EPTOn April 25 2012 03:58 TheBanana wrote:
...I'm doubting his honesty badly...
...I'm doubting his honesty badly...
That seemed to be exactly what the prosecution was saying before the stream went down (at least for me).
Norwegian student risks 35 years in jail in the US - Page 15
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
That seemed to be exactly what the prosecution was saying before the stream went down (at least for me). | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On April 25 2012 03:58 TheBanana wrote: The other side of the jogging story: "According to Defendants, Larsgard was stalking their daughter Nichole. Accordingly, "[t]his was not an unprovoked attack on a stranger, but a man who followed his fascination with a young teenage girl from Mobile, Alabama to Illinois."" He sued them. The school-story has in media been told from only one point of view, his. And his side sounds remarkably unbelievable and not logical at all. He sued the school. This story, has similarities to the second story, in that it's presented from his point of view and sounds unbelievable. He has tried to sue witnesses. I think he's painting a picture far from the truth, and I would like to hear the other side of the story. I'm doubting his honesty badly. See, that's pretty interesting to hear. When I first read the OP I felt like it sounded pretty unrealistic. I also felt like we were only hearing what he had to say so obviously it's gonna try and make him sound innocent. Really need to hear more of the facts and get information from more than one source. | ||
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phoenix`down
49 Posts
What goal will sticking him in jail for such a long time accomplish? It would just screw him up more than he already is. We really need to focus on prevention and rehabilitation more than punishment in this country. | ||
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
On April 25 2012 04:01 ErikZerg wrote: Americans -.- You rang? What about them? Also at the post above, I agree, but I tihnk the jail time is the "aggravated assault" part - just because you take the license away doesn't mean he won't get in a car and do it all over again. of course throwing him in jail doesn't prevent that either but I think that's the direct reasoning. | ||
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seedfreedom
Canada38 Posts
On April 25 2012 03:40 silynxer wrote: Are we reading the same article? There was no scene and no hit and run at the time he first went away (without injuring anyone) because he did not actually hit anybody at that time. Yeah you can be pissed at somebody for almost hitting you or especially your kids, you can write down their number plate, call the cops and gather witnesses but you cannot call that a hit and run and absolutely cannot encircle the car and question and attack the driver. he almost ran over the mans wife and kids in a hot dog stand before the guy punched the driver. That IS A SCENE. no the fact that no one was actually hit isnt important. you cant go and try to rob a bank and expect not to be punished just because you failed and didnt actually steal any money. what you did has the potential and intent to do harm. He was reckless and the fact he didnt kill anyone at the time was pure luck. he still committed a crime. reckless endangerment. | ||
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On April 25 2012 04:05 DannyJ wrote: That seemed to be exactly what the prosecution was saying before the stream went down (at least for me). Oh, I haven't watched the stream. I read about this last night and googled his name to find out more about this story, there was no other source at the time, instead I found articles about the two other stories I mentioned. | ||
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Undrass
Norway381 Posts
On April 25 2012 03:58 TheBanana wrote: The other side of the jogging story: "According to Defendants, Larsgard was stalking their daughter Nichole. Accordingly, "[t]his was not an unprovoked attack on a stranger, but a man who followed his fascination with a young teenage girl from Mobile, Alabama to Illinois."" He sued them. The school-story has in media been told from only one point of view, his. And his side sounds remarkably unbelievable and not logical at all. He sued the school. This story, has similarities to the second story, in that it's presented from his point of view and sounds unbelievable. He has tried to sue witnesses. I think he's painting a picture far from the truth, and I would like to hear the other side of the story. I'm doubting his honesty badly. About the terrorist bit: He was taking a biochemistry class. After 9/11 the University of South Alabama in Mobile was afraid of more terrorism. Larsgard, being a foreigner with access to dangerous material in the labs, was therefore a obvious threat. They were basically concerned that he would poison the water-supply of a city. Thus, Larsgard was kicked out of that class because he could be a terrorist, because he was a foreigner. Larsgard later sued the university and won the case. http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2001/10/12/287340.html | ||
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On April 25 2012 04:15 Undrass wrote: About the terrorist bit: He was taking a biochemistry class. After 9/11 the University of South Alabama in Mobile was afraid of more terrorism. Larsgard, being a foreigner with access to dangerous material in the labs, was therefore a obvious threat. They were basically concerned that he would poison the water-supply of a city. Thus, Larsgard was kicked out of that class because he could be a terrorist, because he was a foreigner. Larsgard later sued the university and won the case. http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2001/10/12/287340.html He won? Where is the source on that? The link you provided is only his side of the story and is one that I have already read and I find it hard to believe. + Show Spoiler + Especially this part: "Faget Larsgard går på er så vanskelig at bare noen dagers fravær gjør at man ikke har mulighet til å ta igjen det tapte arbeidet og bestå eksamen." | ||
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dUTtrOACh
Canada2339 Posts
EDIT: I was at a party where some drunken, crazy girl started driving up and down the street trying to run people over. She ended up being booted in the face and dragged away by the cops. She was to blame. | ||
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phoenix`down
49 Posts
On April 25 2012 04:10 Torenhire wrote: You rang? What about them? Also at the post above, I agree, but I tihnk the jail time is the "aggravated assault" part - just because you take the license away doesn't mean he won't get in a car and do it all over again. of course throwing him in jail doesn't prevent that either but I think that's the direct reasoning. That is kind of my point though; this was all an accident, and it isn't like sending him to jail for five years will make him a better driver. I just think that for this type of incident, these arbitrarily long jail sentences don't make any sense. Who is to say that 10 days in jail wouldn't have the exact same effect as 35 years without wasting a large portion of the guys life. It makes way more sense to me to just take the guys license and do our best to ensure he doesn't drive anymore. | ||
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Zythius
Norway94 Posts
I'm amazed that the world wide bio chem industry and student body didn't stand up for him at that point. You can't really go on with ruining the life of innocent bio chem students just because of 9/11. EDIT: Spineless, that's what it was. Cowardly to let one man be harassed by the university like that. I bet the real reason for kicking him out was that he is a "complainer". Professors and administration don't like them, and I can understand that to some extent. As far as I can see he is somewhat retarded when it comes to social interaction, so I'm not surprised in the slightest if he managed to get on someone's bad side. | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
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silynxer
Germany439 Posts
On April 25 2012 04:11 seedfreedom wrote: he almost ran over the mans wife and kids in a hot dog stand before the guy punched the driver. That IS A SCENE. no the fact that no one was actually hit isnt important. you cant go and try to rob a bank and expect not to be punished just because you failed and didnt actually steal any money. what you did has the potential and intent to do harm. He was reckless and the fact he didnt kill anyone at the time was pure luck. he still committed a crime. reckless endangerment. The fact that nobody got hurt is freaking important both in law and in any common moral (I hope at least). He might have been reckless and surely he was endagering other people and I proposed how people should have acted. Call it a scene if you like but it's not a scene of a hit and run. If there is not a huge part of the story missing (like actual intent to hurt anybody), I think 5 years is way too much. | ||
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On April 25 2012 04:26 Zythius wrote: Yeah, the terrrorism-case with him was f-ing insane! I'm amazed that the world wide bio chem industry and student body didn't stand up for him at that point. You can't really go on with ruining the life of innocent bio chem students just because of 9/11. EDIT: Spineless, that's what it was. Cowardly to let one man be harassed by the university like that. I bet the real reason for kicking him out was that he is a "complainer". Professors and administration don't like them, and I can understand that to some extent. As far as I can see he is somewhat retarded when it comes to social interaction, so I'm not surprised in the slightest if he managed to get on someone's bad side. Where is your source? I only find his and his mothers side by googling, apart from this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2001/dec/21/highereducation.internationaleducationnews "Best dramatic performance: To Kristoffer Larsgard, from Oslo, who, in September, was suspended from the University of South Alabama. The 22-year-old Norwegian student has said he intends to take legal action to get back onto his biochemistry course at the Alabama institution, where, he admitted to Norway's Aftenposten newspaper, he and a number of fellow students grew cholera, salmonella and several other harmful germs in the laboratory. Mr Larsgard said he feels he has been called a potential terrorist in all but name after a university official told him he believed the student was planning to contaminate the town's water system. Mr Larsgard said he didn't know what the university was referring to when it says he was involved in serious misconduct, although he has speculated it might have to do with a court case in the state of Illinois, in which he was acquitted, or another incident in which a teacher may have been upset when he missed classes to appear in court." | ||
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momonami5
United States109 Posts
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Demand2k
Norway875 Posts
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DeepElemBlues
United States5080 Posts
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Cutlery
Norway565 Posts
On April 25 2012 03:25 woody60707 wrote: Yep. The news story didn't say how he left the sense of the accident with out checking if the people he hit were ok. It also seems like one of the reason he was found guilty was because he was making contradictory statements (The mean way to say that would be to call that lying). he got punched in the face, why would he check on people punching him? | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On April 25 2012 04:20 dUTtrOACh wrote: How the fuck do you turn down a one-way street, going the wrong way, and ignoring all the people yelling at you probably saying "Hey, you're going the wrong way, dumbass!"? No wonder he was bullied in Oslo and chastised in America. He might be booksmart, but he's obviously life stupid. EDIT: I was at a party where some drunken, crazy girl started driving up and down the street trying to run people over. She ended up being booted in the face and dragged away by the cops. She was to blame. Yes if you try to run people over you are to blame. Did you have a point that ties into this story? | ||
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Ragados
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