EPTEDIT: this also applies to Trump voting 'constitutional conservatives' who are all of a sudden okay with the President mounting pressure campaigns against speech he doesn't like.
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Wulfey_LA
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EDIT: this also applies to Trump voting 'constitutional conservatives' who are all of a sudden okay with the President mounting pressure campaigns against speech he doesn't like. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On September 28 2017 03:59 xDaunt wrote: Puerto Rico has never been known for industrial efficiency. Might be a good time to deploy the military to help them have a few more hands to deal with it though. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
SINCE MOVING INTO the White House months ago, Jared Kushner—senior advisor and son-in-law to the President, savior of the Middle East, and possible person of interest in a federal investigation—has amassed a rather extensive project portfolio. The issues under Kushner's purview include negotiating peace between Israel and Palestine, fixing the opioid crisis, updating technology across the entire federal government, and spearheading criminal justice reform, to name just a few. It seems like a nearly impossible set of challenges for anyone to tackle, and even more so for Kushner. Because in addition to not having any previous government experience, the former real estate exec has demonstrated repeated difficulty filling out simple, routine forms correctly. This includes his own voter registration form. According to the records held by the New York State Board of Elections, Jared Corey Kushner is a woman. Is Kushner a woman? Did he just accidentally fill out the form incorrectly? Is he the victim of a malicious voter impersonation scheme? Unfortunately, there's absolutely no way to know for sure, because he has yet to provide WIRED with a comment. But based on his recent history with paperwork, option two seems like a pretty safe bet. This past July, for instance, CBS reported that Jared had updated a disclosure form necessary to obtain security clearance no fewer than three separate times. Kushner originally filed the form on January 18 with zero names listed under a section that asked about foreign contacts. He later claimed his team had accidentally hit send before he had a chance to fully fill it in, though according to The Washington Post, the form also got the dates of his graduate degrees incorrect, and even omitted his father-in-law's address. He submitted a supplemental form acknowledging that the original form was incomplete the following day. The second time Kushner attempted to fix his security clearance form, sometime in May, he added over 100 calls and meetings with foreign contacts. But soon after, it came to light that had attended a meeting with Donald Trump Jr. and Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, who had allegedly offered damaging information about Hillary Clinton. Kushner submitted the security form a third time to include, as he put it, "the person who has since been identified as a Russian attorney," on June 21. How, exactly, Kushner managed to bungle the form multiple times has been the subject of much debate, as well as of his own testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee. But regardless of the cause, his apparently chronic inability to correctly fill out boxes is troubling coming from the man who's supposed to overhaul the entire United States government. "Kushner can't even fill out the most basic paperwork without screwing it up, so it's a mystery why anyone thinks he's somehow going to bring peace to the Middle East," says Brad Bainum, a spokesperson for American Bridge, a liberal opposition research hub and the group that first identified Jared's voter slip-up. "Would anyone but the president's son-in-law still have a West Wing job after repeated disclosure errors and a botched a security clearance form?" The mix-up seems especially surprising given the White House's intense focus on allegedly rampant voter fraud. So far, its evidence seems to rely mostly on dead people not removing their names from voter rolls and simple clerical errors. The bar for inferring nefarious intent isn't exactly high. But when it comes to whether Jared's misstated gender constitutes a voter fraud violation, the chances seem slim. "There has to be an intent to give the false information," says Loyola Law School professor Justin Levitt. "If he (for some reason) knowingly registered as a woman—for what purpose, I could not guess—that might be described as voter fraud, though it would have negligible effect on the determination of his eligibility, and so wouldn't amount to much anyway." Still, better to be safe than sorry. We reached out to Kris Kobach of the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity for comment on Jared's potentially improper voting status. We'll update if and when we hear back. Source | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States22736 Posts
On September 28 2017 00:13 Danglars wrote: The pledge is not present at any sporting events. Damn colleges indoctrinating kids. Since the 10th anniversary of 9/11, University of Connecticut fans, players and coaches have been asked to recite the Pledge of Allegiance, first at football and now men's and women's basketball games. UConn interim athletic director Paul Pendergast has made it a policy. Source | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 28 2017 04:00 LegalLord wrote: Might be a good time to deploy the military to help them have a few more hands to deal with it though. Apparently lack of gas and undamaged vehicles to transport things is a real problem. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35093 Posts
On September 28 2017 03:01 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: In more lighthearted news, Jared Kushner might be a woman https://www.wired.com/story/jared-kushner-voter-registration-woman Though extremely unlikely, if true, Trump is trying to keep trans people out of the military because he can't keep them out of his daughter. lol | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
SACRAMENTO — The Trump administration may appear to control climate policy in Washington, but the nation’s most dynamic environmental regulator is here in California. Mary D. Nichols, California’s electric-car-driving, hoodie-wearing, 72-year-old air quality regulator, is pressing ahead with a far-reaching agenda of environmental and climate actions. She says she will not let the Trump administration stand in her way. As chairwoman of the California Air Resources Board, or CARB, Ms. Nichols is the de facto enforcer of the single biggest step the United States has taken to combat the effects of climate change: standards adopted under the Obama administration that mandate a deep cut in emissions from the 190 million passenger cars on America’s roads. Together, those vehicles regularly emit more earth-warming gases than the country’s power plants. At the request of the major automakers, the Environmental Protection Agency officially opened a review of those standards last month. The move was seen as the prelude to a loosening of those targets, which require manufacturers to nearly double the average fuel economy of new cars and light trucks by 2025. But a peculiar confluence of history, legal precedent and regulatory defiance has given California unique authority to write its own air pollution rules. And because 12 other states now follow California’s standards, the state finds itself in an extraordinary position to stage a regulatory mutiny of sorts — with much of the country’s car market in tow. “We’re standing firm. We’re prepared to sue. We’re prepared to do what we need to do,” Ms. Nichols said in a recent interview. “We aren’t going anywhere.” At stake in the dispute between officials in Sacramento, the state capital, and Washington is a measure that the Obama administration estimated would eliminate as much as six billion metric tons of greenhouse gas emissions and save consumers more than $1 trillion at the pump over the lifetime of the cars affected. For now, Scott Pruitt, the administrator of the E.P.A., has said that he will not seek to revoke the federal waiver that allows California to set auto emissions standards — an action that would likely propel the issue to court. Automakers, similarly, have not publicly asked for such a move. Still, the auto industry has hardly conceded defeat, several industry officials said. The car companies are urging California to negotiate a loosening of the current standards. “We all have a common stake in working together,” said Mitch Bainwol, president and chief executive of the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, which represents 12 major automakers in the United States. Automakers, he said, want “the certainty of achievable targets.” CARB’s Arie Jan Haagen-Smit Laboratory in El Monte, Calif., is a reminder of the resources at the agency’s command. At the lab, 120 technicians measure emissions on new engines before they can be used in cars sold in California. They also pull cars from the road to make sure older models stay compliant. A failed test can delay certification, or in the case of an older model, an expensive recall. Engineers at the lab helped expose Volkswagen’s diesel emissions cheating, a scandal that affected about 600,000 cars in the United States. The lab is now strengthening its testing, and will move to a new state-of-the-art new facility in Riverside by 2020. Even as CARB remains steadfast, however, Ms. Nichols is eager to persuade automakers that they ultimately stand to benefit from stricter fuel economy rules. This year, Britain and France proposed to end the sale of new gasoline and diesel cars by 2040. Volvo recently said that the models it introduces starting in 2019 will be either hybrids or powered solely by batteries. Without an aggressive shift toward zero- and low-emissions cars, the American auto industry risks becoming a global laggard, Ms. Nichols said. It is no time, she said, to be meddling with standards already in place. “We want to start conversations about post-2025,” Ms. Nichols said. “That’s what we’re getting ready for.” Source | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21377 Posts
On September 28 2017 04:42 Gahlo wrote: Though extremely unlikely, if true, Trump is trying to keep trans people out of the military because he can't keep them out of his daughter. lol No one is actually saying Kushner is a women. The article is making fun of the fact that a person in a high position of power in the government failed at ticking the correct gender box on a form and using this instance to shine a further light on his lies on security forms. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
The majority of American voters say that President Donald Trump is not "fit to serve as president," according to a new Quinnipiac University poll released Wednesday, with 51 percent of respondents saying they are embarrassed to have Trump serve as president. The poll reports that 59 percent say Trump is not honest, 60 percent say he does not have good leadership skills and 61 percent say he does not share their values. Notably, voters say 69-26 percent that Trump should stop tweeting. The survey highlighted deep divisions along racial lines. Fifty percent of white voters said that Trump is fit to serve, while 94 percent of Black voters say that he is not fit for the role and Hispanic voters were split 60-40 percent. Overall, 62 percent of American voters disapprove of the way the president has handled race relations. Sixty percent of voters said that Trump is doing more to divide the country than unite it. The poll also revealed divisions among men and women. Men were divided 49-49 percent, while 63 percent of women said he is not fit. More Democrats than Republicans disapprove of Trump's fitness for office. Ninety-four percent of Democrats say Trump is not fit to be president, while 84 percent of Republicans responded that he's fit for the job. Independent voters were split 57-40 percent. Forty-nine percent of American voters are in favor of Democrats winning control of the U.S. Senate in 2018. The poll was conducted Sept. 21-26 by phone, among 1,412 voters nationwide. Source | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States22736 Posts
Remember, Republicans are trying to elect people who think Muslims should be banned from congress, but it's shrouding statues that is the real dangerous slippery slope. We don't have any of the 40% who think trump is honest do we? I'm terribly curious how anyone could legitimately arrive at that conclusion. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
When Donald Trump used the phrase “alt-left” to describe the anti-neo-Nazi protesters in Charlottesville last week, most people had no idea what he meant. I’m actually not sure he knew what he meant. “What about the alt-left that came charging at the, as you say, the ‘alt-right’? Do they have any assemblage of guilt?” Trump said during a rambling press conference. If the alt-left exists, it’s probably best represented by “antifa” (short for “anti-fascist”) — a loose network of left-wing activists who physically resist people they consider fascists. These are often the scruffy, bandana-clad people who show up at alt-right rallies or speaking events in order to shut them down before they happen, and they openly embrace violence as a justifiable means to that end. Antifa is not a monolithic organization, nor does it have anything like a hierarchical leadership structure. It’s an umbrella group that shares a number of causes, the most important of which is resisting white nationalist movements. Adherents are mostly socialists, anarchists, and communists who, according to Mark Bray, a historian at Dartmouth College and author of Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook, “reject turning to the police or the state to halt the advance of white supremacy. Instead they advocate popular opposition to fascism as we witnessed in Charlottesville.” I reached out to Bray to discuss the group and its burgeoning impact on American politics. He’s sympathetic to antifa’s cause and makes no effort to hide that. He describes the book as “an unabashedly partisan call to arms that aims to equip a new generation of anti-fascists with the history and theory necessary to defeat the resurgent far right.” In this interview, we talk about the ethics of “militant anti-fascism,” why groups like antifa don’t care if they hurt the Democratic Party, and why resisting fascism in a liberal democracy poses a unique challenge to conventional political norms. Our conversation, lightly edited for clarity, follows. www.vox.com Don't know if this was posted (it's a month old) but I found it to be a good read. Can't say I agree with everything that was said but the information described quite accurately paints antifa as the dangerous organization that it is. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28561 Posts
On September 28 2017 02:37 LegalLord wrote: It took just four short posts to go from the pledge of allegiance to full blown "look at the surface level similarity to HITLER and STALIN!" It would be funny if it weren't dangerous. Sad thing is, the Europeans who are so quick to cry fascist at everything that moves are unwilling to draw attention to genuine fascism when it comes up. I don't doubt this utter lack of perspective will be lost on the individuals I am talking about. What examples of genuine fascism are these Europeans unwilling to draw attention to? I've seen you claim 'it's ridiculous to claim this is fascism' on many occasions, but I've yet to see you go 'this looks like fascism', certainly not to the disagreement of these Europeans. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
Great find! I stand corrected. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On September 28 2017 05:20 Liquid`Drone wrote: What examples of genuine fascism are these Europeans unwilling to draw attention to? I've seen you claim 'it's ridiculous to claim this is fascism' on many occasions, but I've yet to see you go 'this looks like fascism', certainly not to the disagreement of these Europeans. There's a lot to unpack here. I'll answer you later. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States43810 Posts
On September 28 2017 04:42 Gahlo wrote: Though extremely unlikely, if true, Trump is trying to keep trans people out of the military because he can't keep them out of his daughter. lol That's amazing and it brightened my day. Lock her up!!! | ||
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Gahlo
United States35093 Posts
On September 28 2017 04:59 Gorsameth wrote: No one is actually saying Kushner is a women. The article is making fun of the fact that a person in a high position of power in the government failed at ticking the correct gender box on a form and using this instance to shine a further light on his lies on security forms. I'm clearly referencing the state of the form, not the absentmindedness of the person filling it out. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States22736 Posts
So we're in agreement if we want to get the politics out of sports we have to remove the national anthem and the other stuff? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Love that Miller is basically a one man show that picks which nation we piss off for literally no reason. This type of shit is dangerous to Americans that are abroad. | ||
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