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On September 04 2012 06:31 themcking wrote:http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/king-2492/hero/157357 DPS: 37,623.03 Attacks per Second: 1.61 Critical Hit Chance: 38% Critical Hit Damage: 276% Strength: 1,626 Dexterity: 465 Intelligence: 160 Vitality: 1,126 Magic Find: 54% Gold Find: 47% Maximum Life: 42,860.88 Total Life Bonus: 8% Life per Second: 0 Life Steal: 3% Life per Kill: 0 Life per Hit: 754 Health Globe Healing Bonus: 0 Bonus to Gold/Globe Radius: 0 EHP: 529,847.3 EHP w/ Dodge: 655,143.5 What should I upgrade next? I still get killed when I try to kill normal mobs in act 3.
you need mroe life on hit, at laest 1k, better 1.2-1.4k.
you need more crit chance, at least 45% imho. with 38%, the chance/risk of running out of fury mid-fight is just too big.
whats your all res and armor, both buffed?
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7332 Armor and All resi ranges from 890 to 1050. But isn't that all in EHP? I thought it does not matter how much vita/resi/armor I have as long it is a big EHP.
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On September 04 2012 06:31 themcking wrote:http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/king-2492/hero/157357 DPS: 37,623.03 Attacks per Second: 1.61 Critical Hit Chance: 38% Critical Hit Damage: 276% Strength: 1,626 Dexterity: 465 Intelligence: 160 Vitality: 1,126 Magic Find: 54% Gold Find: 47% Maximum Life: 42,860.88 Total Life Bonus: 8% Life per Second: 0 Life Steal: 3% Life per Kill: 0 Life per Hit: 754 Health Globe Healing Bonus: 0 Bonus to Gold/Globe Radius: 0 EHP: 529,847.3 EHP w/ Dodge: 655,143.5 What should I upgrade next? I still get killed when I try to kill normal mobs in act 3.
Free improvements:
- Use your enchantress! She gives you very good buffs.
- Try swapping to 'Nerves of Steel' instead of 'Tough as Nails' passive - it will probably give you more armour. Alternatively, try 'Superstition', and see if you prefer that.
- Practice. It's not a build that people tend to be able to pick up straight away. Remember that SPRINT is your primary attack - everything else is less important. Never stop sprinting (even when whirlwinding). It's also absolutely crucial that you keep your battle rage buff active at all times
Gear improvements:
- You don't have enough LOH - you want several hundred more. Fortunately, with the ww/sprint build the offhand DPS really doesn't matter much at all. This means you should be able to get a very cheap weapon with ~900 LOH,a gem slot, and good stats. You may wish to place LOH gem(s) in your weapons also.
- Your crit chance is far too low. This is a devastating mistake. You want to have ~45% as an absolute minimum, and the more crit the better. A cheap blue necklace, with 8.5% crit and vitality, would improve your character significantly. You may also wish to try a shield. These can ALSO come with huge crit chance, and make you a lot less squishy too.
- You should shift your focus away from stats like critical hit damage, or gold + magic find, until you actually have sufficient gear to actually stay alive properly!
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On September 04 2012 06:55 themcking wrote:
7332 Armor and All resi ranges from 890 to 1050. But isn't that all in EHP? I thought it does not matter how much vita/resi/armor I have as long it is a big EHP.
no, it does make a difference, a huge difference!
you can get to 500k ehp with 40k hp and high res/armor or with 50k hp and less res/armor. the former will mean that each point of LoH regenerates more effective hp than in the latter case. therefore, your survivability will be higher in the former case, even though the effective hps are the same.
basically, your survivability is determined by the time it takes you to die. and this is determined by
hp/ ( damage you receive per second, after damage reduction - life you regenerate per second)
this can also be rewritten by
hp/ [nominal damage per second * (armor DR factor) * (res DR factor) - life regen per second]
you can clearly see that this equation is linear in the raw hp number, but nonlinear in the armor and res damage reduction factor.
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Thank you guys. Bought a diffrent off hand and put a gem in it for loh. I already survive a lot better than before.
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Can you do WW on a 4m budget with a fresh 60 or is it a waste of money trying, even for Act II farming?
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On September 04 2012 18:54 Nallen wrote:
Can you do WW on a 4m budget with a fresh 60 or is it a waste of money trying, even for Act II farming?
I geared up a friend for precisely that budget and he beat all of inferno. He was on roughly 25k DPS, I think. It's definitely plausible.
My advice would be to pick your weapons very, very, VERY carefully (you can grab a really good deal if you're patient), then just grab the rest of your gear with the remainder of your budget.
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On September 04 2012 18:54 Nallen wrote:
Can you do WW on a 4m budget with a fresh 60 or is it a waste of money trying, even for Act II farming?
easily possible, but you will have to be patient when buying the gear for that barb. this means that it will take several days, up to a week, before the gear is complete.
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On September 04 2012 19:49 Hairy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 18:54 Nallen wrote:
Can you do WW on a 4m budget with a fresh 60 or is it a waste of money trying, even for Act II farming? I geared up a friend for precisely that budget and he beat all of inferno. He was on roughly 25k DPS, I think. It's definitely plausible. My advice would be to pick your weapons very, very, VERY carefully (you can grab a really good deal if you're patient), then just grab the rest of your gear with the remainder of your budget.
On September 04 2012 21:35 Black Gun wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 18:54 Nallen wrote:
Can you do WW on a 4m budget with a fresh 60 or is it a waste of money trying, even for Act II farming? easily possible, but you will have to be patient when buying the gear for that barb. this means that it will take several days, up to a week, before the gear is complete.
I'm happy to do that, I have a DH and the Barb isn't even 60 yet. So, especially in terms of weapons what should I been aiming at? having done the reading it seems like in terms of weapons I want a high DPS (1000+ dps) main hand with a high speed (dagger) socketed off hand with at least 800 LOH. Many of the resist figures I see mentioned seem very high, but it seems like I need to target survivability over DPS (aka AR/VIT over STR) is that correct?
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On September 04 2012 21:49 Nallen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 19:49 Hairy wrote:On September 04 2012 18:54 Nallen wrote:
Can you do WW on a 4m budget with a fresh 60 or is it a waste of money trying, even for Act II farming? I geared up a friend for precisely that budget and he beat all of inferno. He was on roughly 25k DPS, I think. It's definitely plausible. My advice would be to pick your weapons very, very, VERY carefully (you can grab a really good deal if you're patient), then just grab the rest of your gear with the remainder of your budget. Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 21:35 Black Gun wrote:On September 04 2012 18:54 Nallen wrote:
Can you do WW on a 4m budget with a fresh 60 or is it a waste of money trying, even for Act II farming? easily possible, but you will have to be patient when buying the gear for that barb. this means that it will take several days, up to a week, before the gear is complete. I'm happy to do that, I have a DH and the Barb isn't even 60 yet. So, especially in terms of weapons what should I been aiming at? having done the reading it seems like in terms of weapons I want a high DPS (1000+ dps) main hand with a high speed (dagger) socketed off hand with at least 800 LOH. Many of the resist figures I see mentioned seem very high, but it seems like I need to target survivability over DPS (aka AR/VIT over STR) is that correct?
yes, just get a 800-900+ dps mace or axe with a socket or crit dam and a dagger with 800+ LoH and a socket. then focus on allres, armor, crit chance and a healthy mix of vita and str on your armory. you need a certain amount of crit chance to be able to sustain your fury, but other than that, survivability has priority on a low budget char.
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On September 04 2012 21:49 Nallen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 19:49 Hairy wrote:On September 04 2012 18:54 Nallen wrote:
Can you do WW on a 4m budget with a fresh 60 or is it a waste of money trying, even for Act II farming? I geared up a friend for precisely that budget and he beat all of inferno. He was on roughly 25k DPS, I think. It's definitely plausible. My advice would be to pick your weapons very, very, VERY carefully (you can grab a really good deal if you're patient), then just grab the rest of your gear with the remainder of your budget. Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 21:35 Black Gun wrote:On September 04 2012 18:54 Nallen wrote:
Can you do WW on a 4m budget with a fresh 60 or is it a waste of money trying, even for Act II farming? easily possible, but you will have to be patient when buying the gear for that barb. this means that it will take several days, up to a week, before the gear is complete. I'm happy to do that, I have a DH and the Barb isn't even 60 yet. So, especially in terms of weapons what should I been aiming at? having done the reading it seems like in terms of weapons I want a high DPS (1000+ dps) main hand with a high speed (dagger) socketed off hand with at least 800 LOH. Many of the resist figures I see mentioned seem very high, but it seems like I need to target survivability over DPS (aka AR/VIT over STR) is that correct?
.... kind of. You basically want enough survivability to survive, then more than that is kind of pointless! So then you focus on maintaining a level of survivability you're happy with, and increasing damage as much as possible. A dead barb does 0 DPS.
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On September 04 2012 22:11 Hairy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 21:49 Nallen wrote:On September 04 2012 19:49 Hairy wrote:On September 04 2012 18:54 Nallen wrote:
Can you do WW on a 4m budget with a fresh 60 or is it a waste of money trying, even for Act II farming? I geared up a friend for precisely that budget and he beat all of inferno. He was on roughly 25k DPS, I think. It's definitely plausible. My advice would be to pick your weapons very, very, VERY carefully (you can grab a really good deal if you're patient), then just grab the rest of your gear with the remainder of your budget. On September 04 2012 21:35 Black Gun wrote:On September 04 2012 18:54 Nallen wrote:
Can you do WW on a 4m budget with a fresh 60 or is it a waste of money trying, even for Act II farming? easily possible, but you will have to be patient when buying the gear for that barb. this means that it will take several days, up to a week, before the gear is complete. I'm happy to do that, I have a DH and the Barb isn't even 60 yet. So, especially in terms of weapons what should I been aiming at? having done the reading it seems like in terms of weapons I want a high DPS (1000+ dps) main hand with a high speed (dagger) socketed off hand with at least 800 LOH. Many of the resist figures I see mentioned seem very high, but it seems like I need to target survivability over DPS (aka AR/VIT over STR) is that correct? .... kind of. You basically want enough survivability to survive, then more than that is kind of pointless! So then you focus on maintaining a level of survivability you're happy with, and increasing damage as much as possible. A dead barb does 0 DPS.
Here is the issue, I have no idea what just enough is. I am worried I'll spend all the cash, find it's not enough to work and then be back to square one.
Any idea of some figures to aim at - 500AR, 40k HP, 25% CC, 1k LOH etc?
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On September 04 2012 23:08 Nallen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 22:11 Hairy wrote:On September 04 2012 21:49 Nallen wrote:On September 04 2012 19:49 Hairy wrote:On September 04 2012 18:54 Nallen wrote:
Can you do WW on a 4m budget with a fresh 60 or is it a waste of money trying, even for Act II farming? I geared up a friend for precisely that budget and he beat all of inferno. He was on roughly 25k DPS, I think. It's definitely plausible. My advice would be to pick your weapons very, very, VERY carefully (you can grab a really good deal if you're patient), then just grab the rest of your gear with the remainder of your budget. On September 04 2012 21:35 Black Gun wrote:On September 04 2012 18:54 Nallen wrote:
Can you do WW on a 4m budget with a fresh 60 or is it a waste of money trying, even for Act II farming? easily possible, but you will have to be patient when buying the gear for that barb. this means that it will take several days, up to a week, before the gear is complete. I'm happy to do that, I have a DH and the Barb isn't even 60 yet. So, especially in terms of weapons what should I been aiming at? having done the reading it seems like in terms of weapons I want a high DPS (1000+ dps) main hand with a high speed (dagger) socketed off hand with at least 800 LOH. Many of the resist figures I see mentioned seem very high, but it seems like I need to target survivability over DPS (aka AR/VIT over STR) is that correct? .... kind of. You basically want enough survivability to survive, then more than that is kind of pointless! So then you focus on maintaining a level of survivability you're happy with, and increasing damage as much as possible. A dead barb does 0 DPS. Here is the issue, I have no idea what just enough is. I am worried I'll spend all the cash, find it's not enough to work and then be back to square one. Any idea of some figures to aim at - 500AR, 40k HP, 25% CC, 1k LOH etc?
the following is the bare minimum in my opinion:
550 AR buffed, physical should probably be somewhat higher
5.5k armor buffed
1.2k LoH
40k HP
40% crit chance, 35% if you use a mighty weapon.
12k dps for act2, 25k dps for act3. (else it just takes you too long to kill stuff, which increases the chance of dying.)
note that you need less and less LoH as your AR and armor increase.
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I've been kicking at:
~45k health
~550 AR
6.5k armour buffed with enchantress
1091 LOH
~2.0 attack speed
And I feel uncomfortable if I try to use bash rather than leap. I really feel vulnerable without it, so I would probably want more survivability if I were to use an offensive skill. I've been using sprint builds for weeks and weeks and gradually reducing my survivability as time goes on to the minimum I think is necessary, to squeeze maximum DPS out of my gear.
EDIT: oh, and crit chance really makes things more comfortable. I would absolutely recommend trying to get closer to 50% than 40%.
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On September 05 2012 02:53 blagoonga123 wrote:So I still get my ass kicked by some packs sometimes, for example succubus elites in the tower. Here's my profile: https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/rKn-1364/hero/15392622Is there something I should be going for, or am I just kinda gonna have to deal with it
Try going for Clobber instead of Instigation. If they're stunned they can't kite.
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On September 05 2012 02:53 blagoonga123 wrote:So I still get my ass kicked by some packs sometimes, for example succubus elites in the tower. Here's my profile: https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/rKn-1364/hero/15392622Is there something I should be going for, or am I just kinda gonna have to deal with it
Your health is also cripplingly low. Try to get ~45k and you will have a much, MUCH easier time! That is absolutely your #1 gear issue atm.
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i see
maybe i should replace my helm ruby with a helm amethyst
or just get a new one with some health instead of str
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or i could replace all my rubies with amethysts i guess. if dps isn't all that important for whirlwind
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