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bearhug
Profile Joined September 2010
United States999 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 11:39:13
January 22 2014 10:41 GMT
#1
With Innovation down 0:1 in code A Group G, we are likely to see a GSL with fewest terran in code S. TVT is highly unlikely to happen in the first GSL code S of 2014. There would be a lot of PVZs as you can see from the chart below. We may still have a Terran champion in the end: Maru, the TVP master.

Edit: Innovation to code B, unfortunately.

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We are dusts in the vast cosmic arena. Need to make the most out of life when we still have it.
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 10:46:12
January 22 2014 10:44 GMT
#2
Worth pointing out a lot of good terrans aren't playing in this (taeja, bomber, polt, jjakji, MMA and more). Also terrans are doing quite well in Proleague right now.

Also another 6 terrans, 3 of which are in 2 terran groups, are still to play. There's definitely a sharp decline in terran representation but it's not just maru and bbyong. Probably.
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 22 2014 10:46 GMT
#3
On January 22 2014 19:44 iaguz wrote:
Worth pointing out a lot of good terrans aren't playing in this (taeja, bomber, polt, jjakji, MMA and more). Also terrans are doing quite well in Proleague right now.


Kind of weird considering that people claim that protoss shine in bo1 formats, huh?
Should be the other way around then, terran performing better in GSL and protoss performing better in Proleague.
SiroKO
Profile Joined February 2012
France721 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 10:57:51
January 22 2014 10:56 GMT
#4
On January 22 2014 19:44 iaguz wrote:
Worth pointing out a lot of good terrans aren't playing in this (taeja, bomber, polt, jjakji, MMA and more). Also terrans are doing quite well in Proleague right now.

Also another 6 terrans, 3 of which are in 2 terran groups, are still to play. There's definitely a sharp decline in terran representation but it's not just maru and bbyong. Probably.


Taeja, very likely considering his latest results.
Bomber, polt, this is already very arguable.
Jikaji, MMA ? Watch their latest games, they even lost to Foreigner Protoss.

So this makes it +0-2 Terrans AT MAX, and supposing (for some weird reasons) that all T staid in Korea.
Besides, your claim is unscientific since it is completly unveryfiable.
"If these players plaid in Korea, they would probably beat good Korean P and get in code S".
Our envy always last longer than the happiness of those we envy
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
January 22 2014 10:58 GMT
#5
On January 22 2014 19:46 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 19:44 iaguz wrote:
Worth pointing out a lot of good terrans aren't playing in this (taeja, bomber, polt, jjakji, MMA and more). Also terrans are doing quite well in Proleague right now.


Kind of weird considering that people claim that protoss shine in bo1 formats, huh?
Should be the other way around then, terran performing better in GSL and protoss performing better in Proleague.


The stake is a lot higher in GSL. We see protosses do weird builds and lose in proleague but then proceed to look very solid in code A (IM protosses, Zest ...). They might have not tried very hard in the team league.
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12621 Posts
January 22 2014 11:01 GMT
#6
used to think tvp is imbalanced until I saw the result of fantasy beating yonghwa 2-0
now I am just confused
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
January 22 2014 11:02 GMT
#7
Considering Terran and Zerg Dwarf Protoss in GSL victories, A season with alot of Protoss is a welcomed changed
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
MiCroLiFe
Profile Joined March 2012
Norway275 Posts
January 22 2014 11:02 GMT
#8
i hope blizzard WAKE up and remove the godd damn OP core that RUINS the match up.

I stimmed 20 marines and the toss deffended whit ONE STALKER. GOOD JOBB BLIZZARD.

Admins. dont give me a warnig for this.

Its retarded if i get warning for statin something THAT is completly True. Toss is broken against terran.

User was temp banned for this post.
Im Terran. Yes i will balance whine somethimes. And thats how we terrans survive, Hoping for balance patches<3
MiCroLiFe
Profile Joined March 2012
Norway275 Posts
January 22 2014 11:03 GMT
#9
On January 22 2014 20:01 ETisME wrote:
used to think tvp is imbalanced until I saw the result of fantasy beating yonghwa 2-0
now I am just confused



Fantasy also beats flash.

Fantasy is a really good terran. toss is stil broken
Im Terran. Yes i will balance whine somethimes. And thats how we terrans survive, Hoping for balance patches<3
massivez
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium653 Posts
January 22 2014 11:08 GMT
#10
Every Korean Terran struggles against protoss atm.
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
January 22 2014 11:08 GMT
#11
On January 22 2014 20:01 ETisME wrote:
used to think tvp is imbalanced until I saw the result of fantasy beating yonghwa 2-0
now I am just confused


It's late, YH is already in code S, he wanted to sleep. Progamer don't treat every event equally.
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
January 22 2014 11:13 GMT
#12
On January 22 2014 20:08 massivez wrote:
Every Korean Terran struggles against protoss atm.


Maybe its time to realize that PvT cannot be "every Protoss best match up" for the reason that its their best match up, but rather that its favored towards Protoss in the current state.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
January 22 2014 11:13 GMT
#13
On January 22 2014 19:44 iaguz wrote:
Worth pointing out a lot of good terrans aren't playing in this (taeja, bomber, polt, jjakji, MMA and more). Also terrans are doing quite well in Proleague right now.

Also another 6 terrans, 3 of which are in 2 terran groups, are still to play. There's definitely a sharp decline in terran representation but it's not just maru and bbyong. Probably.

most of the terrans wins are from Maru and Ty/Flash thou..
yo
jotmang
Profile Joined October 2013
Korea (South)16 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 11:15:53
January 22 2014 11:15 GMT
#14
Q: Which race received the most 'WHAT'S COOOOOOL' treatment from Dustin Browder?
A: Protoss

Q: Which race is most broken from a game design perspective?
A: Protoss

Conclusion: Dustin Browder is a fucking idiot who has no business designing games.

Extra: Dustin Browder, David Kim, and Jay Wilson are in charge of Heroes of the Storm development. Buyers Beware!!!

User was banned for this post.
jotmang game is jotmang
Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
January 22 2014 11:15 GMT
#15
On January 22 2014 19:56 SiroKO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 19:44 iaguz wrote:
Worth pointing out a lot of good terrans aren't playing in this (taeja, bomber, polt, jjakji, MMA and more). Also terrans are doing quite well in Proleague right now.

Also another 6 terrans, 3 of which are in 2 terran groups, are still to play. There's definitely a sharp decline in terran representation but it's not just maru and bbyong. Probably.


Taeja, very likely considering his latest results.
Bomber, polt, this is already very arguable.
Jikaji, MMA ? Watch their latest games, they even lost to Foreigner Protoss.

So this makes it +0-2 Terrans AT MAX, and supposing (for some weird reasons) that all T staid in Korea.
Besides, your claim is unscientific since it is completly unveryfiable.
"If these players plaid in Korea, they would probably beat good Korean P and get in code S".

jjakji would have been in Code S after being in the top 8 of the previous GSL. He forfeited the spot to move to EU. If he wanted to be in Code S he would have been.
massivez
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium653 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 11:15:55
January 22 2014 11:15 GMT
#16
On January 22 2014 20:13 Killmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 19:44 iaguz wrote:
Worth pointing out a lot of good terrans aren't playing in this (taeja, bomber, polt, jjakji, MMA and more). Also terrans are doing quite well in Proleague right now.

Also another 6 terrans, 3 of which are in 2 terran groups, are still to play. There's definitely a sharp decline in terran representation but it's not just maru and bbyong. Probably.

most of the terrans wins are from Maru and Ty/Flash thou..


But they struggle against Toss in tournament qualifiers.
Liman
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia681 Posts
January 22 2014 11:17 GMT
#17
Things get even worse if you look at the names.
What i mean is look at the achievements of protoss players who qualified and compare them to zergs.
Not to mention terrans who didnt qualify.
Freelancer veteran
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
January 22 2014 11:17 GMT
#18
On January 22 2014 19:56 SiroKO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 19:44 iaguz wrote:
Worth pointing out a lot of good terrans aren't playing in this (taeja, bomber, polt, jjakji, MMA and more). Also terrans are doing quite well in Proleague right now.

Also another 6 terrans, 3 of which are in 2 terran groups, are still to play. There's definitely a sharp decline in terran representation but it's not just maru and bbyong. Probably.


Taeja, very likely considering his latest results.
Bomber, polt, this is already very arguable.
Jikaji, MMA ? Watch their latest games, they even lost to Foreigner Protoss.

So this makes it +0-2 Terrans AT MAX, and supposing (for some weird reasons) that all T staid in Korea.
Besides, your claim is unscientific since it is completly unveryfiable.
"If these players plaid in Korea, they would probably beat good Korean P and get in code S".

unrelated but this is a hilarious typo
@KawaiiRiceLighT
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
January 22 2014 11:24 GMT
#19
On January 22 2014 20:17 KawaiiRice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 19:56 SiroKO wrote:
On January 22 2014 19:44 iaguz wrote:
Worth pointing out a lot of good terrans aren't playing in this (taeja, bomber, polt, jjakji, MMA and more). Also terrans are doing quite well in Proleague right now.

Also another 6 terrans, 3 of which are in 2 terran groups, are still to play. There's definitely a sharp decline in terran representation but it's not just maru and bbyong. Probably.


Taeja, very likely considering his latest results.
Bomber, polt, this is already very arguable.
Jikaji, MMA ? Watch their latest games, they even lost to Foreigner Protoss.

So this makes it +0-2 Terrans AT MAX, and supposing (for some weird reasons) that all T staid in Korea.
Besides, your claim is unscientific since it is completly unveryfiable.
"If these players plaid in Korea, they would probably beat good Korean P and get in code S".

unrelated but this is a hilarious typo

yeah, everyone knows his name is Jumanji.

RIP in peace terran. obviously it's not GSL's fault but i'm not sure i'll watch too much of this season considering the race i enjoy watching most is almost not represented and the least fun race to watch has huge representation. zerg is fine as long as it's not mass ZvZ though.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
January 22 2014 11:31 GMT
#20
On January 22 2014 20:08 massivez wrote:
Every Korean Terran struggles against protoss atm.

Maru doesnt
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
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