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On August 03 2012 08:03 superstartran wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 07:41 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Lol? Some commentators, who have great knowledge about the recent trends in strategy (and understand why they are doing that and such), are not in diamond, let alone play random.
The diamond requirement may seem like a joke, but it's just a low limit. There should be many with exceptions. What if someone is really intelligent but is handicapped or such?
Anyways...
DAMN I WOULD LOVE TO WORK FOR SC2 SHIT FUCK LOL
too bad it's temporary This is such a massive joke. The only people who understand or know about recent trends are people like Artosis and Day9, both who would utterly clown 95% of the people on this board if they were to play SC2 full time. Both are quite capable players in their own right, just not as good as say a tier 1 pro from Korea. There are other commentators who do some research, but their level of understanding will never be on the same level as Artosis or Day9. If you look at sports, the vast majority of coaches are former players that played at a very high level. Why? Because the experience as a professional player is necessary in order to be a coach. Being on a balance team obviously would require a high level of skill; you're not working with game design. You're working on balance. Massive difference.
But have many (if at all) commentators or progamers worked on games before? No... the diamond requirement is only one of the requirements, and it is a minimum. Being good at the game doesn't mean you're necessarily a good candidate for the job, and vice versa.
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Oh man this is depressing
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Well, it's better than nothing right?
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Can the title be changed? It's misleading and seems many people are not reading the OP enough to see why the title isn't exactly true.
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On August 03 2012 10:13 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Can the title be changed? It's misleading and seems many people are not reading the OP enough to see why the title isn't exactly true.
Agreed, this title is misleading.
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On August 03 2012 09:39 superstartran wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 09:32 nkr wrote:On August 03 2012 08:41 superstartran wrote:On August 03 2012 08:36 nkr wrote:On August 03 2012 08:12 superstartran wrote:On August 03 2012 08:08 nkr wrote:On August 03 2012 08:03 superstartran wrote:On August 03 2012 07:41 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Lol? Some commentators, who have great knowledge about the recent trends in strategy (and understand why they are doing that and such), are not in diamond, let alone play random.
The diamond requirement may seem like a joke, but it's just a low limit. There should be many with exceptions. What if someone is really intelligent but is handicapped or such?
Anyways...
DAMN I WOULD LOVE TO WORK FOR SC2 SHIT FUCK LOL
too bad it's temporary This is such a massive joke. The only people who understand or know about recent trends are people like Artosis and Day9, both who would utterly clown 95% of the people on this board if they were to play SC2 full time. Both are quite capable players in their own right, just not as good as say a tier 1 pro from Korea. There are other commentators who do some research, but their level of understanding will never be on the same level as Artosis or Day9. If you look at sports, the vast majority of coaches are former players that played at a very high level. Why? Because the experience as a professional player is necessary in order to be a coach. Being on a balance team obviously would require a high level of skill; you're not working with game design. You're working on balance. Massive difference. I don't know about the US and A, but in europe, in many sports, the coaches were often average at best at their sport. The very best ones in football (Mourinho, Ferguson, Wenger) have no player career to brag about. Being good at the game is not always a must to be able to understand and solve the game and have others play it out. Average? You understand that to even be a coach in most sports you have to play at the professional level, meaning you are not "average" by any stretch of the imagination? That or you have to work from amateur levels all the way up to professional in the coaching world, which is no small feat either. Look at tennis, the most international sport of them all. Very few coaches do not have professional experience; the only two that come to mind that are successful are Toni Nadal, and Richard Williams, both who are coaches mainly due to their emotional bond with their player, not because of their technical skills (their players don't need "coaching" they need emotional support more than anything). Professional as in they made money, hell people in masters would've made money if this was as big as football. They were not even close to being kings of the hill. To be a professional player in tennis, you have an ATP point. That would put you in an elite category of like top 4000-5000 people in the world. That means out of all the tennis players out there, you are better than every single one except like .0001% of the population of the damn world. It's a joke to believe that Coaches that have professional experience are bad players. They would kick your teeth in even at their age in their respective sport. yah, and a diamond player would kick the the teeth in of every single person except like .0001% of the population of the damn world. Diamond is top 20% of the current population of players playing the game. That's not anywhere near close to an ATP pro.
well, diamond could be the 20th percentile, or the 3rd, since the top 2% are masters, so that doesn't really hold.
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Ha well i'm stuck in Irvine for the moment :D
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It's a shame that I have zero idea of what I'm doing when it comes to using the editor, or when it comes to balancing games.
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This thread is hilarious. Some people are saying that "a player with good understanding, but poor mechanics should at least make it to masters". As far as I remember, it used to be the complete opposite. How many times have I heard that "you can reach higher tiers on macro alone, without using strategy"?
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On August 03 2012 10:19 Sitinte wrote:
It's a shame that I have zero idea of what I'm doing when it comes to using the editor, or when it comes to balancing games.
Testing stuff? Or do you think balancing is all about theorycrafting? If you can mess with the editor to test your stuff easily without asking someone else to make it, don't you think that would be more efficient?
geez
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Everyone needs to calm themselves and quit throwing a fit. The diamond level is specifically just a MINIMUM. I'd assume the reason they chose the diamond level is 1. there isn't that many random players in Masters & GM and 2. they don't want to miss any excellent candidates that possibly just don't have enough time to play the game right now and that's the reasoning why they are in diamond. There is much more that goes into balancing a game than APM and unit control.
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Some people just don't know what they are talking about. It's not like Blizzard will hire everyone that meet the requirement. They are hiring more people to work as a team.
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On August 03 2012 10:23 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 10:19 Sitinte wrote:
It's a shame that I have zero idea of what I'm doing when it comes to using the editor, or when it comes to balancing games. Testing stuff? Or do you think balancing is all about theorycrafting? If you can mess with the editor to test your stuff easily without asking someone else to make it, don't you think that would be more efficient? geez
I don't understand your hostility towards me. I'm only saying that I don't have experience with what they listed under "plus".
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On August 03 2012 10:27 Wildmoon wrote:
Some people just don't know what they are talking about. It's not like Blizzard will hire everyone that meet the requirement.
From what blabber has said about his and his friend's interviews for this kind of position earlier in the thread, I doubt Blizzard will hire anyone at all short of a David Kim 2.0. They're essentially waiting for a prodigy game designer/player/mapmaker to come along to take as an assistant.
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On August 03 2012 10:28 Sitinte wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 10:23 Zephirdd wrote:On August 03 2012 10:19 Sitinte wrote:
It's a shame that I have zero idea of what I'm doing when it comes to using the editor, or when it comes to balancing games. Testing stuff? Or do you think balancing is all about theorycrafting? If you can mess with the editor to test your stuff easily without asking someone else to make it, don't you think that would be more efficient? geez I don't understand your hostility towards me. I'm only saying that I don't have experience with what they listed under "plus".
I misread it, I'm sorry. I read it as "I have zero idea of what they are doing when it comes to using the editor and balancing games"
I apologize.
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I applied.
I am a high master with all 3 races
Dont worry world, there is still hope!
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They said atleast diamond. It's not like all the people they will pick will be diamond. They might even get some master players and pick them too.
Also, the diamond league players won't be alone in this process. I imagine they are just trying to add on to their balance team to make balancing go faster.
I like this decision. Instead of having to wait a year for a pretty balanced game, perhaps it will take 6 months instead. Have faith people.
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On August 03 2012 10:30 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 10:27 Wildmoon wrote:
Some people just don't know what they are talking about. It's not like Blizzard will hire everyone that meet the requirement. From what blabber has said about his and his friend's interviews for this kind of position earlier in the thread, I doubt Blizzard will hire anyone at all short of a David Kim 2.0. They're essentially waiting for a prodigy game designer/player/mapmaker to come along to take as an assistant.
You basically have to be able to do everything at decent level about Starcraft.
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rofl, this is just despairing, poor blizzard ..
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Well I applied for it, and I'm top 10 masters Random player so.. hopefully I get a response :D
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