EPTOr you could stick to traveling to countries where Trump is viewed favorably. Which limits you to... well. Shit.
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
Or you could stick to traveling to countries where Trump is viewed favorably. Which limits you to... well. Shit. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On March 27 2017 09:43 LegalLord wrote: I personally prefer the opposite approach - pretend that we're all stupid enough to be completely on board with all the crazy stuff Trump did and does. Or you could stick to traveling to countries where Trump is viewed favorably. Which limits you to... well. Shit. Zimbabwe, Mugabe is a fan http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-39027611 | ||
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Simberto
Germany12080 Posts
Maybe he just falls back to tactics that have worked with his business in the past? If you are the big fish, you can probably bully people by sending them invoices, especially in the US legal system where money makes right. But he has to realize that that shit doesn't work when dealing with other nations as a statesman. I am just wondering how other politicians deal with him. My guess is trying to figure out if playing him to gain something or just ignoring him completely until he (hopefully) goes away in 4 years. | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
On March 27 2017 09:47 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Zimbabwe, Mugabe is a fan http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-39027611 Saudi Arabia was pretty happy. not sure it will stay that way when the lawsuits start being filed for 9/11 reperations though. Merkel should just send him the NATO treaty and tell him to read it. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24505 Posts
On March 27 2017 09:56 Simberto wrote: Gotta say, the whole invoice thing, if true, is hilarious. Either Trump actually thinks people take him seriously and will be intimidated by such a silly gesture, or...maybe he is joking? I have no better explanation. Either really, really stupid or having a weird sense of humor. Maybe he just falls back to tactics that have worked with his business in the past? If you are the big fish, you can probably bully people by sending them invoices, especially in the US legal system where money makes right. But he has to realize that that shit doesn't work when dealing with other nations as a statesman. I am just wondering how other politicians deal with him. My guess is trying to figure out if playing him to gain something or just ignoring him completely until he (hopefully) goes away in 4 years. I imagine it's kind of like dealing with someone else's obnoxious child at a restaurant. You ignore as much as yuo can, try to get their handlers on board with doing something, then eventually you just... | ||
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Introvert
United States5084 Posts
On March 27 2017 09:56 Simberto wrote: Gotta say, the whole invoice thing, if true, is hilarious. Either Trump actually thinks people take him seriously and will be intimidated by such a silly gesture, or...maybe he is joking? I have no better explanation. Either really, really stupid or having a weird sense of humor. Maybe he just falls back to tactics that have worked with his business in the past? If you are the big fish, you can probably bully people by sending them invoices, especially in the US legal system where money makes right. But he has to realize that that shit doesn't work when dealing with other nations as a statesman. I am just wondering how other politicians deal with him. My guess is trying to figure out if playing him to gain something or just ignoring him completely until he (hopefully) goes away in 4 years. At the start his approval among Republicans was high (still is) but so far I think his ineffectiveness is giving them more and more spine. Democrats were already is obstruction mode, but even gopers will start distancing from him and opposing him. Trump needs to get it together fast. | ||
KwarK
United States44442 Posts
On March 27 2017 06:12 GreenHorizons wrote: This is either too dumb or too meta for me...Who's he digging with this? Meanwhile Ryan's running the line that the Freedom Caucus actually fucked the Dems because Obamacare is about to collapse but if the Republicans replaced it before it collapsed then nobody would know so actually he's trying to help the Dems and the Freedom Caucus is their enemy. They need to work out their message. | ||
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KwarK
United States44442 Posts
On March 27 2017 08:31 Nyxisto wrote: Jesus this is cringe worthy. With his next level power games Trump could come straight out of the pick up artist community. Merkel should send him a bag of monopoly money Merkel should say Wow, did you make this all by yourself? That's awesome, good job. I'll tell you what, we're gonna go back to Germany and we're going to put this on the fridge. And not just my fridge, no, we're going to pass this around, a German family will be picked at random and given it to put on their fridge for a week before forwarding it to another. That way as many people can display this as possible. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
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To get in, clubgoers had been searched with an electronic wand to detect hidden weapons. Still, the witness told CNN affiliate WLWT that he heard about 20 gunshots in the club. One person was killed and 15 wounded. Police said several people had been able to sneak guns into the club and they believe more than one person was involved in the shooting. They said it might have developed from a dispute that started earlier in the day. The shooting was not related to terrorism, authorities said. Source | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
Doing it in that particular way is probably not the play, though. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On March 27 2017 11:11 Belisarius wrote: I mean if all the NATO countries really did sign a pledge to get defense spending to 2% and haven't done so, it's not unreasonable to push Merkel on it. Doing it in that particular way is probably not the play, though. 2% is kinda excessive for most of them, their defense needs simply aren't high enough to justify 2% spending. iirc it's not really a pledge in any formal sense, but more of an understanding and a goal. not sure how many of them actually care to try to get there though, and they really don't have a reason to. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On March 27 2017 11:35 zlefin wrote: 2% is kinda excessive for most of them, their defense needs simply aren't high enough to justify 2% spending. iirc it's not really a pledge in any formal sense, but more of an understanding and a goal. not sure how many of them actually care to try to get there though, and they really don't have a reason to. I'm personally not going to be surprised when he starts demanding tribute to protect europe from Russia | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
On March 27 2017 11:11 Belisarius wrote: I mean if all the NATO countries really did sign a pledge to get defense spending to 2% and haven't done so, it's not unreasonable to push Merkel on it. Doing it in that particular way is probably not the play, though. increasing funding is not equal to owing money. owing money implies that they have a debt. So the idea that they owe money is at best a mischaracterization of what is actually going on. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
At one point, the paper said, House Speaker Paul Ryan (Wis.) got down on one knee to plead with Rep. Don Young of Alaska – the longest-serving Republican in Congress -- to support the bill. (He was unsuccessful.) http://thehill.com/homenews/house/325865-report-ryan-pleaded-on-one-knee-for-obamacare-repeal-vote Ouch. Story it's referencing is here and was written during the run up to the vote cancellation: https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/gop-health-care-plan-hangs-in-balance-as-house-leaders-push-for-thursday-floor-vote/2017/03/23/6e8bf05a-0fbd-11e7-9d5a-a83e627dc120_story.html?utm_term=.a64458cfcbc5 It's just a small moment of many, but it's a fairly iconic image of Ryan trying to be speaker. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On March 27 2017 11:36 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote: increasing funding is not equal to owing money. owing money implies that they have a debt. So the idea that they owe money is at best a mischaracterization of what is actually going on. It's more along the lines of a provocation. Especially because Germany isn't going to pay a goddamn cent and everyone knows it. Though if they do, we have our wall, with cash to spare. | ||
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a_flayer
Netherlands2826 Posts
On March 27 2017 11:36 Nevuk wrote: I'm personally not going to be surprised when he starts demanding tribute to protect europe from Russia For me the election of Trump was simply "taking the mask off". From the obvious national plutocracy to the international economic bullying and warmongering, it's all standard American practice in my eyes. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On March 27 2017 11:35 zlefin wrote: 2% is kinda excessive for most of them, their defense needs simply aren't high enough to justify 2% spending. iirc it's not really a pledge in any formal sense, but more of an understanding and a goal. not sure how many of them actually care to try to get there though, and they really don't have a reason to. it's about as binding as the climate goals he trashed~ | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
On March 27 2017 14:09 LegalLord wrote: Next thing you know, Trump is going to start demanding that Europeans compensate the US for their fair share of their non-commitment to the Iraq War. I'd say he's more likely to want payment in return for the Marshall plan. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
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