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KwarK
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Gahlo
United States35093 Posts
Octavius V. Catto statue, saga are home runs for youngsters Octavius V. Catto is still teaching the children. More than 140 years after the 32-year-old civil rights activist was assassinated on South Street while defending the right of black citizens to vote, Catto continues to inspire a new generation, said children, parents, and teachers gathered Tuesday for the unveiling of a Catto memorial. They were among the hundreds who converged on the southwest apron of City Hall for the ceremony celebrating Philadelphia’s first public statue honoring a specific African American. “We have statues that actually represent peace and what people can do,” said Temidayo Bambe, 13, an eighth grader at St. Peter’s, an independent school in Society Hill. “It’s actually pretty cool, I’m not going to lie. It’s kind of inspiring.” His friend Drew Cohen, 13, agreed: “It’s a great first step for recognizing more people who made a contribution to history — not just the city’s history, but the world.” For a long time, Catto’s story had been left out of many classrooms and history books. Catto was a star baseball player who founded the Pythians, a professional baseball team; an educator who taught at the Institute for Colored Youth, which became Cheyney University; an activist who fought to desegregate the city’s trolleys and bring black citizens the right to vote. Students said it was empowering and inspiring to see Catto be recognized and celebrated. Teachers said they hoped their students would gain a fuller understanding of history and their place in it. Parents said they want children to learn their own power, their own ability to contribute. “He’s a Philadelphian,” Rhonda Ryan, 46, said of Catto, holding her 5-year-old son, Myles Clay, on her shoulders. “And he represents him. Finally.” <CONT> Philadelphia Inquirer | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
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sc-darkness
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Also, it hasn’t gone into effect yet. The risk is real, but it isn’t reality yet. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15401 Posts
On September 28 2017 06:07 sc-darkness wrote: Well done US government. You've crushed dreams of Brexit fans. Unfortunately, at the expense of normal people. In specific, I'm talking about the 220% tariff on Bombardier: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/bombardier-planes-import-tariff-us-beoing-dispute-220-percent-northern-ireland-jobs-at-risk-a7969261.html Brexit was supremely terrible for Ireland. A whole lot of things that made Ireland useful went out the door. | ||
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sc-darkness
856 Posts
On September 28 2017 06:16 Mohdoo wrote: Brexit was supremely terrible for Ireland. A whole lot of things that made Ireland useful went out the door. Brexit is terrible for the whole of UK in my opinion. I've been living there for ~6 years.  | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
We have the votes on Graham-Cassidy. But with the rules of reconciliation, we're up against a deadline of Friday, two days. That's just two days. And — yes vote senator, — we have a wonderful senator, great, great senator, who is a yes vote, but he's home recovering from a pretty tough situation. And with so many great features, including all of the block granting, the money to the states, etc., etc., our health care plan is really going to be something excellent. It's going to be better managed for the people that it serves. Having local health care representatives is far better than having health care managed from Washington, DC. Not even a contest. [Applause] And many, many governors, as you also see, have agreed with us and approved it and really look forward to running it properly. But again, because the reconciliation window is about to close, we have to wait a few months until it reopens before we take a vote. So we're getting all of the good signs from Alaska and the others to repeal and replace Obamacare. And I was hoping this would be put on my desk right after we won the election, and I'd come in and sign, but didn't work that way. And a couple of people that — I won't say anything. But early next year, when reconciliation kicks back in, in any event, long before the November election, we're going to have a vote and we're going to get that through, and I think we'll actually get it through very easily, and the time makes it easier. Source Oh boy, I would loooove if the Republicans tried to repeal right ahead of midterms next year. Literally the entire healthcare industry would run ads against them. | ||
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Plansix
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GreenHorizons
United States22736 Posts
On September 28 2017 06:26 ticklishmusic wrote: Source Oh boy, I would loooove if the Republicans tried to repeal right ahead of midterms next year. Literally the entire healthcare industry would run ads against them. I see the strategic advantage, but that feels gross. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 28 2017 06:26 ticklishmusic wrote: Source Oh boy, I would loooove if the Republicans tried to repeal right ahead of midterms next year. Literally the entire healthcare industry would run ads against them. Someone didn’t tell Trump he only really gets to push through bills for like 8 months out of 4 years. After that, he job is to manage the executive branch and govern. Congress passes laws moves the ball, not him. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21377 Posts
On September 28 2017 06:26 ticklishmusic wrote: Source Oh boy, I would loooove if the Republicans tried to repeal right ahead of midterms next year. Literally the entire healthcare industry would run ads against them. Well there is a bold faced lie if I ever saw one. No they don't have the votes. No this crucial yes voters is not stuck at home recovering. They were pretty damn ok with driving a recovering McCain after his surgery and news of his brain cancer to the senate if he was willing to vote for a repeal. sad. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15401 Posts
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CorsairHero
Canada9489 Posts
On September 28 2017 06:07 sc-darkness wrote: Well done US government. You've crushed dreams of Brexit fans. Unfortunately, at the expense of normal people. In specific, I'm talking about the 220% tariff on Bombardier: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/bombardier-planes-import-tariff-us-beoing-dispute-220-percent-northern-ireland-jobs-at-risk-a7969261.html new F18 order at risk of being cancelled over this http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/boeing-bombardier-trade-war-brewster-1.4308734 | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9351 Posts
Trump’s Justice Department appeared in federal court Tuesday to argue that employers should be able to fire people because they are gay. In a rare occurrence, all 13 judges of the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals heard oral arguments in Zarda v. Altitude Express Tuesday. The case originated in 2010 when skydiving instructor Donald Zarda sued his former employer, Altitude Express, alleging he had been fired because of his sexual orientation. The judges are expected to decide if the Title VII provision of the 1964 Civil Rights Act that protects against discrimination based on gender should also apply to discrimination based on sexual orientation. “Employers under Title VII are permitted to consider employees’ out-of-work sexual conduct,” argued Hashim Mooppan, the Department of Justice attorney. “There is a commonsense, intuitive difference between sex and sexual orientation.” Tuesday’s oral arguments were an even rarer occasion because another government agency, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, was in court to argue against the DOJ, saying gay employees are protected by Title VII. The Justice Department inserted itself into the case in July by filing a brief supporting the employer. The judges hammered Mooppan, the DOJ lawyer, with questions about why the department decided to weigh in, saying it was “a bit awkward” to have the federal government split on a key legal issue. One judge explicitly asked if the DOJ employment discrimination division had been consulted. “It’s not appropriate for me to comment,” Mooppan answered. However the judges decide, the Zarda case could ultimately make it to the high court. A three-judge panel in the 2nd Circuit ruled against Zarda in April but agreed to hear the case again with the full court of 13 judges. And while courts have traditionally stuck to a narrow reading of the Civil Rights Act, this year the 7th Circuit that found the Civil Rights Act protects against sexual orientation discrimination, calling any other interpretation “confusing and contradictory.” “We need the Supreme Court to decide this issue once and for all,” said Lambda Legal CEO Rachel Tiven. “Today was a rehearsal.” It wouldn’t be the only gay rights case targeted by the Department of Justice to land before the Supreme Court. In early September, the DOJ filed a brief in support of a Colorado cake maker who refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex couple in 2012, citing freedom of religion and speech. The Supreme Court is expected to hear that case, Masterpiece Cake Shop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, this term. https://news.vice.com/story/the-trump-administration-wants-being-gay-to-be-a-fireable-offense | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
Employers under Title VII are permitted to consider employees’ out-of-work sexual conduct, why and since when are employers entitled to judge what sexual stuff people are into when they are out of work? Please tell me that this has no chance of actually going through the legal system | ||
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farvacola
United States18819 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On September 28 2017 07:11 Nyxisto wrote: why and since when are employers entitled to judge what sexual stuff people are into when they are out of work? Please tell me that this has no chance of actually going through the legal system The argument is basically that if you have an employee engaging in public orgies on live TV involving bestiality or other pretty clearly degenerate acts it should be permissible to fire them as people will associate those acts with your company. At one point in time being gay would be viewed on that level, but it's not really anymore. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States22736 Posts
On September 28 2017 07:14 Nevuk wrote: The argument is basically that if you have an employee engaging in public orgies on live TV involving bestiality or other pretty clearly degenerate acts it should be permissible to fire them as people will associate those acts with your company. At one point in time being gay would be viewed on that level, but it's not really anymore. Well Republicans are about to try to elect a guy who thinks gay people should be in prison soooo... | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 28 2017 07:14 Nevuk wrote: The argument is basically that if you have an employee engaging in public orgies on live TV involving bestiality or other pretty clearly degenerate acts it should be permissible to fire them as people will associate those acts with your company. At one point in time being gay would be viewed on that level, but it's not really anymore. I feel there are numerous ways that this could be covered in law that didn't also mean people could be fired for being in an open relationship or gay. On September 28 2017 07:19 GreenHorizons wrote: Well Republicans are about to try to elect a guy who thinks gay people should be in prison soooo... They straight up agreed to back that man with money and support. The man who lies and says sharia law has taken over some towns in Illinois. He also refers to Illinois like its some far off land that cannot be truly known, like China in the 1890s. | ||
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