ Iron Impact this will boost your Armor by a large margin with low cd.
You need more DPS skill, ditch one of the shout keep Warcry only. If you have only one slot you can spare for a 2 min cd, get WoTB since WoTB has very high DPS potential as well as crowd control immunity.

@all other with with some sick Barb gear: You guys are so fucking rich while I am poor as dirt . Was thinking of getting a Kymbo since there were 2 less than 700K but now they are gone .
I got a Puzzle ring yesterday for 50K though. Didn't even notice its only lv44, lol
Terran
carpola
Profile Joined August 2010
United States168 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-26 05:51:07
May 26 2012 05:45 GMT
#535
I have difficulty starting Act 2 Inferno. I have 600+ all resist with 43k hp and 5k+ damage. It gets super hard even at the beginning and I have no idea why I can't progress. I get hit pretty hard now, but I could do Act 1 easily. Any thoughts?
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
May 26 2012 06:05 GMT
#536
Does the pony land worth farming? The staff recipe dropped for me first time I kill Izual in hell. Haven't got the time to make it yet.
Terran
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 26 2012 06:07 GMT
#537
The map isn't linear so not really.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-26 06:26:09
May 26 2012 06:24 GMT
#538
On May 26 2012 14:45 carpola wrote:
I have difficulty starting Act 2 Inferno. I have 600+ all resist with 43k hp and 5k+ damage. It gets super hard even at the beginning and I have no idea why I can't progress. I get hit pretty hard now, but I could do Act 1 easily. Any thoughts?


try my build about 3 posts above u. i can probably get through half the packs in act 2, but none that i find easy. its mostly just getting lucky with revenge and positioning, and landing a few clutch charges.

try using enchantress and get the buff armor from her second spell i think? that always helps.

also, people saying im rich? id guess that most of my gear is less than 10mill. is that a lot? i was always under the impression that thats pretty low. i usually only make sales of 80-150k at AH about twice a day.

edit:
pony level sucks. its nothing in comparison to how cows was. i was pretty dissapointed = /
Skol
carpola
Profile Joined August 2010
United States168 Posts
May 26 2012 06:29 GMT
#539
On May 26 2012 15:24 Emnjay808 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2012 14:45 carpola wrote:
I have difficulty starting Act 2 Inferno. I have 600+ all resist with 43k hp and 5k+ damage. It gets super hard even at the beginning and I have no idea why I can't progress. I get hit pretty hard now, but I could do Act 1 easily. Any thoughts?


try my build about 3 posts above u. i can probably get through half the packs in act 2, but none that i find easy. its mostly just getting lucky with revenge and positioning, and landing a few clutch charges.

try using enchantress and get the buff armor from her second spell i think? that always helps.

also, people saying im rich? id guess that most of my gear is less than 10mill. is that a lot? i was always under the impression that thats pretty low. i usually only make sales of 80-150k at AH about twice a day.

edit:
pony level sucks. its nothing in comparison to how cows was. i was pretty dissapointed = /


I'm actually using the exact same build, but I think our passives are a little different. I also use enchantress for attack speed and armor.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-26 07:18:20
May 26 2012 07:15 GMT
#540
On May 26 2012 14:43 Caphe wrote:
@all other with with some sick Barb gear: You guys are so fucking rich while I am poor as dirt . Was thinking of getting a Kymbo since there were 2 less than 700K but now they are gone .
I got a Puzzle ring yesterday for 50K though. Didn't even notice its only lv44, lol

It's worth noting that it's not so simple as just "getting a Kymbo". Most of the uniques at the bottom end of the price pool (500k Strings of Ears, Kymbo's below 1 mil) generally have poorly rolled stats. A Kymbo that has like +Dex or something as one of the random mods and has poor rolls on the value ranges is probably not worth your hard-earned gold--part of why people are showing off the good deals they found.

On May 26 2012 15:05 Caphe wrote:
Does the pony land worth farming? The staff recipe dropped for me first time I kill Izual in hell. Haven't got the time to make it yet.

Supposedly suicide running the Inferno version is an easy way to get random Inferno loot, but it takes a fair amount of gold to make. The recipe only makes the normal staff, and you need to pay 200k, 500k, and 1mil respectively to upgrade it to Nightmare, Hell, and Inferno versions.

Plus there are reports of the staff disappearing, so I've been putting off making it until it's confirmed that its fixed and won't disappear on me.
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