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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12461 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-12 12:35:04
March 12 2016 12:27 GMT
#65741
On March 12 2016 15:15 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2016 15:09 GreenHorizons wrote:
On March 12 2016 14:41 LegalLord wrote:
I'd take these Hitler/Nazi accusations more seriously if it weren't the oldest stupid smear in the book.

It's easier to find an important public figure that has NOT been likened to Hitler for some action or other.



I think people get confused with the comparison to Hitler's rise to power and what he did with it. No question Trump's campaign resembles Hitler's rise to power (though there are plenty of differences). What he would do with it is a separate issue imo.

This won't be the last Trump rally to go like this though. He'll have to avoid any major cities north of the Mason-Dixon line if he doesn't want it to happen again.

ROFLMAO @ "thugs who stopped Trump's rally" I guess since it wasn't just some young women he couldn't show his superior strength... Or go out into the crowd punching protesters like he'd like to do.

Hitler banned guns


No he didn't.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/oct/26/ben-carson/fact-checking-ben-carson-nazi-guns/
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iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4416 Posts
March 12 2016 12:54 GMT
#65742
On March 12 2016 18:44 Slaughter wrote:
The people who cry the loudest about the PC police are generally the ones with the most power in society? If anything the only real big "divisions" that have been developing have been between the rich and the poor. The whole divisive thing between the races has been mostly due to increased media coverage on the issue. This shit has been mostly the same for many years now, people just didn't know about it because the media didn't show it as much.

Also you talk about this stuff like you are above it all yet you are calling the other side animals? Yea respect goes both ways pal and its that kind of talk that starts this kind of stuff.

The whole "PC" movement thing is just about respect. In the past people had less respect and threw around a lot of language that was bad and thoughtless so now people are more aware of it and trying to be better. Same thing with feminism. Do people who ascribe to those things go to far sometimes? Yes and its bad but its the same for any group as they all have their more radical and asshole elements. Every "bad" PC/SJW/Feminist you point out you can show and equal number of people who are polar opposites of those 3 who go too far on the opposite side. Stop playing the victim card...you sound like that peasant from monte python HELP HELP I'M BEING OPPRESSED.

And yet a poll last month showed over 6/10 democrat voters think PC has gone too far.You lost this one bro.

http://www.phillyvoice.com/nj-poll-americans-are-too-politically-correct/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4416 Posts
March 12 2016 12:59 GMT
#65743
On March 12 2016 21:27 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2016 15:15 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
On March 12 2016 15:09 GreenHorizons wrote:
On March 12 2016 14:41 LegalLord wrote:
I'd take these Hitler/Nazi accusations more seriously if it weren't the oldest stupid smear in the book.

It's easier to find an important public figure that has NOT been likened to Hitler for some action or other.



I think people get confused with the comparison to Hitler's rise to power and what he did with it. No question Trump's campaign resembles Hitler's rise to power (though there are plenty of differences). What he would do with it is a separate issue imo.

This won't be the last Trump rally to go like this though. He'll have to avoid any major cities north of the Mason-Dixon line if he doesn't want it to happen again.

ROFLMAO @ "thugs who stopped Trump's rally" I guess since it wasn't just some young women he couldn't show his superior strength... Or go out into the crowd punching protesters like he'd like to do.

Hitler banned guns


No he didn't.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/oct/26/ben-carson/fact-checking-ben-carson-nazi-guns/

So Hitler took all guns (and knives, aces, bows etc) off the Jewish people.Then killed 6 million of them after disarming them.Great argument for gun control....

Hearing reports of a BLM thug firing an uzi into the air after Trumps rally was cancelled.Plus record number of shootings in Chicago the past year.Good to see those tough gun laws are working in the city.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-12 13:14:13
March 12 2016 13:11 GMT
#65744
On March 12 2016 21:54 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2016 18:44 Slaughter wrote:
The people who cry the loudest about the PC police are generally the ones with the most power in society? If anything the only real big "divisions" that have been developing have been between the rich and the poor. The whole divisive thing between the races has been mostly due to increased media coverage on the issue. This shit has been mostly the same for many years now, people just didn't know about it because the media didn't show it as much.

Also you talk about this stuff like you are above it all yet you are calling the other side animals? Yea respect goes both ways pal and its that kind of talk that starts this kind of stuff.

The whole "PC" movement thing is just about respect. In the past people had less respect and threw around a lot of language that was bad and thoughtless so now people are more aware of it and trying to be better. Same thing with feminism. Do people who ascribe to those things go to far sometimes? Yes and its bad but its the same for any group as they all have their more radical and asshole elements. Every "bad" PC/SJW/Feminist you point out you can show and equal number of people who are polar opposites of those 3 who go too far on the opposite side. Stop playing the victim card...you sound like that peasant from monte python HELP HELP I'M BEING OPPRESSED.

And yet a poll last month showed over 6/10 democrat voters think PC has gone too far.You lost this one bro.

http://www.phillyvoice.com/nj-poll-americans-are-too-politically-correct/

Pretty sure the same results would have happened if the 60s during the civil right movement. Or if the question was "has Sanders gone to far left?" Loaded questions in polls are pretty dumb.

Edit: love the stories of anti trump protesters firing anti tank weapons into the air and threating the supporters with death rays. Very believable.
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trulojucreathrma.com
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
United States327 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-12 13:27:07
March 12 2016 13:26 GMT
#65745
Trump was finally stumped.


Trump has no plan. He can't help himself. He can't act like an unifier even if he wanted to. Trump is going to be Trump, insult everyone, and bite the hand that feeds him.

Violence at his events, if he is to blame or not doesn't matter, isn't going to convince the majority of voters that now feel like they would never vote for him.

Even right now, only a minority of republicans vote for him.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 12 2016 13:29 GMT
#65746
On March 12 2016 21:54 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2016 18:44 Slaughter wrote:
The people who cry the loudest about the PC police are generally the ones with the most power in society? If anything the only real big "divisions" that have been developing have been between the rich and the poor. The whole divisive thing between the races has been mostly due to increased media coverage on the issue. This shit has been mostly the same for many years now, people just didn't know about it because the media didn't show it as much.

Also you talk about this stuff like you are above it all yet you are calling the other side animals? Yea respect goes both ways pal and its that kind of talk that starts this kind of stuff.

The whole "PC" movement thing is just about respect. In the past people had less respect and threw around a lot of language that was bad and thoughtless so now people are more aware of it and trying to be better. Same thing with feminism. Do people who ascribe to those things go to far sometimes? Yes and its bad but its the same for any group as they all have their more radical and asshole elements. Every "bad" PC/SJW/Feminist you point out you can show and equal number of people who are polar opposites of those 3 who go too far on the opposite side. Stop playing the victim card...you sound like that peasant from monte python HELP HELP I'M BEING OPPRESSED.

And yet a poll last month showed over 6/10 democrat voters think PC has gone too far.You lost this one bro.

http://www.phillyvoice.com/nj-poll-americans-are-too-politically-correct/

150 years ago, claiming that Black men were not inferior to White men was not politically correct. Claiming that women were responsible enough to have some independance towards their husbands was not politically correct. 600 years ago, claiming that the earth revolved around the sun was not politically correct. etc
What do you have to say about this?

Besides, what is this poll supposed to show? People's opinion on random stuff is often worthless.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 12 2016 13:30 GMT
#65747
would be interested to see some legit plans on rebuilding some of these communities, not just black ones.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 12 2016 13:32 GMT
#65748
And man that cancels in the face of a peaceful protests. Thing only got messy when the Trump supporters left after he canceled. Trump, truely presidential.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23956 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-12 13:41:36
March 12 2016 13:32 GMT
#65749
I just like how the cops threw Trump under the bus and said they didn't even speak to him let alone suggest he call off the rally.

Not that trump being caught in a lie will dissuade any of his support. Might inadvertently put Trump supporters and BLM supporters on the same side of not being fans of Chicago PD though?

Damn Hillary is having a rough couple days, first the AIDS comment, now she's got black folks upset with her response to Trump's rally. Lucky for her, Florida is full of elderly people.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6342 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-12 14:12:24
March 12 2016 14:05 GMT
#65750
On March 12 2016 22:32 Plansix wrote:
And man that cancels in the face of a peaceful protests. Thing only got messy when the Trump supporters left after he canceled. Trump, truely presidential.

Low quality bait.
On March 12 2016 22:26 trulojucreathrma.com wrote:
Trump was finally stumped.

Says increasingly nervous man for the 26th time
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 12 2016 14:14 GMT
#65751
On March 12 2016 22:32 GreenHorizons wrote:
I just like how the cops threw Trump under the bus and said they didn't even speak to him let alone suggest he call off the rally.

Not that trump being caught in a lie will dissuade any of his support. Might inadvertently put Trump supporters and BLM supporters on the same side of not being fans of Chicago PD though?

Damn Hillary is having a rough couple days, first the AIDS comment, now she's got black folks upset with her response to Trump's rally. Lucky for her, Florida is full of elderly people.

what did sanders say?
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
March 12 2016 14:19 GMT
#65752
Sounds like Serbian Fascist lord zeo wants to bet on a Trump win
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6342 Posts
March 12 2016 14:21 GMT
#65753
On March 12 2016 23:19 farvacola wrote:
Sounds like Serbian Fascist lord zeo wants to bet on a Trump win

What can I say, I hate fascists wherever I see them
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
March 12 2016 14:24 GMT
#65754
In other news, suck it, John Husted.

Seventeen-year-olds who will turn 18 before the fall presidential election can vote in Ohio's presidential primary, a judge ruled Friday in a potential boost for Democrat Bernie Sanders as he fights to open elections across the country to the young people who are among his key supporters.

The judge's decision reversed instructions from the swing state's election chief just days before Tuesday's primary and amid early voting. Republican Secretary of State Jon Husted initially vowed to appeal the ruling, then opted not to fight it after a state appeals court set a hearing for Monday.

Husted said the timing would give his office "no effective way to responsibly make the changes necessary to implement an orderly election." He directed the state's 88 county elections boards Friday night to comply with the order.

"This last minute legislating from the bench on election law has to stop," he said.

Like other Ohioans, the 17-year-olds must already be registered to vote to cast a primary ballot. Nearly 7.6 million Ohioans are registered to vote, including more than 16,000 17-year-olds, according to Husted's office.


17-Year-Olds Can Vote in Ohio's Presidential Primary Tuesday
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 12 2016 14:30 GMT
#65755
i wonder if they can count zeo's propaganda work as part of gdp.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6342 Posts
March 12 2016 14:39 GMT
#65756
On March 12 2016 23:30 oneofthem wrote:
i wonder if they can count zeo's propaganda work as part of gdp.

Keep up the ad hominem's, you are only proving my point. People aren't going to back down to bullies.
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7170 Posts
March 12 2016 14:40 GMT
#65757
On March 12 2016 23:39 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2016 23:30 oneofthem wrote:
i wonder if they can count zeo's propaganda work as part of gdp.

Keep up the ad hominem's, you are only proving my point. People aren't going to back down to bullies.

Ok. Tell me more about invading of ukraine being completely right from putin :D
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
March 12 2016 14:46 GMT
#65758
On March 12 2016 23:39 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2016 23:30 oneofthem wrote:
i wonder if they can count zeo's propaganda work as part of gdp.

Keep up the ad hominem's, you are only proving my point. People aren't going to back down to bullies.

Looks like Trump already cancelled a downtown Cincinnati rally so I wouldn't get ahead of yourself
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23956 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-12 14:51:10
March 12 2016 14:50 GMT
#65759
On March 12 2016 23:40 Luolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2016 23:39 zeo wrote:
On March 12 2016 23:30 oneofthem wrote:
i wonder if they can count zeo's propaganda work as part of gdp.

Keep up the ad hominem's, you are only proving my point. People aren't going to back down to bullies.

Ok. Tell me more about invading of ukraine being completely right from putin :D


Shouldn't walk around looking all invadeable if you don't want to get invaded.

But seriously, I can understand many Trump supporters, but people ignoring him just outright lying is confounding to me. Particularly when his honesty/straightforwardness are some of the most frequently mentioned reasons for supporting him.

On March 12 2016 23:46 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2016 23:39 zeo wrote:
On March 12 2016 23:30 oneofthem wrote:
i wonder if they can count zeo's propaganda work as part of gdp.

Keep up the ad hominem's, you are only proving my point. People aren't going to back down to bullies.

Looks like Trump already cancelled a downtown Cincinnati rally so I wouldn't get ahead of yourself


Well ain't that somthin'
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 12 2016 14:55 GMT
#65760
These violent protestors only seem to play in Trumps's hand.
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