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MeSaber
Sweden1235 Posts
Why would someone on a LAN behave like this without a crowd. Edit: Oh and im totally ok with him calling me a loser for showing him hes wrong. Its entertainment for his simps. I dont agree that he said TLnet is a bad place though. This is the place to be for SC:R content. There is no other place. Unless ure a Korean ofc. | ||
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Timebon3s
Norway751 Posts
People aren’t hosting it for money, it’s just passion and love for the game that makes people work hard for it. He of everyone should respect that, and on top of that, if you’re sitting in Korea and playing foreigners all over the world, you gotta expect SOME lag. He shouldn’t be banned for all of sc though that’s just crazy. Watching the tasteless lan now, and it looks like Artosis is genuinely enjoying himself and having a good time. Hard to think is stream person is legitimate… still he is like the ambassador of foreign SC so it hurts to see him shit all over the game and give the impression of being a 10 year old raging faggot tbh. | ||
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Oystein
Norway1602 Posts
On May 03 2022 03:32 Timebon3s wrote: It is tasty drama thread, try contributing instead of whining plz. Is it true that buccaneers, the infamous Artosis nemesis is in fact Oystein? And why is he so much better than Artosis? Plz respond It is indeed me, dont think I deserve to be called infamous though. | ||
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Timebon3s
Norway751 Posts
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Nambona890
Australia32 Posts
On May 03 2022 22:40 Timebon3s wrote: Good job please keep it up, it is highly entertaining :D I mean, while his rage can be funny, there's also the undeniable fact that stream snipers, stream cheaters, and disconnect hackers tend to unfairly push him down from where his MMR should be at. | ||
KwarK
United States43350 Posts
On May 04 2022 00:31 Nambona890 wrote: I mean, while his rage can be funny, there's also the undeniable fact that stream snipers, stream cheaters, and disconnect hackers tend to unfairly push him down from where his MMR should be at. Everyone deals with smurfs and disc hackers etc. Watch any other streamer and you’ll see the same. If you were to remove that factor you’d still see him lose to higher MMR players because they’re better at Starcraft than him. It’s not like he’s a 2400 player who is somehow appearing to only have 2200 MMR. If he’s pushed down then everyone is. If he’s really 2400 then 2400s are really 2600, you have to throw out the whole frame of reference for his nonsense to stand up. His ladder experience is very similar to mine, the reason I’m higher is because I can reliably beat B Protoss. | ||
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Sva3
19 Posts
On May 04 2022 00:42 KwarK wrote: Everyone deals with smurfs and disc hackers etc. Watch any other streamer and you’ll see the same. If you were to remove that factor you’d still see him lose to higher MMR players because they’re better at Starcraft than him. It’s not like he’s a 2400 player who is somehow appearing to only have 2200 MMR. If he’s pushed down then everyone is. If he’s really 2400 then 2400s are really 2600, you have to throw out the whole frame of reference for his nonsense to stand up. His ladder experience is very similar to mine, the reason I’m higher is because I can reliably beat B Protoss. I'm not sure why you even bother responding to most of these people. Random nobodies that likely don't even play bw. | ||
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Nambona890
Australia32 Posts
On May 04 2022 00:42 KwarK wrote: Everyone deals with smurfs and disc hackers etc. Watch any other streamer and you’ll see the same. If you were to remove that factor you’d still see him lose to higher MMR players because they’re better at Starcraft than him. It’s not like he’s a 2400 player who is somehow appearing to only have 2200 MMR. If he’s pushed down then everyone is. If he’s really 2400 then 2400s are really 2600, you have to throw out the whole frame of reference for his nonsense to stand up. His ladder experience is very similar to mine, the reason I’m higher is because I can reliably beat B Protoss. >completely dodging the issue of stream snipers and stream cheaters why am i not surprised lmao | ||
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Timebon3s
Norway751 Posts
The smurfs and new accounts I can understand, however thats the same for everyone who plays on the ladder. The sniping is like one in a million. Few Koreans know or cares about Artosis, and let’s be honest, how many S rank foreign players do we have, and of how many do u think cheats on Artosis? | ||
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EndingLife
United States1598 Posts
On May 04 2022 00:42 KwarK wrote: Everyone deals with smurfs and disc hackers etc. Watch any other streamer and you’ll see the same. If you were to remove that factor you’d still see him lose to higher MMR players because they’re better at Starcraft than him. It’s not like he’s a 2400 player who is somehow appearing to only have 2200 MMR. If he’s pushed down then everyone is. If he’s really 2400 then 2400s are really 2600, you have to throw out the whole frame of reference for his nonsense to stand up. His ladder experience is very similar to mine, the reason I’m higher is because I can reliably beat B Protoss. Even without considering stream snipers, stream cheaters, hackers or discers, he's 'pushed down' far more than his average foreign counterpart. Korean's don't leave against him simply because he lags like they do EVERY other foreigner. Especially those from South America. Ladder inflation is real... | ||
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KwarK
United States43350 Posts
On May 04 2022 00:48 Nambona890 wrote: >completely dodging the issue of stream snipers and stream cheaters why am i not surprised lmao I think the snipers thing is massively over represented and again, I feel like I would know. I have never been invited to any secret sniper discord which implies that no such discord exists. I also know that I’m not sniping him because I’ve deliberately done my best to avoid him since the early days. That leaves mostly Oystein who has a job, a family, and is at a very unfriendly time zone for sniping. On any given day nobody anywhere is sniping him. I’ve also dealt with my fair share of snipers and stream cheaters. There was a recent PvP on eclipse where the guy opened by telling me he was watching my stream and then commented in chat telling me what I was doing while not scouting. It was obviously very frustrating, he went dt while going no detection at all because he knew I didn’t go dt which gave him a huge build order advantage. Anyway, I just won because if you’re a better player it doesn’t matter. | ||
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Ransgor
Kosovo9 Posts
On May 04 2022 01:13 Timebon3s wrote: Because he also is a streamer and suffers the same? The smurfs and new accounts I can understand, however thats the same for everyone who plays on the ladder. The sniping is like one in a million. Few Koreans know or cares about Artosis, and let’s be honest, how many S rank foreign players do we have, and of how many do u think cheats on Artosis? LOL Do you think someone wants to snipe Kwark?? There are a few semi-pro/pro Koreans that like to bash "low" rank people for content, but most of them just leave if the turn rate isn't 24. Artosis is the only well known streamer that suffers that. Nyoken too but now that he's in America again you can see on his streams that the Koreans just leave and his MMR is boosted a lot. | ||
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radley
Poland582 Posts
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KwarK
United States43350 Posts
Best non-Korean Terrans are, imo, Mihu, Dandy, Terror, Gypsy, Nyoken, Spx, Ultra, Mad, with honourable mention to Koget who is inactive and Goku, Maars, Cryoc and JY offracing. What’s your top 5? | ||
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Shinrei
United States241 Posts
On May 04 2022 04:08 radley wrote: Artosis is in my opinion at least top 5 foreign terran right now. Laugh it or not. His high A rank is more worth than Kwark's 2400 S given that fact who he plays against on ladder. And you can see that Arto can play a very good game facing high rank players in tournaments he is invited to. Both playing cheese and standard games. Preach | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
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honorablemacroterran
188 Posts
On May 03 2022 08:59 TMNT wrote: Lol, so what on earth justifies Artosis's bm almost every game? Insulting his opponents, calling them stupid, morons, apes, fuck this fuck that... How come you don't see the problems with the guy bitching after every game, but instead attribute narcissism to the guy who feels offended by that. Stream sniping is in fact the softest "punishment" Artosis can have for his toxic behavior. What does he have to endure lol? Playing (and losing, in a fair manner) a Starcraft game. Imagine behaving like that in a LAN setting, soon somebody will smash a keyboard into his head and everyone will kinda agree he deserves that. The other day after losing a "lag" game against a BSL fella, Artosis then proceeded to call BSL a "lagging shitshow". Yep, that's the kind of respect he has for the foreign community. If he gets banished from SC altogether, I'd say he deserves it. Yeah believe me I didn't post in this thread to whiteknight for Artosis, he can certainly improve. I posted in this thread because I think people who get offended by his act are rubbish and the king of them all is Kwark. | ||
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TMNT
3102 Posts
On May 04 2022 07:55 honorablemacroterran wrote: Yeah believe me I didn't post in this thread to whiteknight for Artosis, he can certainly improve. I posted in this thread because I think people who get offended by his act are rubbish and the king of them all is Kwark. I'd like to know what kind of logic you're using to judge people. + Man who insults everything everyone that he doesn't like = can improve. + People who get offended by said man = narcissism and rubbish. | ||
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Nambona890
Australia32 Posts
On May 04 2022 05:32 Magic Powers wrote: I have reliable trustmebro sources that Artosis is literally the only streamer who's being unfairly targeted by snipers and cheaters. Never said he's the only one. But because of him being the most popular English Brood War streamer, he would get a much larger amount of them than others would. | ||
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honorablemacroterran
188 Posts
On May 04 2022 08:32 TMNT wrote: I'd like to know what kind of logic you're using to judge people. + Man who insults everything everyone that he doesn't like = can improve. + People who get offended by said man = narcissism and rubbish. Artosis knows he's an entertainer, but you take the bombast seriously and act sanctimoniously in response. Also, there's a big difference between talking shit and streamsniping someone. Talking shit is easily ignored. I was talking about his gameplay, by the way, not his general behavior on stream. His content is top notch and brings laughter to thousands on a daily basis even if his play isn't exceptionally good. | ||
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