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On April 25 2012 04:57 Ragados wrote:
I think the ridiculous part is that no one has stuck up for this guy and his mom. Out of all the people there that witnessed it, not one person had the decency to say that no one was targeted, saying it was simply an honest mistake. All I can say is that I guess Bad Luck Brian really does exist, and he is Norwegian.
Doesn't that tell you that he's probably not as innocent as he claims and we don't know the full story?
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On April 25 2012 04:52 nihlon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 04:20 dUTtrOACh wrote:
How the fuck do you turn down a one-way street, going the wrong way, and ignoring all the people yelling at you probably saying "Hey, you're going the wrong way, dumbass!"? No wonder he was bullied in Oslo and chastised in America. He might be booksmart, but he's obviously life stupid.
EDIT: I was at a party where some drunken, crazy girl started driving up and down the street trying to run people over. She ended up being booted in the face and dragged away by the cops. She was to blame.
Yes if you try to run people over you are to blame. Did you have a point that ties into this story?
Yes. I made my point above the edit.
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7.5 years in jail. That's harsh.
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I wonder if the DoJ is going to get involved. I'm sure the Norwegian authorities aren't going to be pleased about this.
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On April 25 2012 05:13 Voltaire wrote:
I'm sure the Norwegian authorities aren't going to be pleased about this.
Who cares really?
Anyway, oh my god-----
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On April 25 2012 05:13 Voltaire wrote:
I wonder if the DoJ is going to get involved. I'm sure the Norwegian authorities aren't going to be pleased about this.
The DoJ has no standing to get involved unless his civil rights were violated in some way which they weren't... since it is a State and not Federal matter Washington can't do much except shrug its shoulders and I think Arizona's response to any Norwegian government actions will be a trollface.
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On April 24 2012 19:51 Unreliablex wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 16:57 SafeAsCheese wrote:On April 24 2012 16:47 screamingpalm wrote:
Any source for this?
No It's an extremely long pile of horseshit. At best, most of it is false and spun heavily. Must suck to be wrong. I just read this on one of Norways biggest newspapers internettpage, and it disgusted me like fuck. I do not understand how this is possible, at all. The normal thing to do if someone drives in the wrong direction with the car is to tell them to turn around, not to act like inconsiderate idiots.
Oh my, I am so sorry.
They must never ever have any wrong or biased "facts".
I apologize for not trusting almighty Norway.
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This is absolutely ridicoulus, I have no words for this. Im sorry to bash on Americans, but your justice system is a joke. 7,5 years, just wow. Take one bad turn in life and your screwed over for 7,5 years. I just really hope he gets to serve in Norway.
This situation is actually hard to believe, and actually makes me think twice about wanting to visit USA, when this shit can happen.
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Seems harsh... based off the ONE Norwegian resource we have on what happened.
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On April 25 2012 04:59 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 04:57 Ragados wrote:
I think the ridiculous part is that no one has stuck up for this guy and his mom. Out of all the people there that witnessed it, not one person had the decency to say that no one was targeted, saying it was simply an honest mistake. All I can say is that I guess Bad Luck Brian really does exist, and he is Norwegian. Doesn't that tell you that he's probably not as innocent as he claims and we don't know the full story?
Lol. Logic here would seem to indicate that there's more to this story that was reported in this Norwegian newspaper.
On April 25 2012 05:16 DeepElemBlues wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 05:13 Voltaire wrote:
I wonder if the DoJ is going to get involved. I'm sure the Norwegian authorities aren't going to be pleased about this. The DoJ has no standing to get involved unless his civil rights were violated in some way which they weren't... since it is a State and not Federal matter Washington can't do much except shrug its shoulders and I think Arizona's response to any Norwegian government actions will be a trollface.
Yeah, it would have to be a pretty egrigous breach of protocol or a case of over-the-top incompetence for the federal government to be able to intervene.
I also highly doubt the Norwegian government would spend political capital to raise the issue with the US in the first place, and even if they could intervene I'm not sure the US government would care. There are thousands of dual citizens living in the US, the federal government isn't going to get involved and pull strings everytime one of them gets into trouble with the law.
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On April 25 2012 05:16 DeepElemBlues wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 05:13 Voltaire wrote:
I wonder if the DoJ is going to get involved. I'm sure the Norwegian authorities aren't going to be pleased about this. The DoJ has no standing to get involved unless his civil rights were violated in some way which they weren't... since it is a State and not Federal matter Washington can't do much except shrug its shoulders and I think Arizona's response to any Norwegian government actions will be a trollface.
I think the DoJ can make a pretty good case that his civil rights were violated. I think there is a strong argument that the sentence constitutes "cruel and unusual punishment." Also, Arizona receives a lot of federal funding (as do all states), so the federal government can easily put pressure on Arizona if it chooses to.
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Pretty sure Jonas støre (the Ministry of Foreign Affairs "boss") wont have anything of this. I'm sure he will get deported to norway soon along with a reduced sentence. If not, then the legal system in US really sucks
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On April 25 2012 05:22 Voltaire wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 05:16 DeepElemBlues wrote:On April 25 2012 05:13 Voltaire wrote:
I wonder if the DoJ is going to get involved. I'm sure the Norwegian authorities aren't going to be pleased about this. The DoJ has no standing to get involved unless his civil rights were violated in some way which they weren't... since it is a State and not Federal matter Washington can't do much except shrug its shoulders and I think Arizona's response to any Norwegian government actions will be a trollface. I think the DoJ can make a pretty good case that his civil rights were violated. I'd think the sentence constitutes "cruel and unusual punishment." Also, Arizona receives a lot of federal funding (as do all states, so the federal government can easily put pressure on Arizona if it chooses to.
A judge is not going to make a finding that this sentence constitutes cruel and unusual punishment, the burden to prove that is set very high for the very reason that is if it was easy to successfully claim every one who had a harsh sentence would say that it was cruel and unusual. And the federal government isn't going to get in a pissing match with Arizona over federal funding for the sake of one guy just because some people are outraged, outraged! over his sentence.
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On April 25 2012 04:59 dUTtrOACh wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 04:52 nihlon wrote:On April 25 2012 04:20 dUTtrOACh wrote:
How the fuck do you turn down a one-way street, going the wrong way, and ignoring all the people yelling at you probably saying "Hey, you're going the wrong way, dumbass!"? No wonder he was bullied in Oslo and chastised in America. He might be booksmart, but he's obviously life stupid.
EDIT: I was at a party where some drunken, crazy girl started driving up and down the street trying to run people over. She ended up being booted in the face and dragged away by the cops. She was to blame.
Yes if you try to run people over you are to blame. Did you have a point that ties into this story? Yes. I made my point above the edit.
I was talking about what you wrote in edit obviously....
It had nothing to do with this case or what you wrote above (not that you had much of a point there either. You think he's dumb, good for you). Also you added "She was to blame" like someone would think otherwise. When someone tries to run over someone else that's pretty much a given...
I was only looking for some deeper meaning to the story that obviously wasn't there.
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On April 25 2012 05:16 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 19:51 Unreliablex wrote:On April 24 2012 16:57 SafeAsCheese wrote:On April 24 2012 16:47 screamingpalm wrote:
Any source for this?
No It's an extremely long pile of horseshit. At best, most of it is false and spun heavily. Must suck to be wrong. I just read this on one of Norways biggest newspapers internettpage, and it disgusted me like fuck. I do not understand how this is possible, at all. The normal thing to do if someone drives in the wrong direction with the car is to tell them to turn around, not to act like inconsiderate idiots. Oh my, I am so sorry. They must never ever have any wrong or biased "facts". I apologize for not trusting almighty Norway.
The fact that you can sit there, and doubt the integrity of his mother whom sat next to him when those american witnesses sat in court and basically acted out emotional trauma means a lot to me.
Comon: One person got hit on the toe as a result of a scared norwegian flooring his car in reverse, who initially had no intention of hurting anyone and was merely frightened to death by being hit in straight in the face by the leader of an increasingly angry mob.
Witness claims: He tried to kill 6 people by backing into them with his car. The mother and the kids are now emotionally damaged and the father punched the student to "disarm" him of his car.
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On April 25 2012 05:22 Voltaire wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 05:16 DeepElemBlues wrote:On April 25 2012 05:13 Voltaire wrote:
I wonder if the DoJ is going to get involved. I'm sure the Norwegian authorities aren't going to be pleased about this. The DoJ has no standing to get involved unless his civil rights were violated in some way which they weren't... since it is a State and not Federal matter Washington can't do much except shrug its shoulders and I think Arizona's response to any Norwegian government actions will be a trollface. I think the DoJ can make a pretty good case that his civil rights were violated. I think there is a strong argument that the sentence constitutes "cruel and unusual punishment." Also, Arizona receives a lot of federal funding (as do all states), so the federal government can easily put pressure on Arizona if it chooses to.
I'm not sure you understand how the US justice system works. The federal government almost never gets involved in cases like this.
People should really wait for more facts to develop before jumping to conclusions about America's legal system too.
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wow. this judge is slow. adding is so hard. also there was anger involved x6
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On April 25 2012 05:29 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 05:22 Voltaire wrote:On April 25 2012 05:16 DeepElemBlues wrote:On April 25 2012 05:13 Voltaire wrote:
I wonder if the DoJ is going to get involved. I'm sure the Norwegian authorities aren't going to be pleased about this. The DoJ has no standing to get involved unless his civil rights were violated in some way which they weren't... since it is a State and not Federal matter Washington can't do much except shrug its shoulders and I think Arizona's response to any Norwegian government actions will be a trollface. I think the DoJ can make a pretty good case that his civil rights were violated. I think there is a strong argument that the sentence constitutes "cruel and unusual punishment." Also, Arizona receives a lot of federal funding (as do all states), so the federal government can easily put pressure on Arizona if it chooses to. I'm not sure you understand how the US justice system works. The federal government almost never gets involved in cases like this. People should really wait for more facts to develop before jumping to conclusions about America's legal system too.
Isn't this basically what is happening with Trayvon Martin, though? The DoJ is conducting its own investigation in that case.
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