EPTThat staged and pre-planned entertainment is not the same as legitimate competitions where a man goes all out against a woman?
Fake wrestling isn't the same as real wrestling (or boxing, other sports, etc.).
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45080 Posts
That staged and pre-planned entertainment is not the same as legitimate competitions where a man goes all out against a woman? Fake wrestling isn't the same as real wrestling (or boxing, other sports, etc.). | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Despite a debate in which Fox moderators repeatedly attacked him and three days of hostile press coverage which came after it, Donald Trump remains in a commanding lead in the race for the Republican nomination, according to a poll released Sunday evening by NBC News. The results confound weekend press coverage suggesting Trump's campaign was foundering. The online poll was conducted by the Analytics Unit of NBC News and the University of Pennsylvania's Program on Opinion Research and Election Studies over a 24 hour period from Friday evening into Saturday, thus coming entirely after the debate on Thursday evening. According to poll, Trump has the support of 23% of Republican voters, followed by Ted Cruz with 13%, Ben Carson with 11%, Marco Rubio and Carly Fiorina tied at 8% and Jeb Bush and Scott Walker at 7%. The poll showed Trump essentially unchanged from a poll taken one week ago in which he garnered 22% support. Numerous commentators speculated over the weekend that Trump's public spat with Fox News host Megyn Kelly might finally spell the end of his surge in the polls. Top Republicans openly cheered his apparent downfall. But NBC's weekend poll suggests that assumption was misplaced. Source | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18131 Posts
On August 11 2015 02:51 Plansix wrote: Yeah, enough of the fanboyism. Especially linking to Youtube E-celebrities that happen to be global warming skeptics, free-market worshiping, nut-ball libertarians. If you are going to cite sources, please make them people with an iota of credibility. Even GH didn't go that far. At least GH was positive about his posting, rather than posting youtube "take down videos' by internet celebrities. I started watching it. He spends an awful lot of time constructing his strawman of socialism just so he can knock it down. I gave up after he had repeated for the umpteenth time that the US now annually spends the entire GDP of Europe in 1870 on "socialist projects", and started yelling that the national debt went up and therefore poverty got worse. WUT? | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45080 Posts
It was just way too obvious that Fox was trying to attack him. With all the stupid shit that Trump has been saying, Fox and the rest of the conservative party somehow succeeded in making Trump look like the victim, instead of just holding him accountable to his rhetoric. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Hillary Clinton on Monday rolled out a sweeping higher education plan — a $350 billion proposal that would help millions pay for college and reduce interest rates for people with student loans. The plan, which would change the way a large swath of Americans pay for college, borrows ideas from the left and the right and even expands a program enacted by her husband. It includes ideas already being discussed in Congress and for which groundwork has been laid by the Obama administration. The proposal, dubbed the New College Compact, is unlikely to win over many in the GOP because the $350 billion over 10 years would come from cutting tax deductions for the wealthiest Americans. Clinton will discuss the plan, a litmus test of sorts for progressives, at campaign stops Monday and Tuesday in New Hampshire. And at a yet-to-be-announced stop later in the week, Clinton will offer additional proposals intended to help nontraditional students — such as those who are already parents — complete their degrees, the campaign said. And the plan’s rollout is timed to coincide with college students heading back to school, potentially luring a voting bloc critical for President Barack Obama that Clinton needs to court as well. A senior campaign official called the combination of ideas and the intense emphasis on the issue of paying for college a “bold transformation of how we would do higher education financing in our country.” The compact’s base-line goals are to allow students to attend a four-year public college without taking out loans for tuitionor attend a community college tuition-free, push states to spend more on higher education, encourage institutions to cut costs while boosting graduation rates, and reward innovation. Source | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 11 2015 03:06 Acrofales wrote: I started watching it. He spends an awful lot of time constructing his strawman of socialism just so he can knock it down. I gave up after he had repeated for the umpteenth time that the US now annually spends the entire GDP of Europe in 1870 on "socialist projects", and started yelling that the national debt went up and therefore poverty got worse. WUT? I am sure the man is very popular with internet libertarians and anti-government folks. He has about 200K youtube subscribers, so he needs to cash on Bernie as soon as possible. Not posting the take down video is like leaving money on the table. On August 11 2015 03:08 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: It was just way too obvious that Fox was trying to attack him. With all the stupid shit that Trump has been saying, Fox and the rest of the conservative party somehow succeeded in making Trump look like the victim, instead of just holding him accountable to his rhetoric. The fact that they are so focused on him seems to be only adding fuel. The better plan would be to pump up your other candidates and not give him so much air time. But this is the GOP and they don't really understand how to be positive. | ||
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whatisthisasheep
624 Posts
On August 11 2015 02:51 Plansix wrote: Yeah, enough of the fanboyism. Especially linking to Youtube E-celebrities that happen to be global warming skeptics, free-market worshiping, nut-ball libertarians. If you are going to cite sources, please make them people with an iota of credibility. Even GH didn't go that far. At least GH was positive about his posting, rather than posting youtube "take down videos' by internet celebrities. Isn't that the point of Politics? The political process revolves around ad hominem attacks against their opponents in order to make themselves look better in order to sway voters. GH is just playing the game by the rules established by political parties, he shouldn't be punished for it. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45080 Posts
On August 11 2015 03:11 Plansix wrote: The fact that they are so focused on him seems to be only adding fuel. The better plan would be to pump up your other candidates and not give him so much air time. But this is the GOP and they don't really understand how to be positive. I definitely agree about focusing time and energy and positivity on the other candidates, rather than bashing him all the time and giving him any sort of publicity. I was going to say that it might not strictly be a GOP thing per se, but then again a lot of news networks have been "dealing" with Bernie Sanders by trying to ignore him and focus on Hillary, so I guess it might actually be a different mindset. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45080 Posts
On August 11 2015 03:20 whatisthisasheep wrote: Isn't that the point of Politics? The political process revolves around ad hominem attacks against their opponents in order to make themselves look better in order to sway voters. GH is just playing the game by the rules established by political parties, he shouldn't be punished for it. Yeah but our thread's standards are held up to a higher level than just allowing ad hominems and other fallacies/ attacks, since we have actual, reasonable moderation. We try not to play those games. (Although that being said, I haven't been paying too much attention to exactly what GH has been saying that would count as him providing personal attacks rather than statistics and excitement; as far as I was aware, he was being a reasonable- albeit outspoken- supporter of Sanders.) | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 11 2015 03:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I definitely agree about focusing time and energy and positivity on the other candidates, rather than bashing him all the time and giving him any sort of publicity. I was going to say that it might not strictly be a GOP thing per se, but then again a lot of news networks have been "dealing" with Bernie Sanders by trying to ignore him and focus on Hillary, so I guess it might actually be a different mindset. It might be one of the problems with having this much money in the system and almost zero networks people trust any more. People know the coverage isn’t legitimate, that its bought and paid. So because of that, a large chunk of them simply ignore it. I always said the problem isn't that money isn't free speech and it turns up the volume so loud that no one can hear the candidates. Its only makes sense people would start ignoring it. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
FARMINGTON, N.M. — Officials from the Environmental Protection Agency said Sunday that the Gold King Mine discharged an estimated 3 million gallons of contaminated water, three times the amount previously believed. The mine continues to discharge 500 gallons per minute, EPA Region 8 administrator Shaun McGrath said in a teleconference call Sunday afternoon, but the polluted water is being contained and treated in two ponds by the site of the spill near Silverton, Colo. According to preliminary testing data the EPA released Sunday, arsenic levels in the Durango area of the Animas River were, at their peak, 300 times the normal level, and lead was 3,500 times the normal level. Officials said those levels have dropped significantly since the plume moved through the area. Both metals pose a significant danger to humans at high levels of concentration. "Yes, those numbers are high and they seem scary," said Deborah McKean, chief of the Region 8 Toxicology and Human Health and Risk Assessment. "But it's not just a matter of toxicity of the chemicals, it's a matter of exposure." She said the period of time those concentrations remain in one area is short. Earlier Sunday the city of Durango, Colo., and La Plata County, Colo., declared a state of emergency. The Navajo Nation Commission on Emergency Management also issued a state of emergency declaration in response to the spill. EPA officials said in the teleconference Sunday afternoon that water quality experts have been deployed to Shiprock and are encouraging people there to take advantage of water quality sampling. EPA officials said they are also working to provide necessary materials to people in Farmington and Aztec for private well sampling. Source | ||
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
If I'm going to see so many pro-Trump posts from sheep, I'd like to continue seeing those pro-Sander posts from GH. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23488 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On August 11 2015 03:34 GreenHorizons wrote: Cornell West, and dozens of others are getting arrested in front of the St Louis US Courthouse. Context? | ||
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heliusx
United States2306 Posts
They planned to do some form of civil disobedience today in Ferguson so... yeah. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Protest and some of them crossed police barriers. On August 11 2015 03:41 heliusx wrote: They planned to do some form of civil disobedience today in Ferguson so... yeah. From reports they crossed a police barrier without using violence and were arrested for it. That's that way civil disobedience is supposed to work. No tea or private property was destroyed by this action. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14048 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Sermokala
United States14048 Posts
On August 11 2015 02:57 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: That staged and pre-planned entertainment is not the same as legitimate competitions where a man goes all out against a woman? Fake wrestling isn't the same as real wrestling (or boxing, other sports, etc.). Fake wrestling is a really big deal in mexico and the training and effort required to do everything they do has to be considered nearly on the same level as legitimate competitions. Mexicans also tend to be a lot more conservative about things so I was making the point that even that culture it wouldn't be a problem to see mixed genders fighting eachother. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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