EPTSide note: why only random players?
Blizzard asking Diamond level players to contribute to bal…
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Shin_Gouki
United States313 Posts
Side note: why only random players? | ||
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pallad
Poland1958 Posts
On August 03 2012 06:23 Megaliskuu wrote: Its sad cuz diamond kids are the most tryhard, and possibly the most vocal about their silly ideas  .And you are ? master in NA ? its diamond EU.. TL community is geting really bad.. | ||
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Verror
261 Posts
I may only be diamond, but I blame my lack of playing, terrible micro and low apm, not my game understanding... I think having seen every game gsl has ever produced, every mlg game ever produced, and also having watched 90% of the other major tourneys helped my understanding more than a bit >.> It's like saying some1 can't coach basketball because he can't jump 5 feet in the air and run 100m in under 12 seconds... | ||
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Schneeflocke
Canada89 Posts
It seems like everyone is thinking about this backwards. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On August 03 2012 06:36 sevia wrote: Understanding of the game doesn't necessarily coincide with mechanical skill. Of course, a person who deeply understands all three races would probably make masters with random just off of strategy alone, but they could just be the kind of person that prefers to spectate. The important thing is that they hire the right person for the job regardless. Getting mad at Blizzard for casting a wide net is really, really stupid. The amount of mechanical skill to hit Masters his so ridiculously low though. | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
On August 03 2012 06:36 sevia wrote: Understanding of the game doesn't necessarily coincide with mechanical skill. Of course, a person who deeply understands all three races would probably make masters with random just off of strategy alone, but they could just be the kind of person that prefers to spectate. The important thing is that they hire the right person for the job regardless. Getting mad at Blizzard for casting a wide net is really, really stupid. with deep understanding of the game and incredibly poor mechanics, its simply impossible to not be in master in Sc2. Everyone in lower leagues feels he knows more about the game than the league represents, but almost everyone of them is just wrong. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
Pluses Prior experience balancing video games Able to use the StarCraft II Editor to create multiplayer maps Able to modify data in the Editor to tweak or create units These three pluses alone should weed out a ton of people. But they're only pluses. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12053 Posts
Since there's no "random" pro gamers, they wouldn't be allowed to participate purely for the reason of bias I presume. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20343 Posts
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Shiori
3815 Posts
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Glon
United States569 Posts
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WickedBit
United States343 Posts
On August 03 2012 06:35 joon wrote: you also have to realize that pro players want a balanced game. if the game isn't balanced or is completely broken for their race, sure they'll win alot, but then tournaments will realize the game is incompetent and stop endorsing it. the game has to be balanced for it to succeed, which is what pro players want. I am not saying they will do something intentionally. Yes all pro players want a balanced game but just being a pro player means playing that race for a huge fraction of the time. This will just skew their thinking in their view of balance. The best thing a pro player can do is tell the balance team what their biggest issue they are facing with their race is. They can't make similarly good decisions for the other two races. One solution would be to take input from 3 pro players from different races but I think a random player with a good understanding of the game and enough interest to follow the scene and learn more would make a better candidate. | ||
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TheFrankOne
United States667 Posts
On August 03 2012 06:37 Shin_Gouki wrote: Starting with diamond is an ok idea. Master league is too small (what is it about 4.7% of AM?) so I can easily see why they'd recruit diamond as well. Side note: why only random players? The same reason they don't take pro whining seriously: to avoid bias, they've said in interviews (I think it was David Kim HoTS liquid interview) that they think pros are some of the most biased players, vested interests and all that. | ||
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MrShankly
United Kingdom371 Posts
On August 03 2012 06:30 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: There is no 100% random player in Master/GM, no ? There could be with ease if somebody wanted to play random though, It just isnt picked as much as far as I know. And getting Masters with random is probably pretty easy. | ||
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Kamwah
United Kingdom724 Posts
On August 03 2012 06:19 steff wrote: If you're a random diamond you're good enough to balance SC2 officially. http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/careers/posting.html?id=120005N This is old and that job has been up there for ages. | ||
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phodacbiet
United States1740 Posts
On August 03 2012 06:37 pallad wrote: And you are ? master in NA ? its diamond EU.. TL community is geting really bad.. Ehh EU is pretty much the same skill level as NA give or take a few at the top (top top GM not the middle). I am master on NA and went something like 42-5 before getting to master on my new EU account. | ||
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IronManSC
United States2119 Posts
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killy666
France204 Posts
And think of it, would you ask Flash to balance BW? Some people are so good that they just cover the imbalances with their skill^^. edit: because i suck at englishing. | ||
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Talack
Canada2742 Posts
I hate to break it to you, but the people that work at blizzard don't have time to play video games 12+ hours a day to learn every single part of a game. They want someone who is good enough to get to a certain level with limited time and can bring forth their ideas in a constructive manner. They draw on feedback from people who win GSLs and other high levle tournaments in addition to their own personal encounters with the game. | ||
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Flamingo777
United States1190 Posts
On August 03 2012 06:30 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: There is no 100% random player in Master/GM, no ? There used to be a few, there should still be some. | ||
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