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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-12 14:56:15
March 12 2016 14:55 GMT
#65761
what people call bullying is just a bad case of the basic mechanism of social sanction. there should not be violence involved but it is okay to regulate some speech and thoughts just to achieve a better social outcome. you can argue that this pc policing is not effective in changing or educating people deep down, and really i would bias heavily in favor of such long term looking solutions, but the basic approach of looking at some groups as a problem to be eliminated is not bad.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
March 12 2016 15:06 GMT
#65762
On March 12 2016 23:46 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2016 23:39 zeo wrote:
On March 12 2016 23:30 oneofthem wrote:
i wonder if they can count zeo's propaganda work as part of gdp.

Keep up the ad hominem's, you are only proving my point. People aren't going to back down to bullies.

Looks like Trump already cancelled a downtown Cincinnati rally so I wouldn't get ahead of yourself

On the subject of people being ahead of themselves:
Update:Donald Trump has scheduled a campaign stop at the Savannah Center in West Chester on Sunday at 2 p.m.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2016/03/11/cincy-doesnt-make-trumps-schedule/81666034/

Awkward.
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
March 12 2016 15:12 GMT
#65763
On March 13 2016 00:06 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2016 23:46 farvacola wrote:
On March 12 2016 23:39 zeo wrote:
On March 12 2016 23:30 oneofthem wrote:
i wonder if they can count zeo's propaganda work as part of gdp.

Keep up the ad hominem's, you are only proving my point. People aren't going to back down to bullies.

Looks like Trump already cancelled a downtown Cincinnati rally so I wouldn't get ahead of yourself

On the subject of people being ahead of themselves:
Show nested quote +
Update:Donald Trump has scheduled a campaign stop at the Savannah Center in West Chester on Sunday at 2 p.m.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2016/03/11/cincy-doesnt-make-trumps-schedule/81666034/

Awkward.

What's awkward is canceling a downtown rally and then rescheduling an event at a much smaller banquet hall in the much safer suburbs
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
trulojucreathrma.com
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
United States327 Posts
March 12 2016 15:12 GMT
#65764
On March 12 2016 23:55 Kipsate wrote:
These violent protestors only seem to play in Trumps's hand.


Trump lost. His event got canceled.
If a person got beat up was hospitalized, then Trump wins.


The logic is all backwards. That's why the pundits get everything wrong.

Trump losing when all his talks about is winning and about how he is a winner; that doesn't help him.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-12 15:20:33
March 12 2016 15:19 GMT
#65765
On March 12 2016 23:55 Kipsate wrote:
These violent protestors only seem to play in Trumps's hand.


They kind of do and kind of don't.

On the one hand, it cements any us vs them mentality he wants to send.

On another level, I wouldn't be surprised if the spark for this particular fire involved someone initiating violence, then someone being violent back (as Trump tacitly supported), and then everything snowballed out of control. Kind of a perfect demonstration of how that idea is fundamentally stupid and destructive compared to the Golden Rule that civilized humans should use at least when it comes to low level altercations.

Not that anyone will make that connection even instinctively, so the point is fairly moot.
Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
March 12 2016 15:20 GMT
#65766
The amount of passive aggressiveness and snark in farvacola's posts is great. My favourite poster for sure, i especially like the smiley face at the end of each comment
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
March 12 2016 15:25 GMT
#65767
On March 13 2016 00:12 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2016 00:06 zeo wrote:
On March 12 2016 23:46 farvacola wrote:
On March 12 2016 23:39 zeo wrote:
On March 12 2016 23:30 oneofthem wrote:
i wonder if they can count zeo's propaganda work as part of gdp.

Keep up the ad hominem's, you are only proving my point. People aren't going to back down to bullies.

Looks like Trump already cancelled a downtown Cincinnati rally so I wouldn't get ahead of yourself

On the subject of people being ahead of themselves:
Update:Donald Trump has scheduled a campaign stop at the Savannah Center in West Chester on Sunday at 2 p.m.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2016/03/11/cincy-doesnt-make-trumps-schedule/81666034/

Awkward.

What's awkward is canceling a downtown rally and then rescheduling an event at a much smaller banquet hall in the much safer suburbs

There was never any rally scheduled in Cincinnati anyway, see for yourself (Trumps event page from 2 days ago):
https://web.archive.org/web/20160310133944/http://www.donaldjtrump.com/schedule

After the media started pushing the Trump got canceled story he probably said fuck it, I'll go to Cincinnati anyway.
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
trulojucreathrma.com
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
United States327 Posts
March 12 2016 15:28 GMT
#65768
On March 13 2016 00:25 zeo wrote:
After the media started pushing the Trump got canceled story he probably said fuck it, I'll go to Cincinnati anyway.


Then he can call them liars. And there is an event, so he wins, gets to berate people and blame the media.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 12 2016 15:30 GMT
#65769
The media is always to blame. Its not like Trump ever told his supporters to assault and attack protesters or that they should rough them up. No way said that and let it be caught on video, several times.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
March 12 2016 15:32 GMT
#65770
It's inevitable that Trumps wins the nomination.

Liberal media and the whole establishment remain ignorant to the fact that atacking someone 24/7 on the media means he gets 20 times the exposure of all other candidates together.

How do you think it looks to non-liberals when a bunch of people you dislike (liberal establishment) spend all their time name calling someone?
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-12 15:36:44
March 12 2016 15:34 GMT
#65771
On March 13 2016 00:25 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2016 00:12 farvacola wrote:
On March 13 2016 00:06 zeo wrote:
On March 12 2016 23:46 farvacola wrote:
On March 12 2016 23:39 zeo wrote:
On March 12 2016 23:30 oneofthem wrote:
i wonder if they can count zeo's propaganda work as part of gdp.

Keep up the ad hominem's, you are only proving my point. People aren't going to back down to bullies.

Looks like Trump already cancelled a downtown Cincinnati rally so I wouldn't get ahead of yourself

On the subject of people being ahead of themselves:
Update:Donald Trump has scheduled a campaign stop at the Savannah Center in West Chester on Sunday at 2 p.m.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2016/03/11/cincy-doesnt-make-trumps-schedule/81666034/

Awkward.

What's awkward is canceling a downtown rally and then rescheduling an event at a much smaller banquet hall in the much safer suburbs

There was never any rally scheduled in Cincinnati anyway, see for yourself (Trumps event page from 2 days ago):
https://web.archive.org/web/20160310133944/http://www.donaldjtrump.com/schedule

After the media started pushing the Trump got canceled story he probably said fuck it, I'll go to Cincinnati anyway.

lol, excellent. It's taken me only a few posts to get you to resort to that crazy, revisionist "it never actually happened that way" style of argumentation that we all know and love you for. But yes, articles such as this one:
Donald Trump is coming to Cincinnati this weekend ahead of Tuesday's Ohio primary.

The Republican presidential hopeful is scheduled to hold a rally from 12 p.m. to 1:30 p.m. on Sunday at the Duke Energy Convention Center, The Enquirer has learned.

Doors open at 9 a.m. Trump's campaign has rented enough space at the Downtown venue to hold 7,000 people.

Trump, the GOP front-runner, will make his first visit to Cincinnati since he entered the race. Two polls released early Wednesday showed the billionaire real estate developer leading the Republican field, including Ohio Gov. John Kasich, in the Buckeye State.

posted at 11:45 AM on Thursday, are entirely made-up and created by the PC police MAINSTREAM MEDIA. Trump never even wanted to go Cincinnati prior to the Chicago cancellation, but hey, sounds like a good idea! Gosh, what a maneuver Trump. You're the best.

Donald Trump coming to Cincinnati

Also, it looks like we've got our resident Chilean conservative in the mix now with another confident and well-informed vote for Trump! Either of you wanna take bets or what?
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-12 15:38:59
March 12 2016 15:35 GMT
#65772
He managed to win over the hearts of 8.5% of america with this 24/7 coverage and won the nomination with it! Yay! Meanwhile the rest of the country is all about anything but Trump.



Man, the twitter spin machine is running at 2000%. Of course its Voxday that is claiming it was a "false flag".
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-12 15:40:25
March 12 2016 15:38 GMT
#65773
On March 13 2016 00:35 Plansix wrote:
He managed to win over the hearts of 8.5% of america with this 24/7 coverage and won the nomination with it! Yay! Meanwhile the rest of the country is all about anything but Trump.


Yeah, I'm sure I imagined the whole "people who never vote are showing up to vote from Trump thing".

What do you think will happen when he is up against Hillary and his message is "bring down the political stablishment?"
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
March 12 2016 15:46 GMT
#65774
CINCINNATI -- Rumors of a visit from Donald Trump to the Duke Energy Convention Center Sunday seem to be just rumors for now.

Trump's travel schedule updated Friday did not include a stop in Cincinnati, but the Republican front-runner will be in Dayton, Ohio, on Saturday.

The Dayton rally is set for 10 a.m. Saturday at the Dayton Airport Expo Center. Neither the Trump campaign nor the convention center have confirmed the visit yet.

http://www.wcpo.com/news/political/donald-trump-will-be-in-dayton-area-saturday-for-campaign-rally

March 11th. just keep talking please, this is hilarious. Cite TMZ next time
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
March 12 2016 15:49 GMT
#65775
On March 13 2016 00:35 Plansix wrote:
He managed to win over the hearts of 8.5% of america with this 24/7 coverage and won the nomination with it! Yay! Meanwhile the rest of the country is all about anything but Trump.

https://twitter.com/YourAnonNews/status/708677917077667841

Man, the twitter spin machine is running at 2000%. Of course its Voxday that is claiming it was a "false flag".


This election season is bizarre
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 12 2016 15:52 GMT
#65776
only bizarre to people who are not aware of the existence of these elements
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18371 Posts
March 12 2016 16:08 GMT
#65777
On March 12 2016 23:50 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2016 23:40 Luolis wrote:
On March 12 2016 23:39 zeo wrote:
On March 12 2016 23:30 oneofthem wrote:
i wonder if they can count zeo's propaganda work as part of gdp.

Keep up the ad hominem's, you are only proving my point. People aren't going to back down to bullies.

Ok. Tell me more about invading of ukraine being completely right from putin :D


Shouldn't walk around looking all invadeable if you don't want to get invaded.

But seriously, I can understand many Trump supporters, but people ignoring him just outright lying is confounding to me. Particularly when his honesty/straightforwardness are some of the most frequently mentioned reasons for supporting him.

Show nested quote +
On March 12 2016 23:46 farvacola wrote:
On March 12 2016 23:39 zeo wrote:
On March 12 2016 23:30 oneofthem wrote:
i wonder if they can count zeo's propaganda work as part of gdp.

Keep up the ad hominem's, you are only proving my point. People aren't going to back down to bullies.

Looks like Trump already cancelled a downtown Cincinnati rally so I wouldn't get ahead of yourself


Well ain't that somthin'

Straightforward I get. But honesty? WTF. Pretty much every time he opens his mouth a falsity rolls out. He is either honest and as dumb as a brick, or a pathological liar. Neither sound like good traits in a president.

AXygnus
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Portugal1008 Posts
March 12 2016 16:17 GMT
#65778
Yesterday might have just handed Trump the nomination on a platter.
"To create, to recreate. To create, to recreate. Down to the last seed, I stand with a dark stare. Still silent. Still frighteningly silent."
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-12 16:26:06
March 12 2016 16:25 GMT
#65779
Hillary Clinton Wins Democratic Caucuses in Northern Mariana Islands

Hillary Clinton won the Northern Mariana Islands' Democratic caucuses, according to the commonwealth's Democratic Party.

Clinton won four delegates in addition to a previously pledged superdelegate. Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders won two delegates.

Four other superdelegates have yet to endorse either of the candidates.

The Northern Mariana Islands holds its Republican caucuses next Tuesday.

:-)

Source
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
March 12 2016 16:31 GMT
#65780
You can't make this up.

A Texas Candidate Pushes the Boundary of the Far Right

MINEOLA, Tex. — On Super Tuesday, Dale Clark voted for a local Republican who claimed on social media that President Obama had worked as a gay prostitute in his youth, that the United States should ban Islam, that the Democratic Party had John F. Kennedy killed and that the United Nations had hatched a plot to depopulate the world.

Mr. Clark, 75, was unaware that the candidate he had supported — Mary Lou Bruner, 68, a former kindergarten teacher running for a seat on the State Board of Education — held such views. But as he sat with his wife eating lunch in this East Texas city, Mr. Clark was ready to give Ms. Bruner the benefit of the doubt.

“I would not discount her on the basis of having those beliefs,” said Mr. Clark, a retired pilot. “It convinces me, though, that she’s quite conservative, and if I were going to err either way, I would want to err toward the side of the conservative.”

Ms. Bruner’s anti-Obama, anti-Islam, anti-evolution and anti-gay Facebook posts have generated national headlines and turned an obscure school board election into a glimpse of the outer limits of Texas politics. In a part of the state dominated by conservative Christians and Tea Party activists, Ms. Bruner’s candidacy has posed a question no one can answer with any certainty — how far to the fringe is too far for Texas Republicans?

Source
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
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