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CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
September 01 2012 00:39 GMT
#2801
Armor could be a little higher but it looks totally fine and should work if you get familier with the build. You should put a Ruby in your Helm though, getting higher Paragon should be better than 25% MF which don't do a lot in the long run.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
September 01 2012 00:53 GMT
#2802
On September 01 2012 08:49 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 04:09 trinxified wrote:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/trinxified-1614/hero/2139049

My new gears... I missed out on a good chest and shoulders, so I'm kinda sad. There was a chest I wanted with 150str/150vit/65AR/3 sockets! Shoulders I was looking at had 250str/150vit/68AR

holy shit dude, thats some sweet ass set of gear. the only thing that does not fully convince me are your weapons. but thats just a gut feeling, i didnt do the maths.


yeh, only bad about the weapons is no Strength rolls. Though I make that up with higher rolls on the rest of the pieces.
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
September 01 2012 01:49 GMT
#2803
On September 01 2012 09:39 CruelZeratul wrote:
Armor could be a little higher but it looks totally fine and should work if you get familier with the build. You should put a Ruby in your Helm though, getting higher Paragon should be better than 25% MF which don't do a lot in the long run.


Thanks, that's what I figured. It's a magical thing when I get and hold my ww. So awesome and fun! But very sad when you drop it in the middle of a pack TT lol :p
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
September 01 2012 02:17 GMT
#2804
On September 01 2012 10:49 Charger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 09:39 CruelZeratul wrote:
Armor could be a little higher but it looks totally fine and should work if you get familier with the build. You should put a Ruby in your Helm though, getting higher Paragon should be better than 25% MF which don't do a lot in the long run.


Thanks, that's what I figured. It's a magical thing when I get and hold my ww. So awesome and fun! But very sad when you drop it in the middle of a pack TT lol :p

Yeah, sounds like it's a L2P thing. After a few trial-and-error runs, you shouldn't have a problem judging when you can maintain WW.

For the most part, I only do 3-4 passes maximum through a group, and only really keep WW going against Elites.

The issue could also be that you're not keeping Sprint going while you're whirling, or that you're not making large enough circles to spawn enough tornadoes.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
September 01 2012 02:30 GMT
#2805
On September 01 2012 11:17 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 10:49 Charger wrote:
On September 01 2012 09:39 CruelZeratul wrote:
Armor could be a little higher but it looks totally fine and should work if you get familier with the build. You should put a Ruby in your Helm though, getting higher Paragon should be better than 25% MF which don't do a lot in the long run.


Thanks, that's what I figured. It's a magical thing when I get and hold my ww. So awesome and fun! But very sad when you drop it in the middle of a pack TT lol :p

Yeah, sounds like it's a L2P thing. After a few trial-and-error runs, you shouldn't have a problem judging when you can maintain WW.

For the most part, I only do 3-4 passes maximum through a group, and only really keep WW going against Elites.

The issue could also be that you're not keeping Sprint going while you're whirling, or that you're not making large enough circles to spawn enough tornadoes.


Yeah actually (stupidly) I wasn't focused on sprint nearly enough. I heard that I should be doing it but it was low on my priority list of things to do during a fight. I accidentally figured out that that is the most important thing (after dying countless times lol). Still figuring some things out but that one thing feels SOO much better.
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 03:39:05
September 01 2012 03:38 GMT
#2806
So is it normal to show lower dps than what you actually do with ww? I bought an off hand that looked like a big upgrade (but lower dps since that doesn't matter right?) but my dps went down quite a bit.
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Sylvr
Profile Joined May 2010
United States524 Posts
September 01 2012 04:19 GMT
#2807
Correct. Character sheet DPS doesn't tell you much with this build. It's still useful to determine whether a piece of hear is an upgrade, but NOT for offhand weapon. It also gives no indication of sustainability.
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 05:59:29
September 01 2012 05:17 GMT
#2808
On September 01 2012 13:19 Sylvr wrote:
Correct. Character sheet DPS doesn't tell you much with this build. It's still useful to determine whether a piece of hear is an upgrade, but NOT for offhand weapon. It also gives no indication of sustainability.


Perfect, thank you!

edit - WW barb is so fun and so good! Thanks again to all that helped me out, it's greatly appreciated!
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Stratos.FEAR
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada706 Posts
September 01 2012 07:12 GMT
#2809
lol the new andariels is a cruel joke for barbs, picked a cheap one up and im wrecking white mobs and most elite packs easy, however i die a lot more to molten, fire chain and desecrate with waller now (</3 fire weakness)
cabarkapa
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1011 Posts
September 01 2012 07:30 GMT
#2810
Isn't desecrater physical damage?

I think it could balance out with the fact that all enemy damage was reduced by 15% yeah?

Too bad it's probably too expensive for me to try out.
Jaehoon - Master strategist
Stratos.FEAR
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada706 Posts
September 01 2012 07:39 GMT
#2811
i picked mine up for just over a mil so it isnt too expensive since 1 mil is like nothing in this new economy, i could either resell this or find a way to incorporate it into my build, its nice to see a sudden poison nova burst down an entire mob when im WWing through it but losing almost all your health passing through molten is pretty brutal
cabarkapa
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1011 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 08:29:05
September 01 2012 08:28 GMT
#2812
Ah I can't check AH right now, but I figure one with a socket would be pretty expensive.

I also use Overpower since I got used to it before it got nerfed, but that 35% damage reduction is still useful.
Jaehoon - Master strategist
umavfx
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden11 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 08:47:14
September 01 2012 08:32 GMT
#2813
Hello,

I was wondering if I could get your help and input on improving my WW barb for faster Act 3 clears. My current budget is 50,000,000.

There are so much cool stuff to by and I am slightly confused on where to spend the money to get the most bang for my buck.

Here is my setup
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/uma-2985/hero/2220727

At the moment a complete act 3 clear takes me 2.5 hours. Obviuosly I would love to get my hands on gear like Tyreals Might, Lacuni Prowlers, Fire walkers and Andariels visage. But that might not be the most cost effective way of improving? I have a hard time figuring out in what slots to get certain stats.

I would like to mention that my immidiate budget is 50 mill, but I am looking to invest more in a near future so I am looking for longterm feedback as well.

I would love your input on 25 % movement speed for faster clears? and how to go about too get that cost efficient.
My main weapon is pretty rubbish maybe thats where I need to improve?

All hints or tips would be very much appriciated.

Best
Niklas

Stratos.FEAR
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada706 Posts
September 01 2012 08:33 GMT
#2814
never got used to overpower so i use bash and yeah socket for any nice helm is hella expensive since 1.0.4
Sylvr
Profile Joined May 2010
United States524 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 10:21:47
September 01 2012 10:19 GMT
#2815
You know, I try to give good advice to people starting out their WW Barbs, and I don't think I lead them wrong, but I feel like I'm stuck where I am, and I don't really know how to upgrade this stuff. I see profiles of WW Barbs who built completely different from me, but often have twice as much damage, and about the same survivability.

I tell people to shuffle the stats around on their gear to optimize stat/slot ratios, but I'm wondering if I'm somehow not following my own advice. Anyone see anything that stands out on this that perhaps I'm just blind to? Maybe it's just a matter of throwing more gold at it?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Sylvr-1850/hero/20429053

Edit: I just started farming A3, and it feels pretty good. I might die once or twice a run, but that's usually just carelessness or lag. Even so, I want higher numbers damnit!
Sylvr
Profile Joined May 2010
United States524 Posts
September 01 2012 10:44 GMT
#2816
Oh, and this is my friend's WW Barb that I walked him through building on a 6M budget... same DPS as me... which is another reason I feel like I'm doing something wrong, unless I just got a bunch of his gear really cheap. I straight gave him his second ring, so that doesn't count toward the budget.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/FillEffect-1451/hero/23587676
LingsAreBunnies
Profile Joined September 2011
United States103 Posts
September 01 2012 20:12 GMT
#2817
I replaced my weapons, and the difference was huge, even though my listed dps barely changed, it feels like my sprint damage went up by 60-70%.

Im wondering, what should I improve next? Im thinking of getting an andariels visage or a fire walkers, but Im not sure which one, and how much more durability I can afford to sacrifice. Budget is about 30m.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/INeedLings-1648/hero/3247163
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
September 01 2012 20:35 GMT
#2818
How long do you guys think weh can have our WW Barbs completely stomping this game and being the best farmers in the game? I think 1.0.5 will nerf Barbarians, what about you?
Bairemuth
Profile Joined June 2010
United States404 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 21:04:47
September 01 2012 20:47 GMT
#2819
Wow...so a couple days ago I asked for some advice as I hadn't played since 1.03 release...all I have to say is that this new WW/sprint barb is quite a bit of fun and easily stomps A3, it's hilarious actually. I spent roughly 15M on some upgrades and transformed my classic tanky barb (that CRAWLED through A3) to a crit producing machine. Today was the first time I've ever used the build, and after some practice in A1 for a bit, I went to A3 and crushed it with not a single death. Thank you to everyone who posts advice on here, it is so much appreciated!!!

Oh and kind of off topic, but have legendary drops increased? I got 2 ilvl 63 legendaries on my single A3 run today.

Finally, I'd like some advice on what slots I can improve for the biggest dps gain...preferrably the most cost effective. Also, are there specific legendaries that I should be considering?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Bairemuth-1169/hero/788725

I now have 47M to spend. Thank you Manticore!
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 21:05:28
September 01 2012 21:05 GMT
#2820
On September 02 2012 05:35 CruelZeratul wrote:
How long do you guys think weh can have our WW Barbs completely stomping this game and being the best farmers in the game? I think 1.0.5 will nerf Barbarians, what about you?

i dont think they will completely shut the build down. the only thing that is broken about the ww/sprint build imho is the possibility to get perma-wrath and thus perma-cc-immunity.
but even without that, the build is very strong.


and its not like other classes with good gear werent stomping the game just like we do. with ww/sprint , it might just be cheaper to reach this level. and sprint innately is an extremely good ability for speedfarming/-lvling. this cant be prevented without making sprint as a whole useless.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
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