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MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
April 30 2022 09:19 GMT
#21
@Kwark but just because ure a constant S rank holder doesnt mean you know everything about the game, you just know what you have to do to beat others, not how everything is implemented or works technically.

This is where Artosis is most funny. He THINKS he knows everything about the game as hes been in this game as long as he can remember but yeah obviously he dont.

Most of the time hes correct though. Which is expected from someone who been here that long
-.-
ggnore13
Profile Joined May 2015
54 Posts
April 30 2022 09:59 GMT
#22
On April 23 2022 19:13 kogeT wrote:
Try debunking that P is imba.


Light did that already. And if you wanna go into foreign scene Mihu also did
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway764 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-30 21:29:38
April 30 2022 21:23 GMT
#23
I know a lot of people say single target dps is higher on an unsigned tank than on a tank in siege mode. Is this really true?

Edit: I don’t think you can use the statistics in ladder to prove a point when a lot of those accounts are trolls.
Nambona890
Profile Joined March 2021
Australia32 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-01 00:57:49
May 01 2022 00:56 GMT
#24
On April 30 2022 14:20 KwarK wrote:
Also there's no reason to think that a full time professional player that can't hold S is an authority on anything so this thread is pointless.

There's even less reason to think that stream cheaters should have any authority on anything.
mario chomped down onto luigi's
nattacka
Profile Joined June 2021
2 Posts
May 01 2022 01:02 GMT
#25
Artosis hate thread - KwarK enters the chat LOL
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43927 Posts
May 01 2022 01:17 GMT
#26
On May 01 2022 09:56 Nambona890 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2022 14:20 KwarK wrote:
Also there's no reason to think that a full time professional player that can't hold S is an authority on anything so this thread is pointless.

There's even less reason to think that stream cheaters should have any authority on anything.

Not a stream cheater. The mystery of how the 2400 player beats the 2200 player doesn’t need cheating to solve.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Nambona890
Profile Joined March 2021
Australia32 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-01 01:51:21
May 01 2022 01:51 GMT
#27
On May 01 2022 10:17 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2022 09:56 Nambona890 wrote:
On April 30 2022 14:20 KwarK wrote:
Also there's no reason to think that a full time professional player that can't hold S is an authority on anything so this thread is pointless.

There's even less reason to think that stream cheaters should have any authority on anything.

Not a stream cheater. The mystery of how the 2400 player beats the 2200 player doesn’t need cheating to solve.

Bro, you've sniped Artosis many times, you've admitted to sniping, and you've even responded to what he's saying onstream in the ingame chat, along with many suspicious moves. It's fairly obvious to anyone with more than 3 brain cells.
mario chomped down onto luigi's
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43927 Posts
May 01 2022 03:40 GMT
#28
On May 01 2022 10:51 Nambona890 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2022 10:17 KwarK wrote:
On May 01 2022 09:56 Nambona890 wrote:
On April 30 2022 14:20 KwarK wrote:
Also there's no reason to think that a full time professional player that can't hold S is an authority on anything so this thread is pointless.

There's even less reason to think that stream cheaters should have any authority on anything.

Not a stream cheater. The mystery of how the 2400 player beats the 2200 player doesn’t need cheating to solve.

Bro, you've sniped Artosis many times, you've admitted to sniping, and you've even responded to what he's saying onstream in the ingame chat, along with many suspicious moves. It's fairly obvious to anyone with more than 3 brain cells.

I see we’re just making shit up now.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway764 Posts
May 01 2022 03:58 GMT
#29
What’s the history between you two anyway? Why did it turn out so bad?
Nambona890
Profile Joined March 2021
Australia32 Posts
May 01 2022 04:21 GMT
#30
On May 01 2022 12:40 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2022 10:51 Nambona890 wrote:
On May 01 2022 10:17 KwarK wrote:
On May 01 2022 09:56 Nambona890 wrote:
On April 30 2022 14:20 KwarK wrote:
Also there's no reason to think that a full time professional player that can't hold S is an authority on anything so this thread is pointless.

There's even less reason to think that stream cheaters should have any authority on anything.

Not a stream cheater. The mystery of how the 2400 player beats the 2200 player doesn’t need cheating to solve.

Bro, you've sniped Artosis many times, you've admitted to sniping, and you've even responded to what he's saying onstream in the ingame chat, along with many suspicious moves. It's fairly obvious to anyone with more than 3 brain cells.

I see we’re just making shit up now.

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mario chomped down onto luigi's
datSato
Profile Joined November 2021
1 Post
May 01 2022 04:33 GMT
#31
On May 01 2022 13:21 Nambona890 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2022 12:40 KwarK wrote:
On May 01 2022 10:51 Nambona890 wrote:
On May 01 2022 10:17 KwarK wrote:
On May 01 2022 09:56 Nambona890 wrote:
On April 30 2022 14:20 KwarK wrote:
Also there's no reason to think that a full time professional player that can't hold S is an authority on anything so this thread is pointless.

There's even less reason to think that stream cheaters should have any authority on anything.

Not a stream cheater. The mystery of how the 2400 player beats the 2200 player doesn’t need cheating to solve.

Bro, you've sniped Artosis many times, you've admitted to sniping, and you've even responded to what he's saying onstream in the ingame chat, along with many suspicious moves. It's fairly obvious to anyone with more than 3 brain cells.

I see we’re just making shit up now.

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User was warned for this post
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
May 01 2022 04:36 GMT
#32
On May 01 2022 10:02 nattacka wrote:
Artosis hate thread - KwarK enters the chat LOL



Its not a hate thread xD
-.-
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
May 01 2022 04:45 GMT
#33
On May 01 2022 06:23 Timebon3s wrote:
I know a lot of people say single target dps is higher on an unsigned tank than on a tank in siege mode. Is this really true?


Unsieged: 19.31 dps
Sieged: 22.22 dps
-.-
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
May 01 2022 08:53 GMT
#34
Finally Artosis noticed this thread :D
-.-
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway764 Posts
May 01 2022 14:32 GMT
#35
On May 01 2022 13:45 MeSaber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2022 06:23 Timebon3s wrote:
I know a lot of people say single target dps is higher on an unsigned tank than on a tank in siege mode. Is this really true?


Unsieged: 19.31 dps
Sieged: 22.22 dps

Thx!
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-01 15:24:20
May 01 2022 15:21 GMT
#36
And to give some numbers on splash dmg (dps):

SMALL:
unsieged: 9.65
sieged: 11.11
sieged+splash: 27.83
manual aiming: 72.69

MEDIUM:
unsieged: 14.48
sieged: 16.66
sieged+splash: 24.76
manual aiming: 82.53

LARGE:
unsieged: 19.31
sieged: 22.22
sieged+splash: 34.92
manual aiming: 110.47

Replay for data (Single Player only)
-.-
honorablemacroterran
Profile Joined January 2022
188 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-01 17:48:57
May 01 2022 17:47 GMT
#37
It's true that Kwark streamsniped Artosis. I'm surprised that he's trying to deny it after he openly admitted to it on Reddit about a year ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/comments/m7qh7j/what_is_the_deal_with_kwark_and_artosis_just_to/

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Should someone this dishonest and toxic be taken seriously by adults?
MasterKnives
Profile Joined May 2022
1 Post
May 01 2022 18:04 GMT
#38
On May 02 2022 02:47 honorablemacroterran wrote:
It's true that Kwark streamsniped Artosis. I'm surprised that he's trying to deny it after he openly admitted to it on Reddit about a year ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/comments/m7qh7j/what_is_the_deal_with_kwark_and_artosis_just_to/

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Should someone this dishonest and toxic be taken seriously by adults?



Hello new user here but long time viewer of Artosis also a lurker of these forums and can be another voice in confirming that he in fact does stream snipe. Individual in question should be ashamed there really isn't an excuse to justify behavior like that and hope the person in question gets the help they need.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43927 Posts
May 01 2022 18:30 GMT
#39
On May 02 2022 02:47 honorablemacroterran wrote:
It's true that Kwark streamsniped Artosis. I'm surprised that he's trying to deny it after he openly admitted to it on Reddit about a year ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/comments/m7qh7j/what_is_the_deal_with_kwark_and_artosis_just_to/

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Should someone this dishonest and toxic be taken seriously by adults?

I’m denying the stream cheating.
you've even responded to what he's saying onstream in the ingame chat, along with many suspicious moves
is pure fiction. I know it’s fiction because I was there and I’d have known if I was stream cheating. I’m not sure where you’re getting this from, maybe Artosis has been making up lies about me again. He does that a lot. For example he once claimed that I intervened in a Starcraft 2 tournament I’ve never heard of (I’ve nothing to do with sc2) to stop him winning due to some old grudge dating from years before either of us had ever interacted with the other.

He consistently claimed on his stream that I was targeting him despite an open offer for us to alternate leaving games (I volunteered to leave first as a good faith gesture). We’d randomly hit each other on ladder (though that doesn’t happen much anymore due to MMR difference) and he would bitch and whine about how he wished he didn’t have to play me despite knowing that he could at any time ask me to leave. Y’all are a bunch of weirdos who somehow don’t know the difference between real life and entertainment. He’s making a show and that casting people as villains against their will makes him drama and views.

About a year and a half ago we queued randomly and I again restated my willingness to leave if he left next time, just like I always did back then. He finally accepted and I voluntarily left because I really don’t like playing him and I really hate the way you fanboys follow me around making shit up. For a few months we successfully alternated leaving without drama at all until he broke the deal. That was a pretty shitty thing for him to do, I’d left the previous game while on my BSL account and hundreds of MMR higher. It probably cost me proleague qualification that season but we had a deal and I’m an honourable player. Then on his turn he refused to leave because he was close to S (lol who the fuck cares about S), dishonouring our deal and cheating for points.

He claims that I dishonoured the deal first but I can provide the replay where it was his turn and he refused to leave. There’s no point getting into who to believe, he broke it on May 27 and the game he uses as justification for breaking it was on May 30. May 30 is after May 27.
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I still don’t target him or harass him. You can check the vods of the streams in which we hit each other on ladder, I don’t snipe him or queue to hit him. But he insists on harassing me, lying about me, encouraging his dumb fucking simps to send me abuse. Something to keep in mind next time he makes some claim about me is that he’s either a liar or May 30 is before May 27.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway764 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-01 19:19:14
May 01 2022 19:13 GMT
#40
Sounds legitimate. More legit that a few fanboy 1 posts accounts claiming random shit just after Artosis read this thread on his stream.

Did he ever reply to that?
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