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On March 13 2016 04:39 SoSexy wrote: I cheered when that black guy took a punch to the face.
once only acceptable in boxing now on its way to mainstream: fuck society, burn it all down so we can watch and cheer for violence on screen that does not affect us and only vagely ties into symbolism and narrative of the scope and style of WWE
'fuck society', in addition to 'fuck right of speech, fuck everyone who doesnt share my ideas' was probably what that black guy was thinking when he crashed into a Trump rally
On March 13 2016 04:00 Ghanburighan wrote: Whoever is attacking Trump is handing the nomination to him on a silver platter. So stupid.
The heart of democracy is being able to talk freely - that's why I cheered when that black guy took a punch to the face.
"I am for freedom of speech, which is why I cheered when that guy was punched for expressing an opposite opinion". That's some sound logic you have there.
On March 13 2016 04:00 Ghanburighan wrote: Whoever is attacking Trump is handing the nomination to him on a silver platter. So stupid.
The prevailing "common wisdom" in the US that "if you say racist things then people will come and beat the shit out of you" really does not reflect well on the minorities that tend towards violence when criticized, even if said criticism is unfair and harmful. This is precisely why the most successful part of the Civil Rights movement was the nonviolent protest.
IMO nonviolence was the face of it to the white community, but for a majority of the disfranchised blacks were truly consoled by the black panther movement.
And that makes it harder for a lot of people who could support said movements to really get behind them. Violence does not breed sympathy for the perpetrator regardless of motivation.
On March 13 2016 04:00 Ghanburighan wrote: Whoever is attacking Trump is handing the nomination to him on a silver platter. So stupid.
The heart of democracy is being able to talk freely - that's why I cheered when that black guy took a punch to the face.
I am for freedom of speech, which is why I cheered when that guy was punched for expressing an opposite opinion. My logic is sound.
It is, and every country works like that. Your freedom ends where another one begins. Seriously, was that guy expecting anything else than something like this to get to the headlines?
On March 13 2016 04:00 Ghanburighan wrote: Whoever is attacking Trump is handing the nomination to him on a silver platter. So stupid.
The heart of democracy is being able to talk freely - that's why I cheered when that black guy took a punch to the face.
I am for freedom of speech, which is why I cheered when that guy was punched for expressing an opposite opinion. My logic is sound.
It is, and every country works like that. Your freedom ends where another one begins. Seriously, was that guy expecting anything else than something like this to get to the headlines?
I don't know what he expected and I don't care. I respect his right to express his opinion. You know, that thing you just claimed you were in favor of.
On March 13 2016 04:00 Ghanburighan wrote: Whoever is attacking Trump is handing the nomination to him on a silver platter. So stupid.
The heart of democracy is being able to talk freely - that's why I cheered when that black guy took a punch to the face.
I am for freedom of speech, which is why I cheered when that guy was punched for expressing an opposite opinion. My logic is sound.
It is, and every country works like that. Your freedom ends where another one begins. Seriously, was that guy expecting anything else than something like this to get to the headlines?
No, modern states don't work like that. The state has a monopoly on the legitimate use of physical force, and it is illegal to hit someone who is not attacking you, except in specific contexts. Perhaps you should look it up instead of supporting physical violence.
I mean we're discussing someone who thinks freedom of speech doesn't apply when you're talking to people who disagree with you. What else is there to say.
On March 13 2016 04:00 Ghanburighan wrote: Whoever is attacking Trump is handing the nomination to him on a silver platter. So stupid.
The heart of democracy is being able to talk freely - that's why I cheered when that black guy took a punch to the face.
I am for freedom of speech, which is why I cheered when that guy was punched for expressing an opposite opinion. My logic is sound.
It is, and every country works like that. Your freedom ends where another one begins. Seriously, was that guy expecting anything else than something like this to get to the headlines?
I don't know what he expected and I don't care. I respect his right to express his opinion. You know, that thing you just claimed you were in favor of.
He can express his opinion in all the ways I want! But you do NOT go to another party rally to play the jerk because it undermines the assumptions of democracy - it is not expressing one's opinion, it is a pure, 100% willed provocation.
If I am pro vegan, I can go to conferences, vote for a vegan party, etc. = free speech If I am pro vegan and go outside slaughterhouses to mock, provoke workers, try to sabotage their advertisement, etc. = provocation
On March 13 2016 04:55 Nebuchad wrote: I mean we're discussing someone who thinks freedom of speech doesn't apply when you're talking to people who disagree with you. What else is there to say.
vote camacho 2020!
and back to politics if i may: can anyone point me to an institute doing legit economics on societal transitions to a post (labour) scarcity economy, if there is one?
On March 13 2016 04:00 Ghanburighan wrote: Whoever is attacking Trump is handing the nomination to him on a silver platter. So stupid.
The heart of democracy is being able to talk freely - that's why I cheered when that black guy took a punch to the face.
I am for freedom of speech, which is why I cheered when that guy was punched for expressing an opposite opinion. My logic is sound.
It is, and every country works like that. Your freedom ends where another one begins. Seriously, was that guy expecting anything else than something like this to get to the headlines?
I don't know what he expected and I don't care. I respect his right to express his opinion. You know, that thing you just claimed you were in favor of.
He can express his opinion in all the ways I want! But you do NOT go to another party rally to play the jerk because it undermines the assumptions of democracy - it is not expressing one's opinion, it is a pure, 100% willed provocation.
If I am pro vegan, I can go to conferences, vote for a vegan party, etc. = free speech If I am pro vegan and go outside slaughterhouses to mock, provoke workers, try to sabotage their advertisement, etc. = provocation
It's called a protest, it is a constitutional right in almost all democracies
On March 13 2016 04:00 Ghanburighan wrote: Whoever is attacking Trump is handing the nomination to him on a silver platter. So stupid.
The heart of democracy is being able to talk freely - that's why I cheered when that black guy took a punch to the face.
I am for freedom of speech, which is why I cheered when that guy was punched for expressing an opposite opinion. My logic is sound.
It is, and every country works like that. Your freedom ends where another one begins. Seriously, was that guy expecting anything else than something like this to get to the headlines?
I don't know what he expected and I don't care. I respect his right to express his opinion. You know, that thing you just claimed you were in favor of.
He can express his opinion in all the ways I want! But you do NOT go to another party rally to play the jerk because it undermines the assumptions of democracy - it is not expressing one's opinion, it is a pure, 100% willed provocation.
If I am pro vegan, I can go to conferences, vote for a vegan party, etc. = free speech If I am pro vegan and go outside slaughterhouses to mock, provoke workers, try to sabotage their advertisement, etc. = provocation
well now it all makes sense - you chase underage girls because you have the mental capacity of a minor!
On March 13 2016 04:00 Ghanburighan wrote: Whoever is attacking Trump is handing the nomination to him on a silver platter. So stupid.
The heart of democracy is being able to talk freely - that's why I cheered when that black guy took a punch to the face.
I am for freedom of speech, which is why I cheered when that guy was punched for expressing an opposite opinion. My logic is sound.
It is, and every country works like that. Your freedom ends where another one begins. Seriously, was that guy expecting anything else than something like this to get to the headlines?
I don't know what he expected and I don't care. I respect his right to express his opinion. You know, that thing you just claimed you were in favor of.
He can express his opinion in all the ways I want! But you do NOT go to another party rally to play the jerk because it undermines the assumptions of democracy - it is not expressing one's opinion, it is a pure, 100% willed provocation.
If I am pro vegan, I can go to conferences, vote for a vegan party, etc. = free speech If I am pro vegan and go outside slaughterhouses to mock, provoke workers, try to sabotage their advertisement, etc. = provocation
Civilized people don't respond to provocation by punching others in the face (or chainsawing through treehuggers chained to the trees they're trying to log). It's part of being a mature adult.
On March 13 2016 04:00 Ghanburighan wrote: Whoever is attacking Trump is handing the nomination to him on a silver platter. So stupid.
The heart of democracy is being able to talk freely - that's why I cheered when that black guy took a punch to the face.
I am for freedom of speech, which is why I cheered when that guy was punched for expressing an opposite opinion. My logic is sound.
It is, and every country works like that. Your freedom ends where another one begins. Seriously, was that guy expecting anything else than something like this to get to the headlines?
I don't know what he expected and I don't care. I respect his right to express his opinion. You know, that thing you just claimed you were in favor of.
He can express his opinion in all the ways I want! But you do NOT go to another party rally to play the jerk because it undermines the assumptions of democracy - it is not expressing one's opinion, it is a pure, 100% willed provocation.
If I am pro vegan, I can go to conferences, vote for a vegan party, etc. = free speech If I am pro vegan and go outside slaughterhouses to mock, provoke workers, try to sabotage their advertisement, etc. = provocation
Nice slip -- color me unsurprised that you're defending Trump. Expressing yourself through protest is an act of speech. Even as a provocation, it does not justify the use of physical violence. Your comment remains disgusting.
On March 13 2016 04:00 Ghanburighan wrote: Whoever is attacking Trump is handing the nomination to him on a silver platter. So stupid.
The heart of democracy is being able to talk freely - that's why I cheered when that black guy took a punch to the face.
I am for freedom of speech, which is why I cheered when that guy was punched for expressing an opposite opinion. My logic is sound.
It is, and every country works like that. Your freedom ends where another one begins. Seriously, was that guy expecting anything else than something like this to get to the headlines?
I don't know what he expected and I don't care. I respect his right to express his opinion. You know, that thing you just claimed you were in favor of.
He can express his opinion in all the ways I want! But you do NOT go to another party rally to play the jerk because it undermines the assumptions of democracy - it is not expressing one's opinion, it is a pure, 100% willed provocation.
If I am pro vegan, I can go to conferences, vote for a vegan party, etc. = free speech If I am pro vegan and go outside slaughterhouses to mock, provoke workers, try to sabotage their advertisement, etc. = provocation
It's called a protest, it is a constitutional right in almost all democracies
Protesting a gathering protected by the secret service is a federal crime
The Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011, also known as H.R. 347, is a federal law in the United States allowing the Secret Service extra jurisdiction to make arrests and suppress protests in cases of trespass on restricted locations and intentional disruption of government functions.
H.R. 347 is a revision to section 1752 of title 18 US code.[1] Introduced by representative Thomas Rooney (FL-16), it makes punishable by up to 10 years jail time or fine any person who does "or conspires" enter any "restricted building or grounds" or within certain "proximity" without lawful authority to do so, attempts to disrupt the orderly conduct of Government business.
It defines restricted building or grounds as the "(A) of the White House or its grounds, or the Vice President’s official residence or its grounds; (B) of a building or grounds where the President or other person protected by the Secret Service is or will be temporarily visiting; or (C) of a building or grounds so restricted in conjunction with an event designated as a special event of national significance."
That's a much better angle. I couldn't find one earlier. The guy wasn't even in the frame in the clips I found. No matter what side you're on, I think you have to agree his composure is admirable. Like when that guy threw a shoe at (president) Bush.
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