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Rep. Poe resigns from House Freedom Caucus over health care stance
Rep. Ted Poe announced Sunday he has resigned from the conservative House Freedom Caucus over its opposition to the Republican health care plan.
"In order to deliver on the conservative agenda we have promised the American people for eight years, we must come together to find solutions to move this country forward," the Texas Republican said in a statement. "Saying no is easy, leading is hard, but that is what we were elected to do. Leaving this caucus will allow me to be a more effective member of Congress and advocate for the people of Texas. It is time to lead."
Bad looks all around for the Rs
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Good news is that it's been indicated that Trump is going to court some moderate Democrats for his tax reform, which means it's possibly not going to be as embarrassingly bad as the ACHA was.
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On March 27 2017 05:34 darthfoley wrote:Rep. Poe resigns from House Freedom Caucus over health care stanceShow nested quote +Rep. Ted Poe announced Sunday he has resigned from the conservative House Freedom Caucus over its opposition to the Republican health care plan.
"In order to deliver on the conservative agenda we have promised the American people for eight years, we must come together to find solutions to move this country forward," the Texas Republican said in a statement. "Saying no is easy, leading is hard, but that is what we were elected to do. Leaving this caucus will allow me to be a more effective member of Congress and advocate for the people of Texas. It is time to lead." Bad looks all around for the Rs
People leaving the Freedom Caucus and wanting to actually govern is not bad for the Republicans.
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On March 27 2017 05:35 LightSpectra wrote:
Good news is that it's been indicated that Trump is going to court some moderate Democrats for his tax reform, which means it's possibly not going to be as embarrassingly bad as the ACHA was.
It's the only choice he has. The Republicans won't cooperate, simple as that.
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On March 27 2017 05:41 LegalLord wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2017 05:35 LightSpectra wrote:
Good news is that it's been indicated that Trump is going to court some moderate Democrats for his tax reform, which means it's possibly not going to be as embarrassingly bad as the ACHA was. It's the only choice he has. The Republicans won't cooperate, simple as that.
I don't think it's quite so simple. The real reason healthcare reform is such a big mess is because Republicans have spent the past decade spreading preposterous lies about it. So they had to come up with a bill that is both an improvement on the current situation and somehow reconciles their own anti-ACA propaganda at the same time, which is just not going to happen.
On the other hand all they have to do for tax reform is follow the proud footsteps of Reagan and GWB by invoking Thatcherist mumbo-jumbo about employment, inflation, the Laffer curve, etc. They can easily court some moderate Democrats in that regard by throwing in some pork and ear marks.
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On March 27 2017 05:37 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2017 05:34 darthfoley wrote:Rep. Poe resigns from House Freedom Caucus over health care stanceRep. Ted Poe announced Sunday he has resigned from the conservative House Freedom Caucus over its opposition to the Republican health care plan.
"In order to deliver on the conservative agenda we have promised the American people for eight years, we must come together to find solutions to move this country forward," the Texas Republican said in a statement. "Saying no is easy, leading is hard, but that is what we were elected to do. Leaving this caucus will allow me to be a more effective member of Congress and advocate for the people of Texas. It is time to lead." Bad looks all around for the Rs People leaving the Freedom Caucus and wanting to actually govern is not bad for the Republicans.
He left because he wanted this garbage bill passed, not exactly a 10/10 reason.
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On March 27 2017 05:37 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2017 05:34 darthfoley wrote:Rep. Poe resigns from House Freedom Caucus over health care stanceRep. Ted Poe announced Sunday he has resigned from the conservative House Freedom Caucus over its opposition to the Republican health care plan.
"In order to deliver on the conservative agenda we have promised the American people for eight years, we must come together to find solutions to move this country forward," the Texas Republican said in a statement. "Saying no is easy, leading is hard, but that is what we were elected to do. Leaving this caucus will allow me to be a more effective member of Congress and advocate for the people of Texas. It is time to lead." Bad looks all around for the Rs People leaving the Freedom Caucus and wanting to actually govern is not bad for the Republicans.
The optics of infighting and bickering when you have both chambers and the White House looks bad.
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considering dems are going to be fighting for either a public option, lowering medicare age limit, or more money for subdidizing combined with higher penalties I don't see much room for compromise. as Krugman says:
He called this back in January
https://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/there-will-be-no-obamacare-replacement/?smid=tw-share
Krugman also called out Ryan way back in 2010. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/06/opinion/06krugman.html
maybe they'll manage to do little stuff like try to patch the hole in coverage (which republicans have refused to address for years) and pass something supposedly to lower drug prices (i would be shocked if anything they passed actually did). meanwhile Dems just need to switch to "we know it has problems so here's how to fix it." and start offering things.
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On March 27 2017 05:55 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2017 05:37 Gorsameth wrote:On March 27 2017 05:34 darthfoley wrote:Rep. Poe resigns from House Freedom Caucus over health care stanceRep. Ted Poe announced Sunday he has resigned from the conservative House Freedom Caucus over its opposition to the Republican health care plan.
"In order to deliver on the conservative agenda we have promised the American people for eight years, we must come together to find solutions to move this country forward," the Texas Republican said in a statement. "Saying no is easy, leading is hard, but that is what we were elected to do. Leaving this caucus will allow me to be a more effective member of Congress and advocate for the people of Texas. It is time to lead." Bad looks all around for the Rs People leaving the Freedom Caucus and wanting to actually govern is not bad for the Republicans. The optics of infighting and bickering when you have both chambers and the White House looks bad.
The GOP has been fighting the Freedom Caucus since the Tea party started primarying moderate Republicans. This is nothing new.
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This is either too dumb or too meta for me...Who's he digging with this?
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slamming republicans I guess. Does he realize that like 70 percent of America wants funding for Planned parenthood?
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Wasn't his official stance just yesterday that he didn't much want this bill to pass or care about it? Or was that just a rumbling I heard from his minions elsewhere on the 'net?
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it sounds like he's attackign the freedom caucus. and saying they're kinda allied with/helping the Dems.
it also could just be filling the airwaves as a distraction.
or throw out a lot of stuff, and see what sticks.
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On March 27 2017 06:21 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Wasn't his official stance just yesterday that he didn't much want this bill to pass or care about it? Or was that just a rumbling I heard from his minions elsewhere on the 'net?
I think his stance yesterday was that it was all the democrats fault and that Obama care is falling apart and that people shouldn't worry. Maybe he realized how contradictory that was.
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Now this is some next level shit!!! 5D Chess diplomacy for sure
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-angela-merkel-nato-bill-defence-ignore-usa-germany-spending-a7650636.html
Donald Trump printed out made-up £300bn Nato invoice and handed it to Angela Merkel
Angela Merkel will reportedly ignore Donald Trump’s attempts to extricate £300bn from Germany for what he deems to be owed contributions to Nato.
The US President is said to have had an “invoice” printed out outlining the sum estimated by his aides as covering Germany’s unpaid contributions for defence. Said to be presented during private talks in Washington, the move has been met with criticism from German and Nato officials.
While the figure presented to the Germans was not revealed by either side, Nato countries pledged in 2014 to spend two per cent of their GDP on defence, something only a handful of nations – including the UK, Greece, Poland and Estonia – currently do.
But the bill has been backdated even further to 2002, the year Mrs Merkel’s predecessor, Gerhard Schröder, pledged to spend more on defence.
Mr Trump reportedly instructed aides to calculate how much German spending fell below two per cent over the past 12 years, then added interest.
Estimates suggest the total came to £300bn, with official figures citing the shortfall to be around £250bn plus £50bn in interest added on.
The Times quoted a German government minister as saying the move was “outrageous”.
The unnamed minister said: “The concept behind putting out such demands is to intimidate the other side, but the Chancellor took it calmly and will not respond to such provocations.”
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I heard a news leak like 2-3 days ago that Trump did that. It's a beauty of Trumpism.
If they decline they should be told that they are now on the hook for 2.2% for insolence and excessive leeching.
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Jesus this is cringe worthy. With his next level power games Trump could come straight out of the pick up artist community. Merkel should send him a bag of monopoly money
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I got an idea how to fix it. The US starts to take responsibility for the refugee crisis (plural even) they started, which would free up 22 billion euros in germany. We then take those 22 billion and just pump them into the military. The US cuts military spending by around 0.3%, enough to pay for what they're responsible for in the first place.
Those 22 billion will bring germany well over the 2% (for now), everyone is happy. Of course, the US would have to start coping with dem brown people somehow, but as legallord put it, you can shoot them at the airport or build them an island or whatever, they're not our problem then anymore.
If we're talking "fair", and that's what your ape is constantly touting about, then it's not just on europe to pick up the tab for the NATO (which they should, don't get me wrong - i don't disagree with an increase in military spending) - but also on the US to pick up the tab for the mess they created, rather than just ignoring the fact that it is responsible for hundreds of billions of dollars spent in europe.
Fair is "both ways".
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I guess this is one upside for not traveling abroad anymore. I don't have to bring a sign that says "Please don't judge me by my president's conduct."
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