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GreenHorizons
United States24505 Posts
On August 11 2015 04:02 cLutZ wrote: NVM, wikipedia provided plenty of information on Mr. West. Depends on what you mean by famous, but he's long been an important figure in black communities. http://www.cornelwest.com/bio.html | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46692 Posts
On August 11 2015 04:08 Sermokala wrote: Fake wrestling is a really big deal in mexico and the training and effort required to do everything they do has to be considered nearly on the same level as legitimate competitions. Mexicans also tend to be a lot more conservative about things so I was making the point that even that culture it wouldn't be a problem to see mixed genders fighting eachother. I agree with you that we should eventually get over the mixed-sex fighting (although the USA is very immature and prude and conservative regarding anything related to sex, whether it's gender roles, sex education, even "hitting a girl", etc.). And I understand and respect the physical ability and gymnastics required to be a fake wrestler, so let me try to reword it like this: In fake wrestling, it's already understood that everyone is working together, whereas in an actual competition, it's less predictable, less rehearsed, and the fighters are working against each other. I think of fake wrestling more of like a synchronized dance or capoeira because it's choreographed (although still staged and acted to "look real/ fierce/ angry/ etc."), and while injuries can still occur in fake wrestling, it's still not the same thing (risk-wise) as boxers legitimately going at it, bludgeoning each other for real. So I don't think fake wrestling is going to be viewed as an adequate analogy in most cases. But again, as Plansix said, I think the emphasis should be more on size and weight, rather than sex anyway. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
On August 11 2015 07:32 Mohdoo wrote: I was a Bernie skeptic, but after his giant crowd here in Portland, he made a believer out of me. I really think he can dethrone Clinton. It takes every single one of us to do so! | ||
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whatisthisasheep
624 Posts
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/10/teflon-don-trump-at-32-percent-in-new-post-debate-poll/ Republican frontrunner billionaire Donald Trump has jumped seven points—a remarkable hike in the polls—after the GOP debate in Cleveland, Ohio, last week and a subsequent spat with Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly. The Morning Consult poll of 746 self-identified Republicans and GOP-leaning independents has Trump with a commanding lead over the entire rest of the field at 32 percent. That means he leads the next three candidates—former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, Dr. Ben Carson and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker or Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) 80% —combined. Bush, who came in second, got only 11 percent. Carson came in third with 9 percent. Walker and Rubio tied with 6 percent each. Trump’s 32 percent means he leads Bush, Carson and Walker—or Bush, Carson and Rubio, depending on which candidate tied for fourth place one considers actually in fourth—combined. His 32 percent is tied with Bush, Carson, Rubio and Walker combined. Trump’s 32 percent is also up seven points over last week’s Morning Consult poll, which had him at 25 percent. The poll was conducted Aug. 7 through Aug. 9—Friday through Sunday—which means most of the polling was done not just after Trump’s debate performance in which he battled Fox News anchors seemingly determined to take him out but also after Friday evening comments about Kelly. “You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever,” Trump said of Kelly during a Friday interview with CNN’s Don Lemon. Many of Trump’s competitors in the 2016 field—and Red State’s Erick Erickson, a Fox News Contributor who disinvited Trump from his weekend conference with various candidates and activists over it—took that to mean Trump was insinuating that Kelly was menstruating, but Trump later noted that he was talking about her nose. “Trump’s support shows no evidence of slipping after he told a CNN anchor on Friday night that Kelly, one of three moderators overseeing the Fox News debate, had ‘blood coming out of her eyes. Blood coming out of her wherever,’” Morning Consult’s Reid Wilson wrote about the poll. What’s more, Trump’s favorability ratings in this new poll skyrocketed. “The share of Republican primary voters who say they view Trump favorably increased since the last tracking poll, to 62 percent from 57 percent,” Wilson wrote. “But the number of registered voters who say they see Trump unfavorably remains high — 52 percent of all voters say they see him in a negative light. That makes Trump both the most popular candidate within the Republican field and the least popular candidate Republicans could nominate for next year’s general election.” | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46692 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States24505 Posts
On August 11 2015 07:32 Mohdoo wrote: I was a Bernie skeptic, but after his giant crowd here in Portland, he made a believer out of me. I really think he can dethrone Clinton. Yeah, if rallies were votes this would already be over. | ||
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Introvert
United States5086 Posts
On August 11 2015 08:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I wonder whether conservatives would rather have Hillary or Bernie as our president, if they had to choose. Maybe xDaunt or other conservative TLers could weigh in? I'm more concerned with who I want as the GOP nominee, and just taking on whoever the Democrat choice is. It's not like it matters to me in the end (since I won't vote for either), so I don't really think about it. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States24505 Posts
On August 11 2015 08:50 Introvert wrote: I'm more concerned with who I want as the GOP nominee, and just taking on whoever the Democrat choice is. It's not like it matters to me in the end (since I won't vote for either), so I don't really think about it. Who do you want as the nominee? | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9016 Posts
On August 11 2015 08:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I wonder whether conservatives would rather have Hillary or Bernie as our president, if they had to choose. Maybe xDaunt or other conservative TLers could weigh in? if I had to choose I would go with Hillary. Bernie is just too far left for me. I agree with alot of the problems he talks about. But I have a really hard time getting behind many of his solutions. Economically his solutions just don't make sense to me, and involve way too much expansion of government. Hillary would be pretty bad as well, but she definitely feels less of a socialist than Bernie. I feel like Bernie would constantly be having major clashes in congress with Republicans (like that doesn't happen enough as it is under the current administration lol) Hillary would be better at playing both sides, or finding comprise when necessary whereas Bernie would seem more stubborn. | ||
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
On August 11 2015 08:32 GreenHorizons wrote: Yeah, if rallies were votes this would already be over. https://twitter.com/NH4Bernie/status/630841599249920000 To be fair....the population of Seattle alone is like 50% of the total population of NH. Not to mention that Washington is also typically a more Democrat leaning state than NH. | ||
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killa_robot
Canada1884 Posts
On August 11 2015 04:09 Plansix wrote: The police know a set number of them want to get arrested for publicity and to raise awareness for their cause. If anything, it’s the duty of the police to create a safe way for that to happen for them and the protesters. It is straight up responsible policing and this is as good a ways as any. It's the duty of the police to allow morons to waste the public's time and resources by getting arrested on purpose. Awesome. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14220 Posts
On August 11 2015 10:06 killa_robot wrote: It's the duty of the police to allow morons to waste the public's time and resources by getting arrested on purpose. Awesome. Its going to happen either way and this way the publics time and resouces are wasted the least. At least take the time to understand the situation before you shit all over it. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22703 Posts
On August 11 2015 10:06 killa_robot wrote: It's the duty of the police to allow morons to waste the public's time and resources by getting arrested on purpose. Awesome. Its the duty of the police to keep people safe. If people are actively trying to get arrested you make it as safe and least disrupting as possible | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 11 2015 10:06 killa_robot wrote: It's the duty of the police to allow morons to waste the public's time and resources by getting arrested on purpose. Awesome. Let me tell you a story about this tea that people threw into the ocean. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46692 Posts
On August 11 2015 09:35 LuckyFool wrote: if I had to choose I would go with Hillary. Bernie is just too far left for me. I agree with alot of the problems he talks about. But I have a really hard time getting behind many of his solutions. Economically his solutions just don't make sense to me, and involve way too much expansion of government. Hillary would be pretty bad as well, but she definitely feels less of a socialist than Bernie. I feel like Bernie would constantly be having major clashes in congress with Republicans (like that doesn't happen enough as it is under the current administration lol) Hillary would be better at playing both sides, or finding comprise when necessary whereas Bernie would seem more stubborn. This is pretty much exactly what I figured. Thanks!  | ||
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IgnE
United States7684 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On August 11 2015 10:42 Plansix wrote: Let me tell you a story about this tea that people threw into the ocean. Go on... Really, please do, I want to see how these things are connected. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
Clinton: -Grants to public colleges who promise to offer no loan tuition -Will include free community college plan by Obama -350 billion over 10 years -Additional tax revenue by limiting deductions on high income filers -10% of income towards student loan repayments, max Sanders: -Free education at 4 year public colleges -300 billion/ year -Institute a robin hood tax on stock transactions Correct me if I'm missing something. My opinion: + Show Spoiler + This is very much an example of why I would vote for Hillary over Bernie. Bernie has a super lofty goal-- free education, period. Derivatives do really need some sort of regulation or restriction, and I think a tax that would effectively kill margin trading by raising tax expenses would be very effective. Two birds one stone. However, the means are impossible. There is literally no way that Wall Street would allow a tax to be placed on one of their most lucrative businesses. 300 billion annually is a huge amount to be added to the budget. Hillary's plan is pretty good. I'm perfectly happy about it. It lowers the price tag on college to a very reasonable level-- not the "I can cover tuition by working over the summer" level, but something that won't be a crushing burden on students. The amount, 350 bill/10 years is less than a tenth over the period (Bernie's is basically uncapped). The removal of deductions is something that can be stomached by more politicians as well. Now, what would really make me happy is if a candidate came out with a plan where he/she retroactively capped college expense or redid the aid formula and made my school give back some of my tuition. | ||
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