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ErectedZenith
325 Posts
On March 13 2016 05:49 kwizach wrote: I am serious. How else would you expect anyone else to behave? edit: except perhaps by asking the Secret Service to go easy on the guy. I think you are the minority here. | ||
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kwizach
3658 Posts
Can't help but notice you did not answer the question. Also, since oBlade seems to have decided to desperately ignore my other question because he apparently cannot find an excuse for Trump no matter how hard he tries, perhaps you can answer it: what about Trump's usual calls for the protesters to get beaten up? Is it admirable to usually incite to physical violence? edit: also, no, the overwhelming majority of people on these forums do not support Trump. You're delusional if you think otherwise. | ||
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ErectedZenith
325 Posts
On March 13 2016 06:29 kwizach wrote: Can't help but notice you did not answer the question. Also, since oBlade seems to have decided to desperately ignore my other question because he apparently cannot find an excuse for Trump no matter how hard he tries, perhaps you can answer it: what about Trump's usual calls for the protesters to get beaten up? Is it admirable to usually incite to physical violence? edit: also, no, the overwhelming majority of people on these forums do not support Trump. You're delusional if you think otherwise. Who said about forums? | ||
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oBlade
United States5901 Posts
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kwizach
3658 Posts
On March 13 2016 06:37 oBlade wrote: "Hey, he handled that well" and "he's the best candidate in either party" are different (meaning not the same) propositions, and the inability of people to recognize distinctions like that is proving to be an impediment to fruitful discussions. Except you didn't say "he handled that well", you said that his composure was "admirable". His composure was as ordinary as can be. Funnily enough, though, you're still not replying to my question. What about Trump's usual calls for the protesters to get beaten up? Is it admirable to usually incite to physical violence? Also, the actual "impediment to fruitful discussions" is you (and other posters) refusing to accept any criticism whatsoever of Trump's comments as legitimate, and constantly bending over backwards to defend him no matter the topic. What is "here" supposed to mean? | ||
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oBlade
United States5901 Posts
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zeo
Serbia6336 Posts
On March 13 2016 06:29 kwizach wrote: Can't help but notice you did not answer the question. Also, since oBlade seems to have decided to desperately ignore my other question because he apparently cannot find an excuse for Trump no matter how hard he tries, perhaps you can answer it: what about Trump's usual calls for the protesters to get beaten up? Is it admirable to usually incite to physical violence? edit: also, no, the overwhelming majority of people on these forums do not support Trump. You're delusional if you think otherwise. To be honest Trump supporters should just let these people be arrested by the police in peace. Take pictures of the protesters and point them out to federal agents. It is a federal offense to protest at an event protected by the secret service. I don't know why you are getting so defensive about these people, felons can't vote. Thats -1 vote for Bernie, say 20 people get arrested at each event thats maybe -50 Bernie votes a day. Your girl Hilary must be tap dancing right now. | ||
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kwizach
3658 Posts
On March 13 2016 06:42 oBlade wrote: "Here" as in on the subject of what happened with that protester in Dayton...? I replied to that. You didn't reply to me, though: what about Trump's usual calls for the protesters to get beaten up? Is it admirable to usually incite to physical violence? | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On March 13 2016 06:44 zeo wrote: To be honest Trump supporters should just let these people be arrested by the police in peace. Take pictures of the protesters and point them out to federal agents. It is a federal offense to protest at an event protected by the secret service. I don't know why you are getting so defensive about these people, felons can't vote. Thats -1 vote for Bernie, say 20 people get arrested at each event thats maybe -50 Bernie votes a day. Your girl Hilary must be tap dancing right now. only certain felon's can't vote, and I'm also pretty sure you're misinterpreting that law because pretty much every presidential speech I have seen has protests. Where are the TL lawyers | ||
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ErectedZenith
325 Posts
On March 13 2016 06:44 kwizach wrote: I replied to that. You didn't reply to me, though: what about Trump's usual calls for the protesters to get beaten up? Is it admirable to usually incite to physical violence? For the protesters? It is a dumb idea, you will become people's laughingstock. | ||
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kwizach
3658 Posts
On March 13 2016 06:46 ErectedZenith wrote: For the protesters? It is a dumb idea, you will become people's laughingstock. You seem to have misunderstood my question. It is Trump who has been calling for protesters to get beaten up. | ||
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
On March 13 2016 00:32 GoTuNk! wrote: It's inevitable that Trumps wins the nomination. Liberal media and the whole establishment remain ignorant to the fact that atacking someone 24/7 on the media means he gets 20 times the exposure of all other candidates together. How do you think it looks to non-liberals when a bunch of people you dislike (liberal establishment) spend all their time name calling someone? I think Liberals desperately hope the Donald takes the R nomination. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On March 13 2016 06:49 Yoav wrote: I think Liberals desperately hope the Donald takes the R nomination. not so sure actually. Trump and Cruz are both awful for the R nomination. But then again I don't really see anyone else taking it anymore. Streetfights out in the open after Kasich gets appointed the nomination at the convention despite Trump and Cruz being way ahead of him anyone? | ||
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ErectedZenith
325 Posts
On March 13 2016 06:49 kwizach wrote: You seem to have misunderstood my question. It is Trump who has been calling for protesters to get beaten up. And I'm saying that it a dumb idea for protesters to be violent. | ||
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kwizach
3658 Posts
On March 13 2016 06:52 ErectedZenith wrote: And I'm saying that it a dumb idea for protesters to be violent. Which is a statement that is irrelevant to my question. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22102 Posts
On March 13 2016 06:52 ErectedZenith wrote: And I'm saying that it a dumb idea for protesters to be violent. And no on is surprised you again dodge the question. On March 13 2016 06:52 Toadesstern wrote: not so sure actually. Trump and Cruz are both awful for the R nomination. But then again I don't really see anyone else taking it anymore. Streetfights out in the open after Kasich gets appointed the nomination at the convention despite Trump and Cruz being way ahead of him anyone? Trump is a wildcard. Conventional wisdom says he is utterly unelectable and his nomination is a free D win. But then again conventional wisdom said he was never going to be the Republican nominee. I think still think it will be the Democrats election to lose, by not showing up in numbers to fight the wave of Trump support. Like 30% coming out for to vote for Trump and 70% not wanting him. but only 29% can actually be bothered to vote for Hillary. | ||
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ErectedZenith
325 Posts
On March 13 2016 06:57 Gorsameth wrote: And no on is surprised you again dodge the question. Trump is a wildcard. Conventional wisdom says he is utterly unelectable and his nomination is a free D win. But then again conventional wisdom said he was never going to be the Republican nominee. I think still think it will be the Democrats election to lose, by not showing up in numbers to fight the wave of Trump support. Like 30% coming out for to vote for Trump and 70% not wanting him. but only 29% can actually be bothered to vote for Hillary. Wasn't for me anyways. I was making a statement. | ||
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oBlade
United States5901 Posts
On March 13 2016 06:49 Yoav wrote: I think Liberals desperately hope the Donald takes the R nomination. That's a strong way to put it, but I definitely noticed early on that when Jeb Bush (ostensibly a shoo-in candidate) was having a poor start compared to the Trump spectacle, the MSM never guided him as a viable alternative. Just sort of held his hand as he lost. On March 13 2016 06:52 Toadesstern wrote: not so sure actually. Trump and Cruz are both awful for the R nomination. But then again I don't really see anyone else taking it anymore. Streetfights out in the open after Kasich gets appointed the nomination at the convention despite Trump and Cruz being way ahead of him anyone? Exactly, the claim is that liberals would prefer a Republican nominee who was awful. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23657 Posts
On March 13 2016 06:49 Yoav wrote: I think Liberals desperately hope the Donald takes the R nomination. The same ones who thought he never had a chance to get the nomination. Ted Cruz would be an exponentially easier opponent, predictable and ideologically rigid. Trump could flip a position on a dime if he needs to, and there's nothing he wouldn't say. That's a dangerous opponent. It's obvious that Bernie would crush Trump. Calling Bernie a commie in the face of a Trump alternative isn't going to swing the polls 10+ points and Trump won't even be able to campaign in major cities up north. However Trump painting Hillary as a liar, cheat, and destroying sexual assault victims of her husband could take her small advantage away. Especially since Hillary alienated a bunch of her black support recently. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On March 13 2016 06:59 oBlade wrote: That's a strong way to put it, but I definitely noticed early on that when Jeb Bush (ostensibly a shoo-in candidate) was having a poor start compared to the Trump spectacle, the MSM never guided him as a viable alternative. Just sort of held his hand as he lost. Exactly, the claim is that liberals would prefer a Republican nominee who was awful. well, Trump is a nominee who is awful. He's the most hated man to run for president in a long time. I just happen to think that Cruz somehow even manages to edge out on him, not because of how much people don't like him but actually because of his policies. Republican base postponing their revolution for 4 years, getting some random bush/rubio/kasich first as a safe bet into a Trump next election would probably have been the nightmare for Democrats. I could have seen that working for both elections. | ||
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