US Politics Mega-thread - Page 8866

On September 28 2017 07:02 CorsairHero wrote:

new F18 order at risk of being cancelled over this
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/boeing-bombardier-trade-war-brewster-1.4308734

On September 28 2017 07:52 Lmui wrote:


Good.

It literally made no sense for Canada to do that anyways.

We'd be stuck on an older fighter platform, which no one else uses, and it'd cost more per aircraft over the lifetime of the plane than F-35s would anyways.

We'd also have to buy more planes anyways to fill the rest of our needs, which in all likelihood would be the F-35.

On September 28 2017 07:28 Plansix wrote:
Holy shit this memo is amazing. Courting greivance based voters has completely backfired. Without Obama, Republicans are the target in primaries.

https://twitter.com/jmartNYT/status/913156045169709056

On September 28 2017 07:52 Lmui wrote:


Good.

It literally made no sense for Canada to do that anyways.

We'd be stuck on an older fighter platform, which no one else uses, and it'd cost more per aircraft over the lifetime of the plane than F-35s would anyways.

We'd also have to buy more planes anyways to fill the rest of our needs, which in all likelihood would be the F-35.

In late 2013, Washington state made history.

On a mid-November Monday, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee (D) signed into law the largest corporate tax break in any state’s history, with an estimated lifetime value of $8.7 billion. The package was the result of a special three-day session Inslee called in order to entice Boeing to build its 777X plane in the state. Boeing didn’t just score big that day. The aerospace giant has received more state and local subsidy dollars than any other corporation in America, according to newly released data compiled by Good Jobs First, a policy resource center on subsidy data.

On September 28 2017 08:12 CorsairHero wrote:

Why is boeing complaining about subsidies again?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2015/03/17/the-united-states-of-subsidies-the-biggest-corporate-winners-in-each-state/?utm_term=.ef3eb08ed619

On September 28 2017 05:40 GreenHorizons wrote:


So we're in agreement if we want to get the politics out of sports we have to remove the national anthem and the other stuff?

On September 28 2017 08:05 Tachion wrote:

Trump campaigned hard for Strange, but they go on in that memo about how sucking on Trump's tit is the true path to victory. It seems the anti-establishment pull may be greater than Trump's due to the level of dissatisfaction with the GOP congress. Mainstream Republicans are in some pretty deep shit, but how scary is it to think that people will look to more candidates like Roy Moore as the answer.
Then again, anti-establishment has pretty much lost all meaning when you put Trump up as the anti-establishment candidate. Seems like Republican voters want change more than anything else. What direction that change points seems secondary.

On September 28 2017 08:05 Tachion wrote:

Trump campaigned hard for Strange, but they go on in that memo about how sucking on Trump's tit is the true path to victory. It seems the anti-establishment pull may be greater than Trump's due to the level of dissatisfaction with the GOP congress. Mainstream Republicans are in some pretty deep shit, but how scary is it to think that people will look to more candidates like Roy Moore as the answer.
Then again, anti-establishment has pretty much lost all meaning when you put Trump up as the anti-establishment candidate. Seems like Republican voters want change more than anything else. What direction that change points seems secondary.

On September 28 2017 06:28 Plansix wrote:
Blowing up 50+ years of trade deals, free movement agreements and good will during a poorly thought out referendum is a fucking terrible idea. It takes a special kind of arrogance to look at decades of agreements work out between nations and think “I can re-negotiate all of those. We will get a better deal.” But the pro-Brexit politicians sold it with the idea that there would be only winners, no losers. That isn’t how politics works. And if I were them, I would be concerned with Ireland getting the raw end of this deal.

Donald Trump said on Wednesday he was open to working with Democrats on healthcare, following the collapse of yet another Republican plan to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act.

Trump claimed that the GOP could corral enough votes to pass the measure – a last-gasp effort to deliver on a central campaign promise of the last seven years – but not in time for this week’s deadline, after which 60 votes would be needed instead of 51.

Trump, who has become increasingly frustrated with Republicans’ failure to repeal his predecessor’s healthcare law, told reporters on Wednesday that he would engage Democrats to “see if I can get a health plan that is even better”.

Speaking to reporters outside the White House, Trump insisted that the repeal measure, authored by senators Lindsey Graham and Bill Cassidy, could not proceed because an unnamed Republican senator who supported the bill was in the hospital. However, three senators – all of whom were present this week - had already announced their opposition to the measure, leaving Republicans at least one vote short.

“I feel we have the votes; I’m almost certain we have the votes,” Trump told reporters. “But with one man in the hospital we cannot display that we have them.”

Trump repeated the claim several times during his exchange with reporters. “One of our ‘yes’ votes is in the hospital. I can’t take him out of the hospital,” he said.

After Trump’s comments, Thad Cochran, a Republican senator of Mississippi, said on Twitter that he was not in fact hospitalized but was “recuperating at home in Mississippi”.

Later on Wednesday, Trump told a crowd at a rally in Indianapolis that the senator is “home recovering from a pretty tough situation”. Trump drew laughter when he said he would refrain from singling out the senators who opposed the repeal effort.

“I was hoping this would be put on my desk right after we won the election, and I’d come in and sign,” Trump said. He promised: “In any even, long before the November election, we’re going to have a vote.”

He also said he was considering using executive action to reform the health system and said that he may issue a “major” order to allow people to buy health insurance across state lines.

The idea, which is popular among Republicans, would allow people to purchase health insurance from other states. Proponents say would increase competition and drive down costs but critics say this would lead to a “race to the bottom” as insurance companies based themselves in states with the most lenient regulations and sold plans based on those rules throughout the country.

For nearly a decade, Republicans have climbed to power in Washington with a single promise: to repeal Barack Obama’s Affordable Care Act, the 2010 law that extended health coverage to millions of Americans but which they decry as unwarranted government intrusion. But Tuesday’s failure, which came after a previous repeal attempt was defeated in dramatic fashion in July, all but ensured the law would remain in place through the end of Trump’s first year in office.

While Trump and the Republicans have been unsuccessful at repealing the law, the uncertainty caused by eight months of fits and starts on a repeal plan and Trump’s threats to withhold payments to insurers has shaken insurance markets.In one estimate, the CBO projected that average premiums for health insurance purchased on the individual market would rise 15% as a result of uncertainty over whether Trump will fund the subsidies to insurers.

On September 28 2017 07:11 Nyxisto wrote:


why and since when are employers entitled to judge what sexual stuff people are into when they are out of work? Please tell me that this has no chance of actually going through the legal system

On September 28 2017 08:15 Danglars wrote:

I had no idea there was this basketball team out in Connecticut that recited the pledge. I’d only ever heard the anthem up until now to my recollection.

And no, we absolutely disagree.

In the latest poll, 40 percent of Americans said that they support the stance that some pro football players have made to not stand during the anthem. That is up from 28 percent who answered the same way in a similar Reuters/Ipsos poll last year.

The leaders of the Senate Judiciary Committee blasted the Trump administration on Wednesday for insufficiently consulting with Congress before deciding the number of refugees that will be admitted into the United States next year.

The unusually harsh joint condemnation of the State Department from Sens. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), the committee’s chairman, and top Democrat Dianne Feinstein of California came as the administration slashed the number of refugees the country will take in during fiscal 2018 to 45,000 people. President Barack Obama had aimed to admit 110,000 refugees in the current fiscal year, which ends Saturday.

Aides to the senators said a meeting on the issue with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson wasn’t even scheduled until after details of the administration’s refugee plan had leaked out to the news media on Tuesday. The meeting occurred at 4:30 p.m. Wednesday — just before the senators issued their joint statement.

“We are incredibly frustrated that the annual consultation for refugee admissions, which is required by law, was finalized just one day in advance,” Grassley and Feinstein said. “It is simply unacceptable to read in the press that the administration had reached its decision on the refugee cap before the mandated meeting with Congress had even been scheduled.

“Since August, our offices have made bipartisan requests to the State Department on this meeting,” the senators continued. “Congress and the law require real engagement on this important subject. An eleventh-hour meeting to check a legal box is not sufficient.”

Under the law, the administration is required to consult with Capitol Hill in person before a president can formally issue the annual number of refugee admissions.

Feinstein issued a statement later Wednesday calling the refugee cap of 45,000 “completely unacceptable” and that it “does not reflect the needs of the worldwide humanitarian crisis.”

“California accepts more refugees than any other state—9 percent of the U.S. total—and I’ve never been told about a problem,” Feinstein said. “Simply put, our country is not doing its part to respond to this global crisis and there’s no good reason for that to be the case. We’re better than this.”

On September 28 2017 09:00 GreenHorizons wrote:


Worth a shot. The Anthem is political, always has been. Sorry you can't see that as easily as you see that you were wrong about the pledge.

On September 28 2017 09:12 Wulfey_LA wrote:
Frank Luntz dug up some old polls from 1961 and 1957. The Freedom Rides polled at 21% approval in 1961 and "Also in 1961, 57% of people said lunch counter sit-ins "hurt the Negro's chances of being integrated in the South."".

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This can be compared with polling on the kneelers. 40% support this year. 28% support last year. The Kapernick/kneeler protests are outpolling the freedom riders when compared to polling taken at the time.



http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-nfl-poll/a-majority-of-adults-disagree-with-trump-on-firing-athletes-who-kneel-during-anthem-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKCN1C1304