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-CheekyDuck-
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia398 Posts
April 15 2013 12:45 GMT
#21
On April 15 2013 21:43 k!llua wrote:
Sure, we can let old events stay in the past, or we can dig them back up and cover serious allegations of fraud, theft and clear the name of someone who has been severely damaged -- both personally and professionally because of the actions of others.

...

Nah, why the fuck would we want to do that?


thank-you
More expensive than a mothership
greatZERG
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia755 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 12:50:50
April 15 2013 12:45 GMT
#22
How does any of this make Gus the silent hero of anything?

stu >)
TargA
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway204 Posts
April 15 2013 12:47 GMT
#23
So I read through the streamcheating evidence and I hope that you remove it asap, someone being in the stream chat box is not sufficient evidence to mark them as a streamcheater. I am sure most of the players in that qualifier were watching the stream and would be in the stream chat box during their own games.. As far as I remember, Rossi did not play suspect at all!

Also, streaming qualifiers without delay= retarded
ProgamerOn October 26 2013 00:10 Nerchio wrote: Shoutout to Targa, best zerg in europe || http://twitter.com/#!/TargA01
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
April 15 2013 12:47 GMT
#24
On April 15 2013 21:27 Zaphid wrote:
That is some pretty good evidence.

Still, why is this coming out now ?


Did you actually read it? How was this good evidence?

I'd say this was a lot of speculation at best and a lot of story spinning from both sides. And now we're accusing Amanda with about as much evidence as we had when we accused Gus? It seems like this story is trying to spin this as a negative on Amanda and the travel agency, but it's still Gus' fault for choosing the travel agency in the first place. He should have inquired about their fees and extra charges far in advance, and gotten it in contract.
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shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
April 15 2013 12:47 GMT
#25
Ugh.. nope. Still has a lot of villain activities outside of PPSL.
AKMU / IU
lisward
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Singapore959 Posts
April 15 2013 12:48 GMT
#26
Sounds like a lot of he said she said, going to wait for Dox, YYJ and Thegunrun to make their statements first. They seemed to have actual evidence while all I see here is a lot of name dropping.
Opinions are like phasers -- everybody ought to have one
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
April 15 2013 12:48 GMT
#27
So why did gus claim that he would explain and give his version of the events, but just ended up disapearing? On top of that this post is horribly written, which makes it really hard to read.
greatZERG
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia755 Posts
April 15 2013 12:50 GMT
#28
The biggest problem with this post is that it's written from such a bias standpoint. If your information was so damning and the evidence so clear cut then you wouldn't need such grandiose hyperbole to get your point across.
stu >)
torpooky
Profile Joined March 2012
8 Posts
April 15 2013 12:51 GMT
#29
What the hell just because he was in the stream chat doesn't mean he was stream cheating at all I have been in stream chats when i have played and had the stream paused etc. It doesn't mean shit.
greatZERG
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia755 Posts
April 15 2013 12:52 GMT
#30
Poll: Does being merely incompetent rather than malicious make Gus a hero?

No (117)
 
90%

Yes (13)
 
10%

130 total votes

Your vote: Does being merely incompetent rather than malicious make Gus a hero?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


stu >)
deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 12:55:50
April 15 2013 12:53 GMT
#31
The major problem I see here is that you're so absolutely sure of yourself, that you start from the position that everything Gus says is true and that everyone else is part of this huge conspiracy to steal money and ruin a guy's life.

You're completely ignoring all compelling evidence put forward from many other community members, and painting a completely biased picture from one side of the equation. No effort whatsoever has been given to balance here.

It's so evident through all your chat logs that you weren't discussing the issues with the people at hand, you were persecuting them.

EDIT: ROFL @ the poll!

EDIT2: I'd also point out that accusing Rossi of stream cheating is just as bad, if not worse than half the shit you're defending ledesma from here.
Tazerenix
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia340 Posts
April 15 2013 12:56 GMT
#32
ob·jec·tive
/əbˈjektiv/
Adjective
(of a person or their judgment) Not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.


Please allow me to share with you the truth, which many people have tried to hide, deny and hold ransom, for self preservation, promotion and profit. What you do with it, is up to you.


Gus Ledesma Silent Hero of PPSL/IPL4 Qualifiers
Wunder
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2950 Posts
April 15 2013 12:57 GMT
#33
I don't even know how to process this.
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Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
April 15 2013 12:58 GMT
#34
It's really frustrating that this information wasn't brought up earlier. It's also a shitload of information to try and digest for an event that is fuzzy at best in most peoples minds at this point. I'm by no means saying you shouldn't have posted it, but it definitely would've made much more sense to do it earlier.

I will say what everyone else has tho that condemning someone to stream cheating based on a name in a chat box is ludicrous and should be removed entirely from the story unless something else on that matter comes up.
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aFganFlyTrap
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia212 Posts
April 15 2013 12:59 GMT
#35
Horribly presented and some pretty dubious assertions.
Parlortricks
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States111 Posts
April 15 2013 13:07 GMT
#36
He is a hero because it would mean another notch tacked onto IPL's event count.
mewo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States221 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 13:10:38
April 15 2013 13:07 GMT
#37
Maybe I am too dumb to see it, but how much was she payed total and how much did she overcharge? Could you maybe list all the tickets and invoices and show us the disparity?

And one more thing. How much of this is just how SEA does business?
greatZERG
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia755 Posts
April 15 2013 13:09 GMT
#38
The Rossi accusation makes no sense. You're willing to stake the reputation of a player with 34 placings and ~$4k in winnings who has represented Australia against their name being in a chat box in a screenshot. Not even the most jaded e-sports fan would call that evidence. Either you wrote this to pad your post or you hold some sort of grudge/issue with him or his team personally. At least that's what I read from this.
stu >)
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
April 15 2013 13:09 GMT
#39
Two words: hidden costs.
vankaizer
Profile Joined December 2010
Philippines14 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 13:20:24
April 15 2013 13:10 GMT
#40
Two Works: [strike]Airline[/strike] Travel Agency
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