Debunking Artosis claims - Page 7

On May 06 2022 00:31 TT1 wrote:


it already reached a personal lvl for both of you so that's up to you to decide, it takes 2 to get there tho

On May 06 2022 01:16 Dangermousecatdog wrote:

This is a good example of double standards. Seems like to me you are taking it personally on behalf of Artosis.

On May 06 2022 02:48 TT1 wrote:
Yes and don't get me wrong, i'm not trying to justify the way he acts as being ok. From my POV i also don't like how he acts because i know how much time/effort he puts into getting better (he just ends up hurting himself), i respect that a lot about him. Seeing Artosis improve/succeed is good for the game, he's an important person for the scene (i'd argue the most important person ever for foreign SC).

But at the same time you have to put yourself in his shoes. He's not a progamer, once you're at that level there are certain things that you discover about yourself that allow you to act differently (that process takes a lot of discipline, especially for a game like BW). He's a 40 year old man with a family who has dedicated his life to SC, who puts himself out there for your viewing pleasure, to accomplish his own personal goals.

Yes he has flaws, yes many are gonna take issue with how he acts and how he's figured out to monetize it, this is all human nature. Ultimately none of this is any of our business tho, you shouldn't feel entitled to ask him to change himself because he doesn't meet your standards. You can either choose to be neutral, dislike or like him.. but you have to accept him for who he is. Everything else is really on him and his own goals, that's his prerogative.

And please remember, this is all coming from someone who Artosis had extreme dislike for back in the day, we both didn't like each other at all.

On May 06 2022 06:10 Magic Powers wrote:
Strangely everything you're accusing me of reminds me so much of Artosis.

On May 05 2022 15:25 TT1 wrote:


This is where me and you differ, i accept him for who he is, that's the starting point. Progress can't be made if you shut someone out. You don't know how much we've talked about this topic in the past, he's aware of everything you dislike about him. Not because he cares about what you think about him, because it hurts him as a competitor.

It's not easy to put yourself out there in front of thousands of people to see your competitive nature and have them judge your perceived flaws. The hard part is doing something about it, bettering yourself, using those same emotions (because everyone has them, if you don't think they do you haven't experienced true competition) in a more productive/constructive way, that's not an easy thing to do. He knows about all this and reads a lot on this topic as well. Like in SC, knowledge is only the first step, the execution is the hard part.

We all have completely different life experiences, you shouldn't be quick to judge/shoebox someone when you can't view their life from their perspective. The funny thing is, you're basically doing the same thing he does in-game, instead you're doing it to talk about his character on a chat forum. What you do is easy, I'm sure it feels gratifying too huh? Moral superiority.. even if it's at subconscious level.

Life lesson buddy, perspective matters a lot, more than anything else in the world tbh. If we can't understand each other we can't help one another. We end up hating each other instead. What we're talking about is childish baby shit compared to the atrocities going on in the world.

On May 06 2022 06:20 TT1 wrote:
And KwarK, we spoke about this yesterday privately. If you were actually ever serious about avoiding all the drama w/ him you know what the answer is.. and let's be real, you've always known.