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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 28 2017 00:26 GMT
#177321


We don't have a replacement, so let's just fuck people over for literally no reason.
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-28 00:27:15
September 28 2017 00:26 GMT
#177322
(CNN)In candid remarks Wednesday, former first lady Michelle Obama said women who voted for Republican nominee Donald Trump over Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton went against their "authentic voice" in the 2016 presidential election.

"Any woman who voted against Hillary Clinton voted against their own voice," she said at the Inbound 2017 conference in Boston, according to video from inside the event.

"What does it mean for us as women that we look at those two candidates, as women, and many of us said, that guy, he's better for me, his voice is more true to me," Obama said. "Well, to me that just says you don't like your voice. You like the thing you're told to like."

www.cnn.com

Here's one for everybody to try to figure out.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 28 2017 00:29 GMT
#177323
Given the binary open, Trump is worse for women's rights and health. This isn't a complex issue.
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zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
September 28 2017 00:30 GMT
#177324
sounds like a much more polite and confusing way to call people the idiots that they are.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23929 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-28 00:33:28
September 28 2017 00:30 GMT
#177325
On September 28 2017 09:26 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
(CNN)In candid remarks Wednesday, former first lady Michelle Obama said women who voted for Republican nominee Donald Trump over Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton went against their "authentic voice" in the 2016 presidential election.

"Any woman who voted against Hillary Clinton voted against their own voice," she said at the Inbound 2017 conference in Boston, according to video from inside the event.

"What does it mean for us as women that we look at those two candidates, as women, and many of us said, that guy, he's better for me, his voice is more true to me," Obama said. "Well, to me that just says you don't like your voice. You like the thing you're told to like."

www.cnn.com

Here's one for everybody to try to figure out.


Basically similar to the whole women who willingly wear a hijab are oppressing themselves. That make it make more sense?

Not saying I agree or disagree with either but you seem to just want to understand the perspective.

I suppose Trump would be more like a burka.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
September 28 2017 00:33 GMT
#177326
On September 28 2017 09:14 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2017 09:00 GreenHorizons wrote:
On September 28 2017 08:15 Danglars wrote:
On September 28 2017 05:40 GreenHorizons wrote:
On September 28 2017 05:22 Danglars wrote:
On September 28 2017 04:16 GreenHorizons wrote:
On September 28 2017 00:13 Danglars wrote:
On September 27 2017 23:49 Gahlo wrote:
On September 27 2017 23:35 RealityIsKing wrote:
Dave Rubin summarized the NFL situation perfectly here


I'll take the "I watch sports to escape politics." seriously when the same people want to remove the pledge from sporting events.

The pledge is not present at any sporting events.


Damn colleges indoctrinating kids.

Since the 10th anniversary of 9/11, University of Connecticut fans, players and coaches have been asked to recite the Pledge of Allegiance, first at football and now men's and women's basketball games. UConn interim athletic director Paul Pendergast has made it a policy.


Source

Great find! I stand corrected.


So we're in agreement if we want to get the politics out of sports we have to remove the national anthem and the other stuff?

I had no idea there was this basketball team out in Connecticut that recited the pledge. I’d only ever heard the anthem up until now to my recollection.

And no, we absolutely disagree.


Worth a shot. The Anthem is political, always has been. Sorry you can't see that as easily as you see that you were wrong about the pledge.

Same back at you.


just to clarify. Which of the statements do you disagree with?
That the anthem is political or that you can't be without politics unless you leave the anthem out?
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 28 2017 00:36 GMT
#177327
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
September 28 2017 01:28 GMT
#177328
On September 28 2017 09:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2017 08:15 Danglars wrote:
On September 28 2017 05:40 GreenHorizons wrote:
On September 28 2017 05:22 Danglars wrote:
On September 28 2017 04:16 GreenHorizons wrote:
On September 28 2017 00:13 Danglars wrote:
On September 27 2017 23:49 Gahlo wrote:
On September 27 2017 23:35 RealityIsKing wrote:
Dave Rubin summarized the NFL situation perfectly here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZNvlbLeFVA

I'll take the "I watch sports to escape politics." seriously when the same people want to remove the pledge from sporting events.

The pledge is not present at any sporting events.


Damn colleges indoctrinating kids.

Since the 10th anniversary of 9/11, University of Connecticut fans, players and coaches have been asked to recite the Pledge of Allegiance, first at football and now men's and women's basketball games. UConn interim athletic director Paul Pendergast has made it a policy.


Source

Great find! I stand corrected.


So we're in agreement if we want to get the politics out of sports we have to remove the national anthem and the other stuff?

I had no idea there was this basketball team out in Connecticut that recited the pledge. I’d only ever heard the anthem up until now to my recollection.

And no, we absolutely disagree.


Are you saying that the National Anthem and Pledge of Allegiance aren't political?

If we want to get politics out of sports, GH’s proposal is absolutely the wrong approach.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
September 28 2017 01:33 GMT
#177329
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23929 Posts
September 28 2017 01:34 GMT
#177330
On September 28 2017 10:28 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2017 09:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 28 2017 08:15 Danglars wrote:
On September 28 2017 05:40 GreenHorizons wrote:
On September 28 2017 05:22 Danglars wrote:
On September 28 2017 04:16 GreenHorizons wrote:
On September 28 2017 00:13 Danglars wrote:
On September 27 2017 23:49 Gahlo wrote:
On September 27 2017 23:35 RealityIsKing wrote:
Dave Rubin summarized the NFL situation perfectly here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZNvlbLeFVA

I'll take the "I watch sports to escape politics." seriously when the same people want to remove the pledge from sporting events.

The pledge is not present at any sporting events.


Damn colleges indoctrinating kids.

Since the 10th anniversary of 9/11, University of Connecticut fans, players and coaches have been asked to recite the Pledge of Allegiance, first at football and now men's and women's basketball games. UConn interim athletic director Paul Pendergast has made it a policy.


Source

Great find! I stand corrected.


So we're in agreement if we want to get the politics out of sports we have to remove the national anthem and the other stuff?

I had no idea there was this basketball team out in Connecticut that recited the pledge. I’d only ever heard the anthem up until now to my recollection.

And no, we absolutely disagree.


Are you saying that the National Anthem and Pledge of Allegiance aren't political?

If we want to get politics out of sports, GH’s proposal is absolutely the wrong approach.


So you do agree, they are political?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
September 28 2017 01:35 GMT
#177331
On September 28 2017 09:26 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
(CNN)In candid remarks Wednesday, former first lady Michelle Obama said women who voted for Republican nominee Donald Trump over Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton went against their "authentic voice" in the 2016 presidential election.

"Any woman who voted against Hillary Clinton voted against their own voice," she said at the Inbound 2017 conference in Boston, according to video from inside the event.

"What does it mean for us as women that we look at those two candidates, as women, and many of us said, that guy, he's better for me, his voice is more true to me," Obama said. "Well, to me that just says you don't like your voice. You like the thing you're told to like."

www.cnn.com

Here's one for everybody to try to figure out.

How about he's a plainly bigoted man who doesn't understand tact, brags about sexually assaulting women, and is the reason why "grab 'em by the pussy" is even a phrase. Don't be thick.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
September 28 2017 01:45 GMT
#177332
Yeah, it's not like she's saying women should have voted for Hillary just because they're women.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 28 2017 01:53 GMT
#177333
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23929 Posts
September 28 2017 01:54 GMT
#177334
Director of Michigan State Police everyone...

LANSING -- The director of the Michigan State Police apologized late Tuesday for sharing a Facebook message disparaging athletes who kneel during the national anthem as “anti-American degenerates,” but the apology came amid strong criticism and calls for her resignation or firing.

Col. Kriste Kibbey Etue shared a message on her personal Facebook page Sunday that said athletes who take a knee during the pre-game national anthem -- an action several of the players have described as a symbolic protest against racial oppression and incidents of police brutality against blacks -- are "millionaire ingrates who hate America and disrespect our armed forces and veterans" and "a bunch of rich, entitled, arrogant, ungrateful, anti-American degenerates."


Source
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
RealityIsKing
Profile Joined August 2016
613 Posts
September 28 2017 02:02 GMT
#177335
On September 28 2017 10:35 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2017 09:26 LegalLord wrote:
(CNN)In candid remarks Wednesday, former first lady Michelle Obama said women who voted for Republican nominee Donald Trump over Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton went against their "authentic voice" in the 2016 presidential election.

"Any woman who voted against Hillary Clinton voted against their own voice," she said at the Inbound 2017 conference in Boston, according to video from inside the event.

"What does it mean for us as women that we look at those two candidates, as women, and many of us said, that guy, he's better for me, his voice is more true to me," Obama said. "Well, to me that just says you don't like your voice. You like the thing you're told to like."

www.cnn.com

Here's one for everybody to try to figure out.

How about he's a plainly bigoted man who doesn't understand tact, brags about sexually assaulting women, and is the reason why "grab 'em by the pussy" is even a phrase. Don't be thick.


Well after years of being demonized by feminist, this is a backlash from straight males.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45765 Posts
September 28 2017 02:04 GMT
#177336
On September 28 2017 10:28 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2017 09:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 28 2017 08:15 Danglars wrote:
On September 28 2017 05:40 GreenHorizons wrote:
On September 28 2017 05:22 Danglars wrote:
On September 28 2017 04:16 GreenHorizons wrote:
On September 28 2017 00:13 Danglars wrote:
On September 27 2017 23:49 Gahlo wrote:
On September 27 2017 23:35 RealityIsKing wrote:
Dave Rubin summarized the NFL situation perfectly here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZNvlbLeFVA

I'll take the "I watch sports to escape politics." seriously when the same people want to remove the pledge from sporting events.

The pledge is not present at any sporting events.


Damn colleges indoctrinating kids.

Since the 10th anniversary of 9/11, University of Connecticut fans, players and coaches have been asked to recite the Pledge of Allegiance, first at football and now men's and women's basketball games. UConn interim athletic director Paul Pendergast has made it a policy.


Source

Great find! I stand corrected.


So we're in agreement if we want to get the politics out of sports we have to remove the national anthem and the other stuff?

I had no idea there was this basketball team out in Connecticut that recited the pledge. I’d only ever heard the anthem up until now to my recollection.

And no, we absolutely disagree.


Are you saying that the National Anthem and Pledge of Allegiance aren't political?

If we want to get politics out of sports, GH’s proposal is absolutely the wrong approach.


If, hypothetically, we wanted to remove all X from Y, and Z is an example of X that is currently a part of Y, then I would think Z (and other relevant elements) would be removed from Y...

Do you think the National Anthem and Pledge of Allegiance are political?

If so, then they need to be removed from sports if we want to get the entirety of politics out of sports.
If not, then they could stay if we want to get the entirety of politics out of sports.

So if you want them to stay in sports, then either you don't think they're political or you don't want politics removed from sports. Right? Which is it?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
September 28 2017 02:05 GMT
#177337
On September 28 2017 11:02 RealityIsKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2017 10:35 NewSunshine wrote:
On September 28 2017 09:26 LegalLord wrote:
(CNN)In candid remarks Wednesday, former first lady Michelle Obama said women who voted for Republican nominee Donald Trump over Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton went against their "authentic voice" in the 2016 presidential election.

"Any woman who voted against Hillary Clinton voted against their own voice," she said at the Inbound 2017 conference in Boston, according to video from inside the event.

"What does it mean for us as women that we look at those two candidates, as women, and many of us said, that guy, he's better for me, his voice is more true to me," Obama said. "Well, to me that just says you don't like your voice. You like the thing you're told to like."

www.cnn.com

Here's one for everybody to try to figure out.

How about he's a plainly bigoted man who doesn't understand tact, brags about sexually assaulting women, and is the reason why "grab 'em by the pussy" is even a phrase. Don't be thick.


Well after years of being demonized by feminist, this is a backlash from straight males.

nah, it's more a backlash from fools and jerks.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9052 Posts
September 28 2017 02:06 GMT
#177338
On September 28 2017 11:02 RealityIsKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2017 10:35 NewSunshine wrote:
On September 28 2017 09:26 LegalLord wrote:
(CNN)In candid remarks Wednesday, former first lady Michelle Obama said women who voted for Republican nominee Donald Trump over Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton went against their "authentic voice" in the 2016 presidential election.

"Any woman who voted against Hillary Clinton voted against their own voice," she said at the Inbound 2017 conference in Boston, according to video from inside the event.

"What does it mean for us as women that we look at those two candidates, as women, and many of us said, that guy, he's better for me, his voice is more true to me," Obama said. "Well, to me that just says you don't like your voice. You like the thing you're told to like."

www.cnn.com

Here's one for everybody to try to figure out.

How about he's a plainly bigoted man who doesn't understand tact, brags about sexually assaulting women, and is the reason why "grab 'em by the pussy" is even a phrase. Don't be thick.


Well after years of being demonized by feminist, this is a backlash from straight males.

Most vocally from straight white males, fools and jerks.
RealityIsKing
Profile Joined August 2016
613 Posts
September 28 2017 02:13 GMT
#177339
On September 28 2017 11:05 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2017 11:02 RealityIsKing wrote:
On September 28 2017 10:35 NewSunshine wrote:
On September 28 2017 09:26 LegalLord wrote:
(CNN)In candid remarks Wednesday, former first lady Michelle Obama said women who voted for Republican nominee Donald Trump over Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton went against their "authentic voice" in the 2016 presidential election.

"Any woman who voted against Hillary Clinton voted against their own voice," she said at the Inbound 2017 conference in Boston, according to video from inside the event.

"What does it mean for us as women that we look at those two candidates, as women, and many of us said, that guy, he's better for me, his voice is more true to me," Obama said. "Well, to me that just says you don't like your voice. You like the thing you're told to like."

www.cnn.com

Here's one for everybody to try to figure out.

How about he's a plainly bigoted man who doesn't understand tact, brags about sexually assaulting women, and is the reason why "grab 'em by the pussy" is even a phrase. Don't be thick.


Well after years of being demonized by feminist, this is a backlash from straight males.

nah, it's more a backlash from fools and jerks.


Maybe jerks to you because your party lost.

But for the most of the people that are sick of women vitctimizing themselves with the myth of doing the same job and getting paid 70% as male and also using false rape accusation to destroy innocent people's lives.

And then there are also industries based upon these scams like your mattress girls, Rolling Stones, and Anita Sarkeesians.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-28 02:18:39
September 28 2017 02:16 GMT
#177340
On September 28 2017 11:13 RealityIsKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2017 11:05 zlefin wrote:
On September 28 2017 11:02 RealityIsKing wrote:
On September 28 2017 10:35 NewSunshine wrote:
On September 28 2017 09:26 LegalLord wrote:
(CNN)In candid remarks Wednesday, former first lady Michelle Obama said women who voted for Republican nominee Donald Trump over Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton went against their "authentic voice" in the 2016 presidential election.

"Any woman who voted against Hillary Clinton voted against their own voice," she said at the Inbound 2017 conference in Boston, according to video from inside the event.

"What does it mean for us as women that we look at those two candidates, as women, and many of us said, that guy, he's better for me, his voice is more true to me," Obama said. "Well, to me that just says you don't like your voice. You like the thing you're told to like."

www.cnn.com

Here's one for everybody to try to figure out.

How about he's a plainly bigoted man who doesn't understand tact, brags about sexually assaulting women, and is the reason why "grab 'em by the pussy" is even a phrase. Don't be thick.


Well after years of being demonized by feminist, this is a backlash from straight males.

nah, it's more a backlash from fools and jerks.


Maybe jerks to you because your party lost.

But for the most of the people that are sick of women vitctimizing themselves with the myth of doing the same job and getting paid 70% as male and also using false rape accusation to destroy innocent people's lives.

And then there are also industries based upon these scams like your mattress girls, Rolling Stones, and Anita Sarkeesians.

not jerks because my party lost; jerks from an objective standpoint. (as objective as such things can be at least). mostly fools though; with a sprinkling of jerks. not surprising you're incapable of seeing that.
your understanding of the realities of sexual assault issues is as dismal as i'd expect.
your claim of there being "industries" of such, is as nonsensical as always.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
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