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Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
May 04 2022 02:04 GMT
#81
On May 04 2022 10:40 Nambona890 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2022 05:32 Magic Powers wrote:
I have reliable trustmebro sources that Artosis is literally the only streamer who's being unfairly targeted by snipers and cheaters.

Never said he's the only one. But because of him being the most popular English Brood War streamer, he would get a much larger amount of them than others would.


I agree, Artosis is by far the biggest of all the horribly mistreated streaming victims out there. I weep for him, and we must assure that the folk know of his plights.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43934 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-04 07:13:23
May 04 2022 02:51 GMT
#82
Earlier on my stream tonight I went 4-0 against a 2480 Terran and he disconnected each time. Got zero points for it. That's just the ladder experience
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1474355289?t=00h41m18s

I also took a big hit when I left vs Dandy because it was tr10high and we didn’t want to play.

Your MMR is your MMR, everyone has a story about bnet cheating them out of MMR and none of the stories are special. Everyone deals with the same shit.
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barcodejester
Profile Joined March 2022
52 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-04 03:26:27
May 04 2022 03:26 GMT
#83
you can crush interceptors with buildings. ebays are the counter to carriers
KingDweeb1
Profile Joined July 2021
3 Posts
May 04 2022 05:07 GMT
#84
On May 04 2022 12:26 barcodejester wrote:
you can crush interceptors with buildings. ebays are the counter to carriers


If only there were any buildable terrain where you'd want to fight. Maps have been carefully crafted to prevent this strat, there's basically nowhere buildable outside of your bases and when they see ebays flying in they just turn around and go somewhere else.
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway764 Posts
May 04 2022 05:33 GMT
#85
Does that still work? Thought that was fixed some time ago?
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3153 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-04 11:17:07
May 04 2022 11:10 GMT
#86
On May 04 2022 10:53 honorablemacroterran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2022 08:32 TMNT wrote:
On May 04 2022 07:55 honorablemacroterran wrote:
On May 03 2022 08:59 TMNT wrote:
On May 02 2022 05:14 honorablemacroterran wrote:
It sounds like you decided to make yourself a villain because he did his usual post-loss bitching that he does on every stream against every opponent and it offended your narcissism so you decided to streamsnipe him and are now acting surprised that people think it was bad behavior. So are we supposed to take it that if you complain about your opponent that justifies them streamsniping you going forward?

Lol, so what on earth justifies Artosis's bm almost every game? Insulting his opponents, calling them stupid, morons, apes, fuck this fuck that... How come you don't see the problems with the guy bitching after every game, but instead attribute narcissism to the guy who feels offended by that.

Stream sniping is in fact the softest "punishment" Artosis can have for his toxic behavior. What does he have to endure lol? Playing (and losing, in a fair manner) a Starcraft game. Imagine behaving like that in a LAN setting, soon somebody will smash a keyboard into his head and everyone will kinda agree he deserves that.

The other day after losing a "lag" game against a BSL fella, Artosis then proceeded to call BSL a "lagging shitshow". Yep, that's the kind of respect he has for the foreign community. If he gets banished from SC altogether, I'd say he deserves it.



Yeah believe me I didn't post in this thread to whiteknight for Artosis, he can certainly improve. I posted in this thread because I think people who get offended by his act are rubbish and the king of them all is Kwark.

I'd like to know what kind of logic you're using to judge people.
+ Man who insults everything everyone that he doesn't like = can improve.
+ People who get offended by said man = narcissism and rubbish.



Artosis knows he's an entertainer, but you take the bombast seriously and act sanctimoniously in response. Also, there's a big difference between talking shit and streamsniping someone. Talking shit is easily ignored. I was talking about his gameplay, by the way, not his general behavior on stream. His content is top notch and brings laughter to thousands on a daily basis even if his play isn't exceptionally good.

Dude you keep downplaying the toxicity of Artosis's behavior on stream. Can improve? Bombast? Lmao. On the other hand how come you use all kinds of negative terms to describe people who get offended by him? Such fanboyism at its finest.

Let's face the truth here: he's a dick on stream. Yeah he's an entertainer. But being an entertainer doesn't give you the right to shit on everyone. I do find some of his stuff is funny, but there must be a line somewhere.

And lmao at talking shit is easily ignored. Yeah, because you are the one doing the shit talking. So after I insult someone I'll just advise them to ignore it. Yep, it works like that. Easy peasy. I insult you because I'm an entertainer ans I'm allowed to, and if you feel offended it's because you're rubbish people. Hahahaha. Stop riding his dick dude.

Plus I'd also like to know the mental struggle of being stream sniped. So you hit the queue button on ladder and you play a game of Starcraft, with or without knowing that the opponent was deliberately trying to match you. You win the game if you're better and lose if you're worse. Just like every other game. Hmm I can't imagine the trauma such experience gives. Must be tough man. Must be tough.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4253 Posts
May 04 2022 12:35 GMT
#87
On May 04 2022 20:10 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2022 10:53 honorablemacroterran wrote:
On May 04 2022 08:32 TMNT wrote:
On May 04 2022 07:55 honorablemacroterran wrote:
On May 03 2022 08:59 TMNT wrote:
On May 02 2022 05:14 honorablemacroterran wrote:
It sounds like you decided to make yourself a villain because he did his usual post-loss bitching that he does on every stream against every opponent and it offended your narcissism so you decided to streamsnipe him and are now acting surprised that people think it was bad behavior. So are we supposed to take it that if you complain about your opponent that justifies them streamsniping you going forward?

Lol, so what on earth justifies Artosis's bm almost every game? Insulting his opponents, calling them stupid, morons, apes, fuck this fuck that... How come you don't see the problems with the guy bitching after every game, but instead attribute narcissism to the guy who feels offended by that.

Stream sniping is in fact the softest "punishment" Artosis can have for his toxic behavior. What does he have to endure lol? Playing (and losing, in a fair manner) a Starcraft game. Imagine behaving like that in a LAN setting, soon somebody will smash a keyboard into his head and everyone will kinda agree he deserves that.

The other day after losing a "lag" game against a BSL fella, Artosis then proceeded to call BSL a "lagging shitshow". Yep, that's the kind of respect he has for the foreign community. If he gets banished from SC altogether, I'd say he deserves it.



Yeah believe me I didn't post in this thread to whiteknight for Artosis, he can certainly improve. I posted in this thread because I think people who get offended by his act are rubbish and the king of them all is Kwark.

I'd like to know what kind of logic you're using to judge people.
+ Man who insults everything everyone that he doesn't like = can improve.
+ People who get offended by said man = narcissism and rubbish.



Artosis knows he's an entertainer, but you take the bombast seriously and act sanctimoniously in response. Also, there's a big difference between talking shit and streamsniping someone. Talking shit is easily ignored. I was talking about his gameplay, by the way, not his general behavior on stream. His content is top notch and brings laughter to thousands on a daily basis even if his play isn't exceptionally good.

Dude you keep downplaying the toxicity of Artosis's behavior on stream. Can improve? Bombast? Lmao. On the other hand how come you use all kinds of negative terms to describe people who get offended by him? Such fanboyism at its finest.

Let's face the truth here: he's a dick on stream. Yeah he's an entertainer. But being an entertainer doesn't give you the right to shit on everyone. I do find some of his stuff is funny, but there must be a line somewhere.

And lmao at talking shit is easily ignored. Yeah, because you are the one doing the shit talking. So after I insult someone I'll just advise them to ignore it. Yep, it works like that. Easy peasy. I insult you because I'm an entertainer ans I'm allowed to, and if you feel offended it's because you're rubbish people. Hahahaha. Stop riding his dick dude.

Plus I'd also like to know the mental struggle of being stream sniped. So you hit the queue button on ladder and you play a game of Starcraft, with or without knowing that the opponent was deliberately trying to match you. You win the game if you're better and lose if you're worse. Just like every other game. Hmm I can't imagine the trauma such experience gives. Must be tough man. Must be tough.

fantastic post
honorablemacroterran
Profile Joined January 2022
188 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-04 13:39:34
May 04 2022 13:22 GMT
#88
On May 04 2022 20:10 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2022 10:53 honorablemacroterran wrote:
On May 04 2022 08:32 TMNT wrote:
On May 04 2022 07:55 honorablemacroterran wrote:
On May 03 2022 08:59 TMNT wrote:
On May 02 2022 05:14 honorablemacroterran wrote:
It sounds like you decided to make yourself a villain because he did his usual post-loss bitching that he does on every stream against every opponent and it offended your narcissism so you decided to streamsnipe him and are now acting surprised that people think it was bad behavior. So are we supposed to take it that if you complain about your opponent that justifies them streamsniping you going forward?

Lol, so what on earth justifies Artosis's bm almost every game? Insulting his opponents, calling them stupid, morons, apes, fuck this fuck that... How come you don't see the problems with the guy bitching after every game, but instead attribute narcissism to the guy who feels offended by that.

Stream sniping is in fact the softest "punishment" Artosis can have for his toxic behavior. What does he have to endure lol? Playing (and losing, in a fair manner) a Starcraft game. Imagine behaving like that in a LAN setting, soon somebody will smash a keyboard into his head and everyone will kinda agree he deserves that.

The other day after losing a "lag" game against a BSL fella, Artosis then proceeded to call BSL a "lagging shitshow". Yep, that's the kind of respect he has for the foreign community. If he gets banished from SC altogether, I'd say he deserves it.



Yeah believe me I didn't post in this thread to whiteknight for Artosis, he can certainly improve. I posted in this thread because I think people who get offended by his act are rubbish and the king of them all is Kwark.

I'd like to know what kind of logic you're using to judge people.
+ Man who insults everything everyone that he doesn't like = can improve.
+ People who get offended by said man = narcissism and rubbish.



Artosis knows he's an entertainer, but you take the bombast seriously and act sanctimoniously in response. Also, there's a big difference between talking shit and streamsniping someone. Talking shit is easily ignored. I was talking about his gameplay, by the way, not his general behavior on stream. His content is top notch and brings laughter to thousands on a daily basis even if his play isn't exceptionally good.

Dude you keep downplaying the toxicity of Artosis's behavior on stream. Can improve? Bombast? Lmao. On the other hand how come you use all kinds of negative terms to describe people who get offended by him? Such fanboyism at its finest.

Let's face the truth here: he's a dick on stream. Yeah he's an entertainer. But being an entertainer doesn't give you the right to shit on everyone. I do find some of his stuff is funny, but there must be a line somewhere.

And lmao at talking shit is easily ignored. Yeah, because you are the one doing the shit talking. So after I insult someone I'll just advise them to ignore it. Yep, it works like that. Easy peasy. I insult you because I'm an entertainer ans I'm allowed to, and if you feel offended it's because you're rubbish people. Hahahaha. Stop riding his dick dude.

Plus I'd also like to know the mental struggle of being stream sniped. So you hit the queue button on ladder and you play a game of Starcraft, with or without knowing that the opponent was deliberately trying to match you. You win the game if you're better and lose if you're worse. Just like every other game. Hmm I can't imagine the trauma such experience gives. Must be tough man. Must be tough.


You must absolutely hate stand-up comedy then. If you can't ignore people whom you don't respect talking shit then you might just be a narcissist after all. Your post sounds like you are on the verge of tears over a guy who rages every stream. Part of growing up is learning to ignore people who aggravate you when you pay attention to them but you don't have to pay attention to them if you don't want to.
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
May 04 2022 15:08 GMT
#89
On May 04 2022 14:33 Timebon3s wrote:
Does that still work? Thought that was fixed some time ago?


Plenty of bugs still working, thats one of em.
-.-
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3153 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-04 15:28:57
May 04 2022 15:27 GMT
#90
On May 04 2022 22:22 honorablemacroterran wrote:
You must absolutely hate stand-up comedy then. If you can't ignore people whom you don't respect talking shit then you might just be a narcissist after all. Your post sounds like you are on the verge of tears over a guy who rages every stream. Part of growing up is learning to ignore people who aggravate you when you pay attention to them but you don't have to pay attention to them if you don't want to.

Lmao. Look at this hypocrite, everybody! Accusing people of narcissism, telling them to ignore people who talk shit because it's a grown-up thing. Yet he's here digging up an old post on reddit to accuse Kwark of dishonesty and toxicity (which is proven false already).

And to be clear, ignore is an option, not an obligation. If you talk shit, people have the right to criticize you, or even taking action against you. I'm surprised a "grown-up" like you is not aware of such an obvious concept.

You're just pretending to be a noble man because you are taking the side of the person who talks shit, my friend. Of course when you are the one at fault, your advice would be for people to let you get away lololol.
honorablemacroterran
Profile Joined January 2022
188 Posts
May 04 2022 15:55 GMT
#91
On May 05 2022 00:27 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2022 22:22 honorablemacroterran wrote:
You must absolutely hate stand-up comedy then. If you can't ignore people whom you don't respect talking shit then you might just be a narcissist after all. Your post sounds like you are on the verge of tears over a guy who rages every stream. Part of growing up is learning to ignore people who aggravate you when you pay attention to them but you don't have to pay attention to them if you don't want to.

Lmao. Look at this hypocrite, everybody! Accusing people of narcissism, telling them to ignore people who talk shit because it's a grown-up thing. Yet he's here digging up an old post on reddit to accuse Kwark of dishonesty and toxicity (which is proven false already).

And to be clear, ignore is an option, not an obligation. If you talk shit, people have the right to criticize you, or even taking action against you. I'm surprised a "grown-up" like you is not aware of such an obvious concept.

You're just pretending to be a noble man because you are taking the side of the person who talks shit, my friend. Of course when you are the one at fault, your advice would be for people to let you get away lololol.


Of course people have a right to criticize Artosis but you sound like a crybaby if he actually offends you given what a clownshow his stream is.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
May 04 2022 16:13 GMT
#92
How did a thread go from factually debunking one of many Artosis bullshit claims to this?

The power of braindead toxic fanboys of a toxic person I guess. Excuses are made for Artosis being toxic, excuses are made for his fanboys targeting another player that Artosis has directed his fanboys towards (to be fair Kwark is an egotistical cretin, but in this case it really isn't his fault), but somehow it is the victim's fault for getting shit on by fans coming out of the woodwork and people who deplore such behaviour are the ones at fault? Such double standards.

Also got to laugh at the people saying Artosis being top 5 foreigner terran. He's really 2600 not 2200 because cheaters. Yeah sure, you and everyone else at 2200. What are the actual 2600 then?
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
May 04 2022 16:21 GMT
#93
On May 04 2022 22:22 honorablemacroterran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2022 20:10 TMNT wrote:
On May 04 2022 10:53 honorablemacroterran wrote:
On May 04 2022 08:32 TMNT wrote:
On May 04 2022 07:55 honorablemacroterran wrote:
On May 03 2022 08:59 TMNT wrote:
On May 02 2022 05:14 honorablemacroterran wrote:
It sounds like you decided to make yourself a villain because he did his usual post-loss bitching that he does on every stream against every opponent and it offended your narcissism so you decided to streamsnipe him and are now acting surprised that people think it was bad behavior. So are we supposed to take it that if you complain about your opponent that justifies them streamsniping you going forward?

Lol, so what on earth justifies Artosis's bm almost every game? Insulting his opponents, calling them stupid, morons, apes, fuck this fuck that... How come you don't see the problems with the guy bitching after every game, but instead attribute narcissism to the guy who feels offended by that.

Stream sniping is in fact the softest "punishment" Artosis can have for his toxic behavior. What does he have to endure lol? Playing (and losing, in a fair manner) a Starcraft game. Imagine behaving like that in a LAN setting, soon somebody will smash a keyboard into his head and everyone will kinda agree he deserves that.

The other day after losing a "lag" game against a BSL fella, Artosis then proceeded to call BSL a "lagging shitshow". Yep, that's the kind of respect he has for the foreign community. If he gets banished from SC altogether, I'd say he deserves it.



Yeah believe me I didn't post in this thread to whiteknight for Artosis, he can certainly improve. I posted in this thread because I think people who get offended by his act are rubbish and the king of them all is Kwark.

I'd like to know what kind of logic you're using to judge people.
+ Man who insults everything everyone that he doesn't like = can improve.
+ People who get offended by said man = narcissism and rubbish.



Artosis knows he's an entertainer, but you take the bombast seriously and act sanctimoniously in response. Also, there's a big difference between talking shit and streamsniping someone. Talking shit is easily ignored. I was talking about his gameplay, by the way, not his general behavior on stream. His content is top notch and brings laughter to thousands on a daily basis even if his play isn't exceptionally good.

Dude you keep downplaying the toxicity of Artosis's behavior on stream. Can improve? Bombast? Lmao. On the other hand how come you use all kinds of negative terms to describe people who get offended by him? Such fanboyism at its finest.

Let's face the truth here: he's a dick on stream. Yeah he's an entertainer. But being an entertainer doesn't give you the right to shit on everyone. I do find some of his stuff is funny, but there must be a line somewhere.

And lmao at talking shit is easily ignored. Yeah, because you are the one doing the shit talking. So after I insult someone I'll just advise them to ignore it. Yep, it works like that. Easy peasy. I insult you because I'm an entertainer ans I'm allowed to, and if you feel offended it's because you're rubbish people. Hahahaha. Stop riding his dick dude.

Plus I'd also like to know the mental struggle of being stream sniped. So you hit the queue button on ladder and you play a game of Starcraft, with or without knowing that the opponent was deliberately trying to match you. You win the game if you're better and lose if you're worse. Just like every other game. Hmm I can't imagine the trauma such experience gives. Must be tough man. Must be tough.


You must absolutely hate stand-up comedy then. If you can't ignore people whom you don't respect talking shit then you might just be a narcissist after all. Your post sounds like you are on the verge of tears over a guy who rages every stream. Part of growing up is learning to ignore people who aggravate you when you pay attention to them but you don't have to pay attention to them if you don't want to.


I vividly remember the last stand-up comedy routine that I went to. Was a funny dude. Towards the end of his show he invited me to the stage. I felt honored, so my legs carried me through the rows of seats. As I stood a few feet next to the brilliant man, he asked me how my day was. I said I was great, and that I had just been promoted a day earlier. Suddenly his face appeared to crumple as he had a slightly annoyed look on his face. In front of the large audience he said to me words that I'll never forget because they were so funny: 'your game is weak, you'll never amount to anything and you should be ranked much lower with your horrible work ethic'. There was little laughter, but the audience seemed almost as stunned as I was. There I was, being given the honor of being taught the great comedy that was my life by a great comedian. A few people threw cash onto the stage. I think moments before the show ended I saw Mario enter the hall. After one last sip from my drink I left for home. I'll never forget this great day, it was hilarious and also full of wisdom. What a great guy, he'll go on to be a big name beloved by everyone.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43934 Posts
May 04 2022 16:31 GMT
#94
On May 05 2022 00:55 honorablemacroterran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2022 00:27 TMNT wrote:
On May 04 2022 22:22 honorablemacroterran wrote:
You must absolutely hate stand-up comedy then. If you can't ignore people whom you don't respect talking shit then you might just be a narcissist after all. Your post sounds like you are on the verge of tears over a guy who rages every stream. Part of growing up is learning to ignore people who aggravate you when you pay attention to them but you don't have to pay attention to them if you don't want to.

Lmao. Look at this hypocrite, everybody! Accusing people of narcissism, telling them to ignore people who talk shit because it's a grown-up thing. Yet he's here digging up an old post on reddit to accuse Kwark of dishonesty and toxicity (which is proven false already).

And to be clear, ignore is an option, not an obligation. If you talk shit, people have the right to criticize you, or even taking action against you. I'm surprised a "grown-up" like you is not aware of such an obvious concept.

You're just pretending to be a noble man because you are taking the side of the person who talks shit, my friend. Of course when you are the one at fault, your advice would be for people to let you get away lololol.


Of course people have a right to criticize Artosis but you sound like a crybaby if he actually offends you given what a clownshow his stream is.

For context, he invented an entire backstory for the supposed grudge and some of his viewers who can’t tell the difference between entertainment and reality started messaging me shit on Reddit and TL (though that was a while ago and I think he’s been better about the egregious lies lately). When he has a platform as big as his the lies do actually impact people. I have weird Reddit stalkers like this lunatic because of the shit Artosis made up about me.
https://m.imgur.com/a/LWu6Xqe
https://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/comments/kbmdil/comment/gfn8bfc/

Bizarre stuff given that I don’t have multiple children, have no webcam, and that regular viewers will know from my work stories that I am absolutely killing it professionally.

He hasn’t made up any new lies about me lately as far as I know but it sure would be nice if he clarified to the minority of his viewers who are insane that it’s entertainment and shouldn’t be taken seriously. If he also told them that I apologized to him for the sniping, that there’s no evidence that I ever cheated against him, that I made repeated offers to avoid each other, that I voluntarily left when he accepted that deal, and that he’s the one that broke it then that’d be great.

His stream is funny and I’m glad he’s able to make a living from bw. He’s undeniably done a lot for the community over the years. It’s regrettable that things worked out the way they did because when I came back to bw in 2020 I subscribed to his stream and was a fan. The problem is that topics like this even get made when his stream is entertainment, not an impartial overview on bw. He’s so successful that the cultivated toxicity of his stream bleeds out into the wider community as hate for certain players, races, play styles etc.
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BoxTrade
Profile Joined May 2022
21 Posts
May 04 2022 18:12 GMT
#95
On May 05 2022 01:31 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2022 00:55 honorablemacroterran wrote:
On May 05 2022 00:27 TMNT wrote:
On May 04 2022 22:22 honorablemacroterran wrote:
You must absolutely hate stand-up comedy then. If you can't ignore people whom you don't respect talking shit then you might just be a narcissist after all. Your post sounds like you are on the verge of tears over a guy who rages every stream. Part of growing up is learning to ignore people who aggravate you when you pay attention to them but you don't have to pay attention to them if you don't want to.

Lmao. Look at this hypocrite, everybody! Accusing people of narcissism, telling them to ignore people who talk shit because it's a grown-up thing. Yet he's here digging up an old post on reddit to accuse Kwark of dishonesty and toxicity (which is proven false already).

And to be clear, ignore is an option, not an obligation. If you talk shit, people have the right to criticize you, or even taking action against you. I'm surprised a "grown-up" like you is not aware of such an obvious concept.

You're just pretending to be a noble man because you are taking the side of the person who talks shit, my friend. Of course when you are the one at fault, your advice would be for people to let you get away lololol.


Of course people have a right to criticize Artosis but you sound like a crybaby if he actually offends you given what a clownshow his stream is.

For context, he invented an entire backstory for the supposed grudge and some of his viewers who can’t tell the difference between entertainment and reality started messaging me shit on Reddit and TL (though that was a while ago and I think he’s been better about the egregious lies lately). When he has a platform as big as his the lies do actually impact people. I have weird Reddit stalkers like this lunatic because of the shit Artosis made up about me.
https://m.imgur.com/a/LWu6Xqe
https://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/comments/kbmdil/comment/gfn8bfc/

Bizarre stuff given that I don’t have multiple children, have no webcam, and that regular viewers will know from my work stories that I am absolutely killing it professionally.

He hasn’t made up any new lies about me lately as far as I know but it sure would be nice if he clarified to the minority of his viewers who are insane that it’s entertainment and shouldn’t be taken seriously. If he also told them that I apologized to him for the sniping, that there’s no evidence that I ever cheated against him, that I made repeated offers to avoid each other, that I voluntarily left when he accepted that deal, and that he’s the one that broke it then that’d be great.

His stream is funny and I’m glad he’s able to make a living from bw. He’s undeniably done a lot for the community over the years. It’s regrettable that things worked out the way they did because when I came back to bw in 2020 I subscribed to his stream and was a fan. The problem is that topics like this even get made when his stream is entertainment, not an impartial overview on bw. He’s so successful that the cultivated toxicity of his stream bleeds out into the wider community as hate for certain players, races, play styles etc.


Why do you always have to constantly remind people how successful and hard working you all the time? It is extremely egotistical.

Artosis shit on you because you always streamed sniped and trolled him. Until that, I do not think I had ever heard of you before, except maybe once or twice of people noting your low apm compared to your mmr. You keep acting as though you are a victim when you are also absolutely an agitator as well. You pop in constantly in random threads to bash on artosis and then complain when him and his fans do not like you.

As for hating certain races and playstyles, based on reading TL people have hated brood war protoss for a VERY long time. People thinking protoss is easy and that PvT is unfair is not some artosis creation, and people disliking cheese is basically in every RTS game since the begging.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
May 04 2022 18:37 GMT
#96
TIL if I hate a certain strat that my opponent plays that gives me license to send verbal abuse towards them and I should not be criticized for that behavior even if I do it almost every time.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
honorablemacroterran
Profile Joined January 2022
188 Posts
May 04 2022 18:48 GMT
#97
On May 05 2022 01:21 Magic Powers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2022 22:22 honorablemacroterran wrote:
On May 04 2022 20:10 TMNT wrote:
On May 04 2022 10:53 honorablemacroterran wrote:
On May 04 2022 08:32 TMNT wrote:
On May 04 2022 07:55 honorablemacroterran wrote:
On May 03 2022 08:59 TMNT wrote:
On May 02 2022 05:14 honorablemacroterran wrote:
It sounds like you decided to make yourself a villain because he did his usual post-loss bitching that he does on every stream against every opponent and it offended your narcissism so you decided to streamsnipe him and are now acting surprised that people think it was bad behavior. So are we supposed to take it that if you complain about your opponent that justifies them streamsniping you going forward?

Lol, so what on earth justifies Artosis's bm almost every game? Insulting his opponents, calling them stupid, morons, apes, fuck this fuck that... How come you don't see the problems with the guy bitching after every game, but instead attribute narcissism to the guy who feels offended by that.

Stream sniping is in fact the softest "punishment" Artosis can have for his toxic behavior. What does he have to endure lol? Playing (and losing, in a fair manner) a Starcraft game. Imagine behaving like that in a LAN setting, soon somebody will smash a keyboard into his head and everyone will kinda agree he deserves that.

The other day after losing a "lag" game against a BSL fella, Artosis then proceeded to call BSL a "lagging shitshow". Yep, that's the kind of respect he has for the foreign community. If he gets banished from SC altogether, I'd say he deserves it.



Yeah believe me I didn't post in this thread to whiteknight for Artosis, he can certainly improve. I posted in this thread because I think people who get offended by his act are rubbish and the king of them all is Kwark.

I'd like to know what kind of logic you're using to judge people.
+ Man who insults everything everyone that he doesn't like = can improve.
+ People who get offended by said man = narcissism and rubbish.



Artosis knows he's an entertainer, but you take the bombast seriously and act sanctimoniously in response. Also, there's a big difference between talking shit and streamsniping someone. Talking shit is easily ignored. I was talking about his gameplay, by the way, not his general behavior on stream. His content is top notch and brings laughter to thousands on a daily basis even if his play isn't exceptionally good.

Dude you keep downplaying the toxicity of Artosis's behavior on stream. Can improve? Bombast? Lmao. On the other hand how come you use all kinds of negative terms to describe people who get offended by him? Such fanboyism at its finest.

Let's face the truth here: he's a dick on stream. Yeah he's an entertainer. But being an entertainer doesn't give you the right to shit on everyone. I do find some of his stuff is funny, but there must be a line somewhere.

And lmao at talking shit is easily ignored. Yeah, because you are the one doing the shit talking. So after I insult someone I'll just advise them to ignore it. Yep, it works like that. Easy peasy. I insult you because I'm an entertainer ans I'm allowed to, and if you feel offended it's because you're rubbish people. Hahahaha. Stop riding his dick dude.

Plus I'd also like to know the mental struggle of being stream sniped. So you hit the queue button on ladder and you play a game of Starcraft, with or without knowing that the opponent was deliberately trying to match you. You win the game if you're better and lose if you're worse. Just like every other game. Hmm I can't imagine the trauma such experience gives. Must be tough man. Must be tough.


You must absolutely hate stand-up comedy then. If you can't ignore people whom you don't respect talking shit then you might just be a narcissist after all. Your post sounds like you are on the verge of tears over a guy who rages every stream. Part of growing up is learning to ignore people who aggravate you when you pay attention to them but you don't have to pay attention to them if you don't want to.


I vividly remember the last stand-up comedy routine that I went to. Was a funny dude. Towards the end of his show he invited me to the stage. I felt honored, so my legs carried me through the rows of seats. As I stood a few feet next to the brilliant man, he asked me how my day was. I said I was great, and that I had just been promoted a day earlier. Suddenly his face appeared to crumple as he had a slightly annoyed look on his face. In front of the large audience he said to me words that I'll never forget because they were so funny: 'your game is weak, you'll never amount to anything and you should be ranked much lower with your horrible work ethic'. There was little laughter, but the audience seemed almost as stunned as I was. There I was, being given the honor of being taught the great comedy that was my life by a great comedian. A few people threw cash onto the stage. I think moments before the show ended I saw Mario enter the hall. After one last sip from my drink I left for home. I'll never forget this great day, it was hilarious and also full of wisdom. What a great guy, he'll go on to be a big name beloved by everyone.


I think you might be missing or just in general don't appreciate what this sort of humor is. The humor is watching him get into such a state over a little casual ladder action. That's why his viewers bombard him with troll donations even in the middle of games he is losing. It's not that he's telling jokes per se like a standup comedian would. The similarity is that in both cases, stand-up comedians and Artosis, they direct mean words at people for the sake of humor and they shouldn't be taken seriously.
honorablemacroterran
Profile Joined January 2022
188 Posts
May 04 2022 18:51 GMT
#98
On May 05 2022 03:37 Magic Powers wrote:
TIL if I hate a certain strat that my opponent plays that gives me license to send verbal abuse towards them and I should not be criticized for that behavior even if I do it almost every time.


If you are a Protoss player I would have thought you would find his rage even funnier, seeing as it's ultimately impotent and you can continue to play how you like.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3153 Posts
May 04 2022 19:05 GMT
#99
On May 05 2022 03:48 honorablemacroterran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2022 01:21 Magic Powers wrote:
On May 04 2022 22:22 honorablemacroterran wrote:
On May 04 2022 20:10 TMNT wrote:
On May 04 2022 10:53 honorablemacroterran wrote:
On May 04 2022 08:32 TMNT wrote:
On May 04 2022 07:55 honorablemacroterran wrote:
On May 03 2022 08:59 TMNT wrote:
On May 02 2022 05:14 honorablemacroterran wrote:
It sounds like you decided to make yourself a villain because he did his usual post-loss bitching that he does on every stream against every opponent and it offended your narcissism so you decided to streamsnipe him and are now acting surprised that people think it was bad behavior. So are we supposed to take it that if you complain about your opponent that justifies them streamsniping you going forward?

Lol, so what on earth justifies Artosis's bm almost every game? Insulting his opponents, calling them stupid, morons, apes, fuck this fuck that... How come you don't see the problems with the guy bitching after every game, but instead attribute narcissism to the guy who feels offended by that.

Stream sniping is in fact the softest "punishment" Artosis can have for his toxic behavior. What does he have to endure lol? Playing (and losing, in a fair manner) a Starcraft game. Imagine behaving like that in a LAN setting, soon somebody will smash a keyboard into his head and everyone will kinda agree he deserves that.

The other day after losing a "lag" game against a BSL fella, Artosis then proceeded to call BSL a "lagging shitshow". Yep, that's the kind of respect he has for the foreign community. If he gets banished from SC altogether, I'd say he deserves it.



Yeah believe me I didn't post in this thread to whiteknight for Artosis, he can certainly improve. I posted in this thread because I think people who get offended by his act are rubbish and the king of them all is Kwark.

I'd like to know what kind of logic you're using to judge people.
+ Man who insults everything everyone that he doesn't like = can improve.
+ People who get offended by said man = narcissism and rubbish.



Artosis knows he's an entertainer, but you take the bombast seriously and act sanctimoniously in response. Also, there's a big difference between talking shit and streamsniping someone. Talking shit is easily ignored. I was talking about his gameplay, by the way, not his general behavior on stream. His content is top notch and brings laughter to thousands on a daily basis even if his play isn't exceptionally good.

Dude you keep downplaying the toxicity of Artosis's behavior on stream. Can improve? Bombast? Lmao. On the other hand how come you use all kinds of negative terms to describe people who get offended by him? Such fanboyism at its finest.

Let's face the truth here: he's a dick on stream. Yeah he's an entertainer. But being an entertainer doesn't give you the right to shit on everyone. I do find some of his stuff is funny, but there must be a line somewhere.

And lmao at talking shit is easily ignored. Yeah, because you are the one doing the shit talking. So after I insult someone I'll just advise them to ignore it. Yep, it works like that. Easy peasy. I insult you because I'm an entertainer ans I'm allowed to, and if you feel offended it's because you're rubbish people. Hahahaha. Stop riding his dick dude.

Plus I'd also like to know the mental struggle of being stream sniped. So you hit the queue button on ladder and you play a game of Starcraft, with or without knowing that the opponent was deliberately trying to match you. You win the game if you're better and lose if you're worse. Just like every other game. Hmm I can't imagine the trauma such experience gives. Must be tough man. Must be tough.


You must absolutely hate stand-up comedy then. If you can't ignore people whom you don't respect talking shit then you might just be a narcissist after all. Your post sounds like you are on the verge of tears over a guy who rages every stream. Part of growing up is learning to ignore people who aggravate you when you pay attention to them but you don't have to pay attention to them if you don't want to.


I vividly remember the last stand-up comedy routine that I went to. Was a funny dude. Towards the end of his show he invited me to the stage. I felt honored, so my legs carried me through the rows of seats. As I stood a few feet next to the brilliant man, he asked me how my day was. I said I was great, and that I had just been promoted a day earlier. Suddenly his face appeared to crumple as he had a slightly annoyed look on his face. In front of the large audience he said to me words that I'll never forget because they were so funny: 'your game is weak, you'll never amount to anything and you should be ranked much lower with your horrible work ethic'. There was little laughter, but the audience seemed almost as stunned as I was. There I was, being given the honor of being taught the great comedy that was my life by a great comedian. A few people threw cash onto the stage. I think moments before the show ended I saw Mario enter the hall. After one last sip from my drink I left for home. I'll never forget this great day, it was hilarious and also full of wisdom. What a great guy, he'll go on to be a big name beloved by everyone.


I think you might be missing or just in general don't appreciate what this sort of humor is. The humor is watching him get into such a state over a little casual ladder action. That's why his viewers bombard him with troll donations even in the middle of games he is losing. It's not that he's telling jokes per se like a standup comedian would. The similarity is that in both cases, stand-up comedians and Artosis, they direct mean words at people for the sake of humor and they shouldn't be taken seriously.

Fyi, I love stand up comedy and I struggle to find the similarity between a good stand-up comedian and Artosis.

For once, a comedian tell jokes, but the joke shouldn't be offensive, racist or sexist, or he's considered a bad comedian.
Artosis just rages, and offensive is an understatement because on many occasion he just shout "fuck you moron" or something like that to the screen. Please find me a stand-up comedian who does that on EVERY SINGLE show.

Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway764 Posts
May 04 2022 19:51 GMT
#100
I don’t think a comedian is considered bad if his jokes are offensive, sexist or racist.
There are plenty who are many of those things and still funny as hell, at least in my opinion.
Like Frankie Boyle, Jimmy Carr, Chapelle or Bill Burr.
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