• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:32
CEST 04:32
KST 11:32
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon100Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 8/8 Yamato Cup Series StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall KSL Week #92
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
Bot on ladder New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! Syncronization issues and can't find games Remastered crash fix suggestions BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group D [BSL23] SM: Ret vs TerrOr - bo7 - Sunday 9pm CEST [ASL22] Ro16 Group C [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Post Your Watch!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8750 users

Fewest Terran in GSL history - Page 3

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 All
AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
January 22 2014 11:56 GMT
#41
On January 22 2014 20:56 Liman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:45 AxiomBlurr wrote:
Why is protoss to blame? Why not Zerg? Zerg will end up with 11 or 12 players in Code S too.

Answer: No one is to blame except for the Code A Terran players failing to produce results....


So Gumiho,Flash,Keen,Fantasy and Innovation are code A players,yet Classic,Ruin,YongHwa,MyuNgSiK,Panic,Zest,Stork and hero aren't ?!?
Go click on nexus tossboy.



That is correct...did you watch the matches?? yeah the defensive photon overcharge is to blame...
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
January 22 2014 11:57 GMT
#42
On January 22 2014 20:55 AxiomBlurr wrote:
Considering ZvP is the most swarm host/infestory match up I cant wait for Code S!!!~~

Cry babies please find some new allins...


Fixed that for you! No need to thank me.
maru G5L pls
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
January 22 2014 11:57 GMT
#43
On January 22 2014 20:56 Liman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:45 AxiomBlurr wrote:
Why is protoss to blame? Why not Zerg? Zerg will end up with 11 or 12 players in Code S too.

Answer: No one is to blame except for the Code A Terran players failing to produce results....


So Gumiho,Flash,Keen,Fantasy and Innovation are code A players,yet Classic,Ruin,YongHwa,MyuNgSiK,Panic,Zest,Stork and hero aren't ?!?
Go click on nexus tossboy.


*Code B
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Xarles
Profile Joined July 2011
459 Posts
January 22 2014 11:58 GMT
#44
This is starting to look like Maru's a protagonist in a Pokemon game where he has to beat the Elite Four and the Champion.
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
January 22 2014 11:59 GMT
#45
So code S games will be like 5 minutes PvP followed by 1 hour ZvP followed by 5 minutes PvP .....
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
January 22 2014 12:00 GMT
#46
On January 22 2014 20:59 imrusty269 wrote:
So code S games will be like 5 minutes PvP followed by 1 hour ZvP followed by 5 minutes PvP .....


Do you even watch this game? In Code A tonight for example...the vast majority of PvP games went to 3 bases....
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
January 22 2014 12:00 GMT
#47
People shouldn't be that salty about it when you consider the # of Terrans playing the last two WCS/GSL seasons have been getting thinner and thinner on top of the declining performances of Flash and Innovation (on top of Taeja leaving for America).

Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
January 22 2014 12:01 GMT
#48
On January 22 2014 20:34 Luolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:31 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On January 22 2014 20:08 massivez wrote:
Every Korean Terran struggles against protoss atm.

Maru doesnt

Every other one.

Mary will win agaisnt lesser protoss but will lose to Parting, Dear, etc. In fact he will have 50% WR vP , so game is balanced.
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
January 22 2014 12:03 GMT
#49
On January 22 2014 20:31 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:08 massivez wrote:
Every Korean Terran struggles against protoss atm.

Maru doesnt


Maru has free reign in PL over Toss. Protoss only throw out their sneaky do or die strats there and he just outmicroes them. Just like last PL, where Protoss wins mostly came from a sort of early game thing. Which was the reason why the "play standard and just have better mechanics" Terrans took alot of wins.
CrayonPopChoa
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada761 Posts
January 22 2014 12:05 GMT
#50
I have said this befoe in WoL but to me it seems stupid for an RTS game to be able to macro up easily to three base and equal your opponents army and then be forced to pull all scvs to kill them in one attack...like I cant imagine being able to do that in BW and yet in this game its like one of the most viable options for Terran in TvP.. It is kinda sad to have to see someone like Flash do this simply because he gets tricked with an early build order. Like serious the best BW Terran of all time can get a free pass to late game and that is what he determines is his best chance to win. that really is one of the biggest things that pisses me off with SC2.
BW4LIFE
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
January 22 2014 12:09 GMT
#51
On January 22 2014 21:00 Gamegene wrote:
People shouldn't be that salty about it when you consider the # of Terrans playing the last two WCS/GSL seasons have been getting thinner and thinner on top of the declining performances of Flash and Innovation (on top of Taeja leaving for America).


A big part of the salt comes from watching the actual games and seeing what protoss players are getting away with.

When they keep winning with scouted blink all-ins game after game, I think some salt is warranted.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 22 2014 12:10 GMT
#52
On January 22 2014 21:09 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 21:00 Gamegene wrote:
People shouldn't be that salty about it when you consider the # of Terrans playing the last two WCS/GSL seasons have been getting thinner and thinner on top of the declining performances of Flash and Innovation (on top of Taeja leaving for America).


A big part of the salt comes from watching the actual games and seeing what protoss players are getting away with.

When they keep winning with scouted blink all-ins game after game, I think some salt is warranted.


you can get more eco/tech/upgs out of 6g blink than the T anyway...
Zest fanboy.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
January 22 2014 12:11 GMT
#53
On January 22 2014 20:55 AxiomBlurr wrote:
Considering ZvP is the most dynamic match up (the match up with the highest variety of playstyles/units utilized) I cant wait for Code S!!!~~

Cry babies please find some objectivity...

Swarm hosts aren't fun to watch. Nor are Void rays. Sry.

I'm only upset because the Terrans are losing to a bunch of horribly designed units (Oracle, Mothership Core, Blink stalkers). Terrans are in a position where they HAVE to be ready to defend both oracles (6+ marines) AND blink stalkers (need marauders). Since the two do not really overlap, Terrans are forced to scout thoroughly and early or else they risk losing to one of the aggressive builds. Blink stalkers aren't the worst thing ever designed, but when there is the MSC, the Protoss doesn't have to make a robotics for the high-ground vision, speeding up the attack considerably. In addition, the MSC has one of the strongest abilities ever (GIANT AOE SLOW THAT IS CASTED BY A FLYING UNIT). If that doesn't reek of poor design, I don't know what does. Humorously, all of the other abilities that the MSC has are also poorly designed.

So, please don't give us that "objectivity" bullshit, because there's nothing more obnoxious than that.

Of the Terrans left, I suspect only Supernova and Ryung will get out, leaving us with a whopping 4!
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
January 22 2014 12:12 GMT
#54
On January 22 2014 21:10 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 21:09 Bagi wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:00 Gamegene wrote:
People shouldn't be that salty about it when you consider the # of Terrans playing the last two WCS/GSL seasons have been getting thinner and thinner on top of the declining performances of Flash and Innovation (on top of Taeja leaving for America).


A big part of the salt comes from watching the actual games and seeing what protoss players are getting away with.

When they keep winning with scouted blink all-ins game after game, I think some salt is warranted.


you can get more eco/tech/upgs out of 6g blink than the T anyway...

Youre right, my bad, its not really an all in considering the follow ups we see.

But it can still easily win the game. #protossbuilds
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 22 2014 12:13 GMT
#55
Is it me or does this thread pop up every week but with a new title?
AdministratorBreak the chains
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 22 2014 12:13 GMT
#56
On January 22 2014 21:12 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 21:10 sAsImre wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:09 Bagi wrote:
On January 22 2014 21:00 Gamegene wrote:
People shouldn't be that salty about it when you consider the # of Terrans playing the last two WCS/GSL seasons have been getting thinner and thinner on top of the declining performances of Flash and Innovation (on top of Taeja leaving for America).


A big part of the salt comes from watching the actual games and seeing what protoss players are getting away with.

When they keep winning with scouted blink all-ins game after game, I think some salt is warranted.


you can get more eco/tech/upgs out of 6g blink than the T anyway...

Youre right, my bad, its not really an all in considering the follow ups we see.

But it can still easily win the game. #protossbuilds


it was an all in, i don't think anything other than 1basing or a massive gate only push is all in for P in its current form, which is imo the core of the problem. You can pressure but committing to it should've consequencies like it does for Z/T
Zest fanboy.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
January 22 2014 12:14 GMT
#57
On January 22 2014 21:03 FeyFey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:31 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On January 22 2014 20:08 massivez wrote:
Every Korean Terran struggles against protoss atm.

Maru doesnt


Maru has free reign in PL over Toss. Protoss only throw out their sneaky do or die strats there and he just outmicroes them. Just like last PL, where Protoss wins mostly came from a sort of early game thing. Which was the reason why the "play standard and just have better mechanics" Terrans took alot of wins.


Let's see how Maru does against these Code S protoss. He honestly had no chance against Dear in the grand scheme of things, he was soundly beaten both times. Curious to see how he'd go against protoss players like PartinG as well.
Detri
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom683 Posts
January 22 2014 12:16 GMT
#58
On January 22 2014 21:05 ChoiSulli wrote:
I have said this befoe in WoL but to me it seems stupid for an RTS game to be able to macro up easily to three base and equal your opponents army and then be forced to pull all scvs to kill them in one attack...like I cant imagine being able to do that in BW and yet in this game its like one of the most viable options for Terran in TvP.. It is kinda sad to have to see someone like Flash do this simply because he gets tricked with an early build order. Like serious the best BW Terran of all time can get a free pass to late game and that is what he determines is his best chance to win. that really is one of the biggest things that pisses me off with SC2.



I completely agree. Late game toss is kinda broken. I have tweeted, posted, screamed, cried, yelled and moaned "Nerf warpgates, make it so it has an OPPORTUNITY COST to morph a warpgate from a gateway."

Please for the love of the Gods change it so only gateways can be chronoboosted. It's not like chargelots and stalkers are slow...

1 bad engagement vs toss and you have lost the game. 0 defenders advantage, how can a RTS have gotten so popular with such a flawed fundamental game mechanic

(that one is free blizzard, I called the mech upgrade buff 2 fracking years ago)
The poor are thieves, beggars and whores, the rich are politicians, solicitors and courtesans...
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
January 22 2014 12:16 GMT
#59
Yeah I don't think we need this thread right now. Feel free to go here if you are sad

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=441107
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Prev 1 2 3 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
ISSL Monthly #1 - Day 2
CranKy Ducklings84
LiquipediaDiscussion
The PiG Daily
21:45
Best Games of SC
herO vs Solar
PiGStarcraft549
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft549
WinterStarcraft350
RuFF_SC2 178
PiLiPiLi 27
StarCraft: Brood War
NaDa 58
Dota 2
monkeys_forever1145
NeuroSwarm192
League of Legends
Doublelift4039
Other Games
summit1g10623
JimRising 654
C9.Mang0549
XaKoH 164
Mew2King112
ViBE102
Livibee80
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1829
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 77
• davetesta15
• Sammyuel 9
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt237
Other Games
• Scarra1032
Upcoming Events
GSL
8h 28m
AI Arena Tournament
14h 28m
Replay Cast
21h 28m
GSL
1d 8h
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
1d 12h
Spirit vs Mixu
BSL
1d 16h
Ret vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
1d 21h
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Shine vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Light vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.