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I'm using a HotA build since some weeks, it's probably faster at higher MP but at MP0-3 it seems to me that WW variants are still better. I hate exp farming though, so I don't have numbers to prove anything. I get bored very fast, plus I'm in a terrible streak of over 100 bad legendaries, so whenever I change build it always seems the best in the world.
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/BigG-2621/hero/412709
I tried HotA/Smash and HotA/Thunderstrike, pros and cons for both. On paper Thunderstrike is far better, less damage but larger AoE, plus the stun effect which solves a lot of survivability issues and mitigates the always annoying fear on hit from EF. But... it has a lower coefficient, so when there are only 1-2 elites left I lose fury, which in turn lowers the cc of HotA and I have to use Bash more often - and that is inefficient with Bash/Punish.
I tried Animosity and Unforgiving... Animosity + IK set + good cc from gear = 100% cc for HotA. Amazing in combat. Unforgiving + IK set = permanent Sprint/Marathon. Amazing off combat.
Sprint/RLTW or Marathon... again, clear pros and cons for both. I'm sticking with Marathon though, it seems to help a bit more for keeping WotB up (it may seem counterintuitive, but it is more fury efficient and it shortens the distance between packs).
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hey guys, thanks to your help, i can run mp6 easily now, yet i still dont understand what weapons to buy.
i read that the mainhand should have a shitton of dmg in the first place and critdamage, strengh is a nice little add. does the speed matter on that one at all?
Also, i read that the offhand should have very fast speed (dagger), crit and crit socket - preferably life on hit and strengh as well.
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/DiaBoLuS-2643/hero/19312
im so unsure with my weapons and with the gear itself, plz help me to fix obvious mistakes (note that i only invested about 14 million total, since thats all i had. i could do the same for 10-11 now, but i did bad buys when i started d3 again)
thanks in advance!
€: buying mainhand tomorrow since echoing fury's fear on mainhand sux balls.
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I've been looking all over the battle.net forums about frenzy(maniac) compared to bash(punish). Still don't know for sure if maniac actually gives you the 20% damage boost to other skills(hota or rend) like punish(24%) does. Still new to the game and any clear yes or no would be suffice.
This is the thread I found that gave me answers but I'm not 100% sure.
https://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7199640398
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Looking for some upgrade opinions please :D
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Charger-1101/hero/23424149
I just spent most of my money on upgrades today but when my old gear and some AH stuff sells I should have at least 100-150m to work with. What needs the most attention? I was thinking my ice climbers and mempo are pretty average. A str mempo with 260 str and no crit bumps my sheet dps by about 7k but obviously losing that 4cc could be a big deal, I dunno. And the ice climbers need to be upgraded to more str/vit I think. Thoughts?
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On December 17 2012 12:55 Kurosaki wrote:I've been looking all over the battle.net forums about frenzy(maniac) compared to bash(punish). Still don't know for sure if maniac actually gives you the 20% damage boost to other skills(hota or rend) like punish(24%) does. Still new to the game and any clear yes or no would be suffice. This is the thread I found that gave me answers but I'm not 100% sure. https://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7199640398
Frenzy maniac does provide a 20% damage boost. If you were to open your inventory and the details tab while in a fight, you'll see a stat called weapon damage increased by skills which will go up with each stack. As for which one, it is a matter of taste:
- frenzy is much faster at 5 stacks, you can easily slip a quick hit with minimal interruption to your other skills
- bash has a higher fury per hit, so if you only hit periodically to top off your fury this is better
- frenzy is not so great for getting some quick fury when it's at 0 stacks. However, at 5 stacks it is extremely good.
- bash gives a bit more of a damage boost
- bash has knockback which is annoying, frenzy does not
- frenzy has an indicator so you know when to hit next. However for frenzy the buff is only 4 seconds while for bash it is 5
On December 19 2012 06:28 Charger wrote:Looking for some upgrade opinions please :D http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Charger-1101/hero/23424149I just spent most of my money on upgrades today but when my old gear and some AH stuff sells I should have at least 100-150m to work with. What needs the most attention? I was thinking my ice climbers and mempo are pretty average. A str mempo with 260 str and no crit bumps my sheet dps by about 7k but obviously losing that 4cc could be a big deal, I dunno. And the ice climbers need to be upgraded to more str/vit I think. Thoughts?
I feel that your vitality is a bit on the low side, and consequently you rely heavily on the 270 vit of your amulet to provide hp. If you were to get an IK chest with higher vit, you would free your amulet from requiring so much vit so you can go for something with better crit chance and crit damage. You're also 7% from the next breakpoint for your offhand, so going for a trifecta on the amulet is something to consider.
In general, I feel that the 1.3 axe + .25 EF is a bit awkward though. The attack speeds don't line up as well as they do for 1.2 mace + 0.25 EF or a 10% IAS 1.43 axe with +0.25 EF.
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On December 19 2012 06:28 Charger wrote:Looking for some upgrade opinions please :D http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Charger-1101/hero/23424149I just spent most of my money on upgrades today but when my old gear and some AH stuff sells I should have at least 100-150m to work with. What needs the most attention? I was thinking my ice climbers and mempo are pretty average. A str mempo with 260 str and no crit bumps my sheet dps by about 7k but obviously losing that 4cc could be a big deal, I dunno. And the ice climbers need to be upgraded to more str/vit I think. Thoughts?
for the money u have, i dont like ur weapons too much.
id buy a 1.1k dps ~70+% crit socket club, preferably with str on it instead of butchers sickle...
i dont know how much money it costs, but i personally would search for ice climbers with movement speed on it, so you can replace innas (blackthornes?) or lacunis (stongarm?).
This is just personal preference though, im not a high tier barbarian to judge that
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On December 19 2012 07:33 zylog wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 12:55 Kurosaki wrote:I've been looking all over the battle.net forums about frenzy(maniac) compared to bash(punish). Still don't know for sure if maniac actually gives you the 20% damage boost to other skills(hota or rend) like punish(24%) does. Still new to the game and any clear yes or no would be suffice. This is the thread I found that gave me answers but I'm not 100% sure. https://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7199640398 Frenzy maniac does provide a 20% damage boost. If you were to open your inventory and the details tab while in a fight, you'll see a stat called weapon damage increased by skills which will go up with each stack. As for which one, it is a matter of taste: - frenzy is much faster at 5 stacks, you can easily slip a quick hit with minimal interruption to your other skills - bash has a higher fury per hit, so if you only hit periodically to top off your fury this is better - frenzy is not so great for getting some quick fury when it's at 0 stacks. However, at 5 stacks it is extremely good. - bash gives a bit more of a damage boost - bash has knockback which is annoying, frenzy does not - frenzy has an indicator so you know when to hit next. However for frenzy the buff is only 4 seconds while for bash it is 5 Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 06:28 Charger wrote:Looking for some upgrade opinions please :D http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Charger-1101/hero/23424149I just spent most of my money on upgrades today but when my old gear and some AH stuff sells I should have at least 100-150m to work with. What needs the most attention? I was thinking my ice climbers and mempo are pretty average. A str mempo with 260 str and no crit bumps my sheet dps by about 7k but obviously losing that 4cc could be a big deal, I dunno. And the ice climbers need to be upgraded to more str/vit I think. Thoughts? I feel that your vitality is a bit on the low side, and consequently you rely heavily on the 270 vit of your amulet to provide hp. If you were to get an IK chest with higher vit, you would free your amulet from requiring so much vit so you can go for something with better crit chance and crit damage. You're also 7% from the next breakpoint for your offhand, so going for a trifecta on the amulet is something to consider. In general, I feel that the 1.3 axe + .25 EF is a bit awkward though. The attack speeds don't line up as well as they do for 1.2 mace + 0.25 EF or a 10% IAS 1.43 axe with +0.25 EF.
is there some calculator for weapon speed? i have no clue how my weapons go together (low budget barb, build this with ~15 million alltogether)
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/DiaBoLuS-2643/hero/19312
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On December 19 2012 07:35 KalWarkov wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 06:28 Charger wrote:Looking for some upgrade opinions please :D http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Charger-1101/hero/23424149I just spent most of my money on upgrades today but when my old gear and some AH stuff sells I should have at least 100-150m to work with. What needs the most attention? I was thinking my ice climbers and mempo are pretty average. A str mempo with 260 str and no crit bumps my sheet dps by about 7k but obviously losing that 4cc could be a big deal, I dunno. And the ice climbers need to be upgraded to more str/vit I think. Thoughts? for the money u have, i dont like ur weapons too much. id buy a 1.1k dps ~70+% crit socket club, preferably with str on it instead of butchers sickle... i dont know how much money it costs, but i personally would search for ice climbers with movement speed on it, so you can replace innas (blackthornes?) or lacunis (stongarm?). This is just personal preference though, im not a high tier barbarian to judge that
Yea this post is not really worth something at all 
Your Iceclimbers are mediocre, if you want to go for pure damage some zunimassa (I guess the new ones should scale better at ur gear) boots would help you out. Otherwise get some more str on them (on EU starting at 45m at 260str)
And I don't know how I feel about ur echoing fury. Would maybe be wroth to try to search for some decent 900+ dps with 90%+ cd and some str. That 12% fear must suck hard
Another possiblity would be to get some nice innas with 80+ str and 80+ vit.
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On December 19 2012 07:35 KalWarkov wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 06:28 Charger wrote:Looking for some upgrade opinions please :D http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Charger-1101/hero/23424149I just spent most of my money on upgrades today but when my old gear and some AH stuff sells I should have at least 100-150m to work with. What needs the most attention? I was thinking my ice climbers and mempo are pretty average. A str mempo with 260 str and no crit bumps my sheet dps by about 7k but obviously losing that 4cc could be a big deal, I dunno. And the ice climbers need to be upgraded to more str/vit I think. Thoughts? for the money u have, i dont like ur weapons too much. id buy a 1.1k dps ~70+% crit socket club, preferably with str on it instead of butchers sickle... i dont know how much money it costs, but i personally would search for ice climbers with movement speed on it, so you can replace innas (blackthornes?) or lacunis (stongarm?). This is just personal preference though, im not a high tier barbarian to judge that
I'm not sure what the EU market is like, but on NA a 1.1 k dps 70% mace with socket is about 300+ mil at this moment. With strength on it, the only weapon above 1.1k dps is on a 2 bil buyout.
On December 19 2012 07:38 KalWarkov wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 07:33 zylog wrote:On December 17 2012 12:55 Kurosaki wrote:I've been looking all over the battle.net forums about frenzy(maniac) compared to bash(punish). Still don't know for sure if maniac actually gives you the 20% damage boost to other skills(hota or rend) like punish(24%) does. Still new to the game and any clear yes or no would be suffice. This is the thread I found that gave me answers but I'm not 100% sure. https://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7199640398 Frenzy maniac does provide a 20% damage boost. If you were to open your inventory and the details tab while in a fight, you'll see a stat called weapon damage increased by skills which will go up with each stack. As for which one, it is a matter of taste: - frenzy is much faster at 5 stacks, you can easily slip a quick hit with minimal interruption to your other skills - bash has a higher fury per hit, so if you only hit periodically to top off your fury this is better - frenzy is not so great for getting some quick fury when it's at 0 stacks. However, at 5 stacks it is extremely good. - bash gives a bit more of a damage boost - bash has knockback which is annoying, frenzy does not - frenzy has an indicator so you know when to hit next. However for frenzy the buff is only 4 seconds while for bash it is 5 On December 19 2012 06:28 Charger wrote:Looking for some upgrade opinions please :D http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Charger-1101/hero/23424149I just spent most of my money on upgrades today but when my old gear and some AH stuff sells I should have at least 100-150m to work with. What needs the most attention? I was thinking my ice climbers and mempo are pretty average. A str mempo with 260 str and no crit bumps my sheet dps by about 7k but obviously losing that 4cc could be a big deal, I dunno. And the ice climbers need to be upgraded to more str/vit I think. Thoughts? I feel that your vitality is a bit on the low side, and consequently you rely heavily on the 270 vit of your amulet to provide hp. If you were to get an IK chest with higher vit, you would free your amulet from requiring so much vit so you can go for something with better crit chance and crit damage. You're also 7% from the next breakpoint for your offhand, so going for a trifecta on the amulet is something to consider. In general, I feel that the 1.3 axe + .25 EF is a bit awkward though. The attack speeds don't line up as well as they do for 1.2 mace + 0.25 EF or a 10% IAS 1.43 axe with +0.25 EF. is there some calculator for weapon speed? i have no clue how my weapons go together (low budget barb, build this with ~15 million alltogether) http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/DiaBoLuS-2643/hero/19312
I've been mostly using www.d3rawr.com/d this past month. Apparently www.d3up.com also added these calculations in their last update.
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Thanks for the replies guys ^^
The sickle is pretty damn good when paired with an echoing fury off hand. The fear is annoying but the dragging effect from the sickle procs pretty often and drags enemies back on top of me. A cold soj is also a good item to pair with an echoing fury. I just recently switched my ef to my off hand but so far it seems the fear procs less now. Plus with the ls on the sickle I can skip it on the ef to save some money.
My vit is pretty low and I wish I wasn't so heavily reliant on my ammy. At least for ubers I can throw in an 18% life gem and be around 42k or so. The long term goal is to work in more vit elsewhere and upgrade the ammy to be more damage focused.
80 str / 80 vit innas are definitely too expensive. There is only 1 pair on the NA AH right now with current bid of 661m (8 hrs left). I could add in some vit but it would be like 30-40 most likely and I'm not sure its worth it for that little.
I'm still thinking ice climbers might be the biggest priority. I could opt for either more str or more vit and it wouldn't cost a fortune.
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Looking to give my 60 Barb a try after not playing since like 1.0.3, want to get into Paragon farming etc.
What sort of budget (in gold) will I need to build a reasonable gear set that can farm reasonably efficiently? Assume I have no real usable gear already.
No trolling about RMAH etc please. Thanks
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Read the previous page, there is a bit of discussion about 10 million gold budget or even less - and I gave some useful tips.
Edit: since we were talking about Tyrael's Might last week, this is what I meant when I said that the random roll is key (note that it was a free bid auction):
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On December 19 2012 23:43 Big G wrote:
Read the previous page, there is a bit of discussion about 10 million gold budget or even less - and I gave some useful tips.
Yeah, I've read through a lot of pages back, but RE: the 10 mil thing, he was shot down about it not being possible. 10m seems like nothing in softcore, I was looking through the AH and everything decent is just shy of a billion gold.
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Then please explain what do you mean by "decent" or "farming efficiently". For one billion gold you can almost get the gear I have after 700 hours of playtime.
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On December 20 2012 00:34 Nekovivie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 23:43 Big G wrote:
Read the previous page, there is a bit of discussion about 10 million gold budget or even less - and I gave some useful tips. Yeah, I've read through a lot of pages back, but RE: the 10 mil thing, he was shot down about it not being possible. 10m seems like nothing in softcore, I was looking through the AH and everything decent is just shy of a billion gold.
10 mil is fine to get farming decently these days. You can get reasonable items for very little, there's no reason to be looking at billion gold items unless you already have an amazing set.
You can do a cheap rend/sprint build with a skorn at mp0. Keep sprinting through the map, allowing your tornadoes to kill behind you, and use rend in conjunction with other cooldown skills to burst down elites in a couple of seconds.
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On December 20 2012 01:14 Big G wrote:
Then please explain what do you mean by "decent" or "farming efficiently". For one billion gold you can almost get the gear I have after 700 hours of playtime.
Well with the gear I have from 1.0.3 it takes me a few minutes to kill any elite pack, I just wanna chop this time down considerably.
I suppose the advantage of the AH being overflowed with items means the 95% good items are affordable. I'll see what I can dig up, thanks for the advice.
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is there any defensive skill build that doesnt rely too much on crit, but is still decently fast at farming? (for HC)
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On December 20 2012 01:48 Nekovivie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 01:14 Big G wrote:
Then please explain what do you mean by "decent" or "farming efficiently". For one billion gold you can almost get the gear I have after 700 hours of playtime. Well with the gear I have from 1.0.3 it takes me a few minutes to kill any elite pack, I just wanna chop this time down considerably. I suppose the advantage of the AH being overflowed with items means the 95% good items are affordable. I'll see what I can dig up, thanks for the advice.
Could you link your profile? For reference, 1.03 barbs had something like 15k dps and 4 defensive skill, while nowadays with 10 million you can reach something like 100k dps with 24%ms +sprint and decent survivability. Granted, you have to be very smart and patient in the AH.
Look for the cheapest Strongarm Bracers or Fire Walkers and you'll see what I mean, for 50k gold you get something that's probably 10 times better than the typical 1.03 items.
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Just recently rolled a Barb and got him some gear. However, I'm not sure what stats are paramount in terms of increasing DPS.
Also, I'm not entirely knowledgeable in terms of barb farming builds. So I was looking for help in that regard.
Here is my hero.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Artemis-1853/hero/24384380
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i think fastest upgrades would be getting crit dmg too on your ik gloves, another 100 str and some vit or life% on your ik belt, and then you could probably afford to exchange innas for some rare pants with a lot more str/vit/allres if you want
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