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obesemk
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway267 Posts
April 24 2012 20:31 GMT
#321
On April 25 2012 05:29 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 05:22 Voltaire wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:16 DeepElemBlues wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:13 Voltaire wrote:
I wonder if the DoJ is going to get involved. I'm sure the Norwegian authorities aren't going to be pleased about this.


The DoJ has no standing to get involved unless his civil rights were violated in some way which they weren't... since it is a State and not Federal matter Washington can't do much except shrug its shoulders and I think Arizona's response to any Norwegian government actions will be a trollface.


I think the DoJ can make a pretty good case that his civil rights were violated. I think there is a strong argument that the sentence constitutes "cruel and unusual punishment." Also, Arizona receives a lot of federal funding (as do all states), so the federal government can easily put pressure on Arizona if it chooses to.


I'm not sure you understand how the US justice system works. The federal government almost never gets involved in cases like this.

People should really wait for more facts to develop before jumping to conclusions about America's legal system too.


We already know the US legal system is fucked up.
seedfreedom
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada38 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 20:35:42
April 24 2012 20:33 GMT
#322
On April 25 2012 05:29 Madkipz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 05:16 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On April 24 2012 19:51 Unreliablex wrote:
On April 24 2012 16:57 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On April 24 2012 16:47 screamingpalm wrote:
Any source for this?


No

It's an extremely long pile of horseshit. At best, most of it is false and spun heavily.



Must suck to be wrong.

I just read this on one of Norways biggest newspapers internettpage, and it disgusted me like fuck.

I do not understand how this is possible, at all. The normal thing to do if someone drives in the wrong direction with the car is to tell them to turn around, not to act like inconsiderate idiots.


Oh my, I am so sorry.

They must never ever have any wrong or biased "facts".

I apologize for not trusting almighty Norway.


The fact that you can sit there, and doubt the integrity of his mother whom sat next to him when those american witnesses sat in court and basically acted out emotional trauma means a lot to me.

Comon: One person got hit on the toe as a result of a scared norwegian flooring his car in reverse, who initially had no intention of hurting anyone and was merely frightened to death by being hit in straight in the face by the leader of an increasingly angry mob.

Witness claims: He tried to kill 6 people by backing into them with his car. The mother and the kids are now emotionally damaged and the father punched the student to "disarm" him of his car.


because the mother of the accused is definitely the most un-biased person in the room and the evil Americans are only out to get foreigners...

also the guy wasnt punched in the face UNTIL HE ALMOST RAN OVER AND KILLED THE MANS WIFE AND KIDS. way to leave out a very crucial detail.
nymfaw
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway430 Posts
April 24 2012 20:35 GMT
#323
sooo how much does US private owned prisons earn on these guys?
Everything will be ok in the end. if it's not ok, its not the end.
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
April 24 2012 20:36 GMT
#324
Even though I believe this guy is as guilty as can be, the punishment is insane.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
Cutlery
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway565 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 20:39:38
April 24 2012 20:37 GMT
#325
most of that would not have held in a real court, would it? Witnesses speculating about the intents of someone behind a wheel? If they were sooooo scared of him and his car, why did they put their foot in front of his wheels? Why did they flock to his car? haha... Also the judge allowed hearsay on terrorist charges in his past, didn't he? What a weird thing to do. There's the truth, and there's the truth; but that judge has an IQ of about 87 and wouldn't know the truth eitherway, i mean, hearsay? comeon haha. He was just searching for more ways to nail this guy. Come on. Nothing here made sense at all. Even a 3 year old could tell it made no sense. "Oh mr you can't park here!" WAIT YOU ARE RUNNING OVER MY CHILD. NO, DON'T PARK! WAIT IM SCARED I THINK WE SHOULD STEP CLOSER TO THE CAR WITH THE TEMPORARILY INSANE DRIVER. oh and there is anger!
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
April 24 2012 20:37 GMT
#326
On April 25 2012 05:31 obesemk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 05:29 overt wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:22 Voltaire wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:16 DeepElemBlues wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:13 Voltaire wrote:
I wonder if the DoJ is going to get involved. I'm sure the Norwegian authorities aren't going to be pleased about this.


The DoJ has no standing to get involved unless his civil rights were violated in some way which they weren't... since it is a State and not Federal matter Washington can't do much except shrug its shoulders and I think Arizona's response to any Norwegian government actions will be a trollface.


I think the DoJ can make a pretty good case that his civil rights were violated. I think there is a strong argument that the sentence constitutes "cruel and unusual punishment." Also, Arizona receives a lot of federal funding (as do all states), so the federal government can easily put pressure on Arizona if it chooses to.


I'm not sure you understand how the US justice system works. The federal government almost never gets involved in cases like this.

People should really wait for more facts to develop before jumping to conclusions about America's legal system too.


We already know the US legal system is fucked up.


It is. But using this case when there are so little facts as evidence that it sucks is really stupid. I'm all for criticizing America, there are lots of things that I dislike about my own country. But this case has so little information available currently that it's pretty ridiculous to see people saying the things they are.
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 20:46:20
April 24 2012 20:38 GMT
#327
On April 25 2012 05:31 Voltaire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 05:29 overt wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:22 Voltaire wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:16 DeepElemBlues wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:13 Voltaire wrote:
I wonder if the DoJ is going to get involved. I'm sure the Norwegian authorities aren't going to be pleased about this.


The DoJ has no standing to get involved unless his civil rights were violated in some way which they weren't... since it is a State and not Federal matter Washington can't do much except shrug its shoulders and I think Arizona's response to any Norwegian government actions will be a trollface.


I think the DoJ can make a pretty good case that his civil rights were violated. I think there is a strong argument that the sentence constitutes "cruel and unusual punishment." Also, Arizona receives a lot of federal funding (as do all states), so the federal government can easily put pressure on Arizona if it chooses to.


I'm not sure you understand how the US justice system works. The federal government almost never gets involved in cases like this.

People should really wait for more facts to develop before jumping to conclusions about America's legal system too.


Isn't this basically what is happening with Trayvon Martin, though? The DoJ is conducting its own investigation in that case.


The Trayvon Martin case is also extremely high profile with groups on either side threatning violence, etc. There are also pretty serious questions as to the integrity of the police investigation.

This case, however, has not made a single US news outlett. Kind of a big difference there.

On April 25 2012 05:35 nymfaw wrote:
sooo how much does US private owned prisons earn on these guys?


What? We don't have private owned prisons.... O.o

-edit: Actually sorry, it looks like it's mostly a southern thing, which is why I've never heard of this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_prison#Private_prisons_in_the_United_States_today

Though I think the gaurds still work for the state, the companies for the most part just operate the facility?
--
More than likely, if he actually ends up serving any of that 5 years in prison, he will be at a facility operated by the Arizona department of corrections within the state.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 20:41:35
April 24 2012 20:39 GMT
#328
On April 25 2012 05:35 nymfaw wrote:
sooo how much does US private owned prisons earn on these guys?


Do you know that the prison where he will serve his term is a privatized one? No? Well, that's nothing new for this thread...

most of that would not have held in a real court, would it? Witnesses speculating about the intents of someone behind a wheel? Also the judge allowed hearsay on terrorist charges in his past, didn't he? What a weird thing to do. There's the truth, and there's the truth; but that judge has an IQ of about 87 and wouldn't know the truth eitherway, i mean, hearsay? comeon haha. He was just searching for more ways to nail this guy


Sentencing is different from trial, a judge is allowed to consider the totality of circumstances regarding the defendant including testimony in defense of the defendant that wouldn't be allowed at trial as well as testimony against the defendant that wouldn't be allowed at trial, please don't make insults about the IQs of people you don't know when you express such ignorance of the legal system.
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
April 24 2012 20:39 GMT
#329
On April 25 2012 05:33 seedfreedom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 05:29 Madkipz wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:16 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On April 24 2012 19:51 Unreliablex wrote:
On April 24 2012 16:57 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On April 24 2012 16:47 screamingpalm wrote:
Any source for this?


No

It's an extremely long pile of horseshit. At best, most of it is false and spun heavily.



Must suck to be wrong.

I just read this on one of Norways biggest newspapers internettpage, and it disgusted me like fuck.

I do not understand how this is possible, at all. The normal thing to do if someone drives in the wrong direction with the car is to tell them to turn around, not to act like inconsiderate idiots.


Oh my, I am so sorry.

They must never ever have any wrong or biased "facts".

I apologize for not trusting almighty Norway.


The fact that you can sit there, and doubt the integrity of his mother whom sat next to him when those american witnesses sat in court and basically acted out emotional trauma means a lot to me.

Comon: One person got hit on the toe as a result of a scared norwegian flooring his car in reverse, who initially had no intention of hurting anyone and was merely frightened to death by being hit in straight in the face by the leader of an increasingly angry mob.

Witness claims: He tried to kill 6 people by backing into them with his car. The mother and the kids are now emotionally damaged and the father punched the student to "disarm" him of his car.


because the mother of the accused is definitely the most un-biased person in the room and the evil Americans are only out to get foreigners...

also the guy wasnt punched in the face UNTIL HE ALMOST RAN OVER AND KILLED THE MANS WIFE AND KIDS. way to leave out a very crucial detail.


Almost is a big deal here, he had no intention of hurting anyone and nobody died. This in no way constitutes to fucking 7.5 years in jail.
"Mudkip"
seedfreedom
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada38 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 20:43:53
April 24 2012 20:40 GMT
#330
On April 25 2012 05:39 Madkipz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 05:33 seedfreedom wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:29 Madkipz wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:16 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On April 24 2012 19:51 Unreliablex wrote:
On April 24 2012 16:57 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On April 24 2012 16:47 screamingpalm wrote:
Any source for this?


No

It's an extremely long pile of horseshit. At best, most of it is false and spun heavily.



Must suck to be wrong.

I just read this on one of Norways biggest newspapers internettpage, and it disgusted me like fuck.

I do not understand how this is possible, at all. The normal thing to do if someone drives in the wrong direction with the car is to tell them to turn around, not to act like inconsiderate idiots.


Oh my, I am so sorry.

They must never ever have any wrong or biased "facts".

I apologize for not trusting almighty Norway.


The fact that you can sit there, and doubt the integrity of his mother whom sat next to him when those american witnesses sat in court and basically acted out emotional trauma means a lot to me.

Comon: One person got hit on the toe as a result of a scared norwegian flooring his car in reverse, who initially had no intention of hurting anyone and was merely frightened to death by being hit in straight in the face by the leader of an increasingly angry mob.

Witness claims: He tried to kill 6 people by backing into them with his car. The mother and the kids are now emotionally damaged and the father punched the student to "disarm" him of his car.


because the mother of the accused is definitely the most un-biased person in the room and the evil Americans are only out to get foreigners...

also the guy wasnt punched in the face UNTIL HE ALMOST RAN OVER AND KILLED THE MANS WIFE AND KIDS. way to leave out a very crucial detail.


Almost is a big deal here, he had no intention of hurting anyone and nobody died. This in no way constitutes to fucking 7.5 years in jail.


your right. the almost is what stops this from being manslaughter. doesnt get the guy off the hook.

look, im not american, but im also not Norwegian. i dont have patriot blinds for either side but i have to call it as it is. this guy should not be driving and put people in danger. he actually hurt other people. hes in a car, in a place hes not suppose to be driving. they cant hurt him unless he rolls his windows down and lets himself get hurt. they can shake their fist all they want at him but hes the one who should be in control and he lost it. There's no defense.
freewareplayer
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany403 Posts
April 24 2012 20:40 GMT
#331
On April 25 2012 05:33 seedfreedom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 05:29 Madkipz wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:16 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On April 24 2012 19:51 Unreliablex wrote:
On April 24 2012 16:57 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On April 24 2012 16:47 screamingpalm wrote:
Any source for this?


No

It's an extremely long pile of horseshit. At best, most of it is false and spun heavily.



Must suck to be wrong.

I just read this on one of Norways biggest newspapers internettpage, and it disgusted me like fuck.

I do not understand how this is possible, at all. The normal thing to do if someone drives in the wrong direction with the car is to tell them to turn around, not to act like inconsiderate idiots.


Oh my, I am so sorry.

They must never ever have any wrong or biased "facts".

I apologize for not trusting almighty Norway.


The fact that you can sit there, and doubt the integrity of his mother whom sat next to him when those american witnesses sat in court and basically acted out emotional trauma means a lot to me.

Comon: One person got hit on the toe as a result of a scared norwegian flooring his car in reverse, who initially had no intention of hurting anyone and was merely frightened to death by being hit in straight in the face by the leader of an increasingly angry mob.

Witness claims: He tried to kill 6 people by backing into them with his car. The mother and the kids are now emotionally damaged and the father punched the student to "disarm" him of his car.


because the mother of the accused is definitely the most un-biased person in the room and the evil Americans are only out to get foreigners...

also the guy wasnt punched in the face UNTIL HE ALMOST RAN OVER AND KILLED THE MANS WIFE AND KIDS. way to leave out a very crucial detail.

Technicly, even if he wouldve ran over the wife and kid, that doesnt give the man the right to assault him. Morally yes, legally no. But then again they werent harmed. Still understandable, but not all right.

Anyone knows whether the dad that threw the punch got convicted? Legally he commitated a crime, so they better charge that guy too if the driver gets 7,5 years.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
April 24 2012 20:42 GMT
#332
On April 25 2012 05:40 freewareplayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 05:33 seedfreedom wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:29 Madkipz wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:16 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On April 24 2012 19:51 Unreliablex wrote:
On April 24 2012 16:57 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On April 24 2012 16:47 screamingpalm wrote:
Any source for this?


No

It's an extremely long pile of horseshit. At best, most of it is false and spun heavily.



Must suck to be wrong.

I just read this on one of Norways biggest newspapers internettpage, and it disgusted me like fuck.

I do not understand how this is possible, at all. The normal thing to do if someone drives in the wrong direction with the car is to tell them to turn around, not to act like inconsiderate idiots.


Oh my, I am so sorry.

They must never ever have any wrong or biased "facts".

I apologize for not trusting almighty Norway.


The fact that you can sit there, and doubt the integrity of his mother whom sat next to him when those american witnesses sat in court and basically acted out emotional trauma means a lot to me.

Comon: One person got hit on the toe as a result of a scared norwegian flooring his car in reverse, who initially had no intention of hurting anyone and was merely frightened to death by being hit in straight in the face by the leader of an increasingly angry mob.

Witness claims: He tried to kill 6 people by backing into them with his car. The mother and the kids are now emotionally damaged and the father punched the student to "disarm" him of his car.


because the mother of the accused is definitely the most un-biased person in the room and the evil Americans are only out to get foreigners...

also the guy wasnt punched in the face UNTIL HE ALMOST RAN OVER AND KILLED THE MANS WIFE AND KIDS. way to leave out a very crucial detail.

Technicly, even if he wouldve ran over the wife and kid, that doesnt give the man the right to assault him. Morally yes, legally no. But then again they werent harmed. Still understandable, but not all right.

Anyone knows whether the dad that threw the punch got convicted? Legally he commitated a crime, so they better charge that guy too if the driver gets 7,5 years.


Depends on state laws, and I don't know Arizona laws, but he probably could've argued that it was self-defense.
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
April 24 2012 20:43 GMT
#333
Almost is a big deal here, he had no intention of hurting anyone and nobody died. This in no way constitutes to fucking 7.5 years in jail.


That's why it's called reckless instead of intentional... it's like you're not even trying.
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Cutlery
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway565 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 20:45:16
April 24 2012 20:43 GMT
#334
On April 25 2012 05:40 seedfreedom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 05:39 Madkipz wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:33 seedfreedom wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:29 Madkipz wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:16 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On April 24 2012 19:51 Unreliablex wrote:
On April 24 2012 16:57 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On April 24 2012 16:47 screamingpalm wrote:
Any source for this?


No

It's an extremely long pile of horseshit. At best, most of it is false and spun heavily.



Must suck to be wrong.

I just read this on one of Norways biggest newspapers internettpage, and it disgusted me like fuck.

I do not understand how this is possible, at all. The normal thing to do if someone drives in the wrong direction with the car is to tell them to turn around, not to act like inconsiderate idiots.


Oh my, I am so sorry.

They must never ever have any wrong or biased "facts".

I apologize for not trusting almighty Norway.


The fact that you can sit there, and doubt the integrity of his mother whom sat next to him when those american witnesses sat in court and basically acted out emotional trauma means a lot to me.

Comon: One person got hit on the toe as a result of a scared norwegian flooring his car in reverse, who initially had no intention of hurting anyone and was merely frightened to death by being hit in straight in the face by the leader of an increasingly angry mob.

Witness claims: He tried to kill 6 people by backing into them with his car. The mother and the kids are now emotionally damaged and the father punched the student to "disarm" him of his car.


because the mother of the accused is definitely the most un-biased person in the room and the evil Americans are only out to get foreigners...

also the guy wasnt punched in the face UNTIL HE ALMOST RAN OVER AND KILLED THE MANS WIFE AND KIDS. way to leave out a very crucial detail.


Almost is a big deal here, he had no intention of hurting anyone and nobody died. This in no way constitutes to fucking 7.5 years in jail.


your right. the almost is what stops this from being manslaughter. doesnt get the guy off the hook.


Sounds weird. Everytime you drive by a pedestrian, do you almost kill him? If you, by accident, get one wheel half atop the sidewalk, do you almost kill someone? When kids play in the street and you are driving 2 miles per hour, do you almost kill them? I mean, you are in-fact holding a weapon pretty close to their heads.

I'm scared of studying in the US now. I think I'll stay clear of the typical southern states for sure.
dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
April 24 2012 20:45 GMT
#335
On April 25 2012 05:28 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 04:59 dUTtrOACh wrote:
On April 25 2012 04:52 nihlon wrote:
On April 25 2012 04:20 dUTtrOACh wrote:
How the fuck do you turn down a one-way street, going the wrong way, and ignoring all the people yelling at you probably saying "Hey, you're going the wrong way, dumbass!"? No wonder he was bullied in Oslo and chastised in America. He might be booksmart, but he's obviously life stupid.

EDIT: I was at a party where some drunken, crazy girl started driving up and down the street trying to run people over. She ended up being booted in the face and dragged away by the cops. She was to blame.

Yes if you try to run people over you are to blame. Did you have a point that ties into this story?


Yes. I made my point above the edit.

I was talking about what you wrote in edit obviously....

It had nothing to do with this case or what you wrote above (not that you had much of a point there either. You think he's dumb, good for you). Also you added "She was to blame" like someone would think otherwise. When someone tries to run over someone else that's pretty much a given...

I was only looking for some deeper meaning to the story that obviously wasn't there.


Let's just say the edit was anecdotal. End of story.
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DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
April 24 2012 20:46 GMT
#336
Sounds weird. Everytime you drive by a pedestrian, do you almost kill him? If you, by accident, get one wheel half atop the sidewalk, do you almost kill someone? When kids play in the street and you are driving 2 miles per hour, do you almost kill them? I mean, you are in-fact holding a weapon pretty close to their heads.


Is that supposed to be serious?...
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
freewareplayer
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany403 Posts
April 24 2012 20:47 GMT
#337
On April 25 2012 05:42 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 05:40 freewareplayer wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:33 seedfreedom wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:29 Madkipz wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:16 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On April 24 2012 19:51 Unreliablex wrote:
On April 24 2012 16:57 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On April 24 2012 16:47 screamingpalm wrote:
Any source for this?


No

It's an extremely long pile of horseshit. At best, most of it is false and spun heavily.



Must suck to be wrong.

I just read this on one of Norways biggest newspapers internettpage, and it disgusted me like fuck.

I do not understand how this is possible, at all. The normal thing to do if someone drives in the wrong direction with the car is to tell them to turn around, not to act like inconsiderate idiots.


Oh my, I am so sorry.

They must never ever have any wrong or biased "facts".

I apologize for not trusting almighty Norway.


The fact that you can sit there, and doubt the integrity of his mother whom sat next to him when those american witnesses sat in court and basically acted out emotional trauma means a lot to me.

Comon: One person got hit on the toe as a result of a scared norwegian flooring his car in reverse, who initially had no intention of hurting anyone and was merely frightened to death by being hit in straight in the face by the leader of an increasingly angry mob.

Witness claims: He tried to kill 6 people by backing into them with his car. The mother and the kids are now emotionally damaged and the father punched the student to "disarm" him of his car.


because the mother of the accused is definitely the most un-biased person in the room and the evil Americans are only out to get foreigners...

also the guy wasnt punched in the face UNTIL HE ALMOST RAN OVER AND KILLED THE MANS WIFE AND KIDS. way to leave out a very crucial detail.

Technicly, even if he wouldve ran over the wife and kid, that doesnt give the man the right to assault him. Morally yes, legally no. But then again they werent harmed. Still understandable, but not all right.

Anyone knows whether the dad that threw the punch got convicted? Legally he commitated a crime, so they better charge that guy too if the driver gets 7,5 years.


Depends on state laws, and I don't know Arizona laws, but he probably could've argued that it was self-defense.

Well he couldve argued it but the word " SELF-defense" hardly applies to other people.
If someone hurts your family and you retaliate by assaulting the person that braught them harm, but currently isnt doing so any more thats being a vigilante lol.
And the family didnt even get hurt....
Cutlery
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway565 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 20:48:43
April 24 2012 20:48 GMT
#338
On April 25 2012 05:40 seedfreedom wrote:
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On April 25 2012 05:39 Madkipz wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:33 seedfreedom wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:29 Madkipz wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:16 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On April 24 2012 19:51 Unreliablex wrote:
On April 24 2012 16:57 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On April 24 2012 16:47 screamingpalm wrote:
Any source for this?


No

It's an extremely long pile of horseshit. At best, most of it is false and spun heavily.



Must suck to be wrong.

I just read this on one of Norways biggest newspapers internettpage, and it disgusted me like fuck.

I do not understand how this is possible, at all. The normal thing to do if someone drives in the wrong direction with the car is to tell them to turn around, not to act like inconsiderate idiots.


Oh my, I am so sorry.

They must never ever have any wrong or biased "facts".

I apologize for not trusting almighty Norway.


The fact that you can sit there, and doubt the integrity of his mother whom sat next to him when those american witnesses sat in court and basically acted out emotional trauma means a lot to me.

Comon: One person got hit on the toe as a result of a scared norwegian flooring his car in reverse, who initially had no intention of hurting anyone and was merely frightened to death by being hit in straight in the face by the leader of an increasingly angry mob.

Witness claims: He tried to kill 6 people by backing into them with his car. The mother and the kids are now emotionally damaged and the father punched the student to "disarm" him of his car.


because the mother of the accused is definitely the most un-biased person in the room and the evil Americans are only out to get foreigners...

also the guy wasnt punched in the face UNTIL HE ALMOST RAN OVER AND KILLED THE MANS WIFE AND KIDS. way to leave out a very crucial detail.


Almost is a big deal here, he had no intention of hurting anyone and nobody died. This in no way constitutes to fucking 7.5 years in jail.


your right. the almost is what stops this from being manslaughter. doesnt get the guy off the hook.

look, im not american, but im also not Norwegian. i dont have patriot blinds for either side but i have to call it as it is. this guy should not be driving and put people in danger. he actually hurt other people. hes in a car, in a place hes not suppose to be driving. they cant hurt him unless he rolls his windows down and lets himself get hurt. they can shake their fist all they want at him but hes the one who should be in control and he lost it. There's no defense.


I agree in part, but it sounds stupid when you claim that he should not be driving on the road. Yes it was one-way; still people shouldn't stand in the street even if it is one way.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
April 24 2012 20:48 GMT
#339
On April 25 2012 05:43 Cutlery wrote:
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On April 25 2012 05:40 seedfreedom wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:39 Madkipz wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:33 seedfreedom wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:29 Madkipz wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:16 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On April 24 2012 19:51 Unreliablex wrote:
On April 24 2012 16:57 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On April 24 2012 16:47 screamingpalm wrote:
Any source for this?


No

It's an extremely long pile of horseshit. At best, most of it is false and spun heavily.



Must suck to be wrong.

I just read this on one of Norways biggest newspapers internettpage, and it disgusted me like fuck.

I do not understand how this is possible, at all. The normal thing to do if someone drives in the wrong direction with the car is to tell them to turn around, not to act like inconsiderate idiots.


Oh my, I am so sorry.

They must never ever have any wrong or biased "facts".

I apologize for not trusting almighty Norway.


The fact that you can sit there, and doubt the integrity of his mother whom sat next to him when those american witnesses sat in court and basically acted out emotional trauma means a lot to me.

Comon: One person got hit on the toe as a result of a scared norwegian flooring his car in reverse, who initially had no intention of hurting anyone and was merely frightened to death by being hit in straight in the face by the leader of an increasingly angry mob.

Witness claims: He tried to kill 6 people by backing into them with his car. The mother and the kids are now emotionally damaged and the father punched the student to "disarm" him of his car.


because the mother of the accused is definitely the most un-biased person in the room and the evil Americans are only out to get foreigners...

also the guy wasnt punched in the face UNTIL HE ALMOST RAN OVER AND KILLED THE MANS WIFE AND KIDS. way to leave out a very crucial detail.


Almost is a big deal here, he had no intention of hurting anyone and nobody died. This in no way constitutes to fucking 7.5 years in jail.


your right. the almost is what stops this from being manslaughter. doesnt get the guy off the hook.


Sounds weird. Everytime you drive by a pedestrian, do you almost kill him? If you, by accident, get one wheel half atop the sidewalk, do you almost kill someone? When kids play in the street and you are driving 2 miles per hour, do you almost kill them? I mean, you are in-fact holding a weapon pretty close to their heads.

I'm scared of studying in the US now. I think I'll stay clear of the typical southern states for sure.


Most of the people in the south is incredibly nice. Some of our laws are definitely fucked up. If you're that paranoid the west coast is pretty nice. But I mean, I wouldn't worry about being arrested. So long as you don't get involved with drugs or commit a crime you really don't have much to worry about.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
April 24 2012 20:48 GMT
#340
On April 25 2012 05:45 dUTtrOACh wrote:
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On April 25 2012 05:28 nihlon wrote:
On April 25 2012 04:59 dUTtrOACh wrote:
On April 25 2012 04:52 nihlon wrote:
On April 25 2012 04:20 dUTtrOACh wrote:
How the fuck do you turn down a one-way street, going the wrong way, and ignoring all the people yelling at you probably saying "Hey, you're going the wrong way, dumbass!"? No wonder he was bullied in Oslo and chastised in America. He might be booksmart, but he's obviously life stupid.

EDIT: I was at a party where some drunken, crazy girl started driving up and down the street trying to run people over. She ended up being booted in the face and dragged away by the cops. She was to blame.

Yes if you try to run people over you are to blame. Did you have a point that ties into this story?


Yes. I made my point above the edit.

I was talking about what you wrote in edit obviously....

It had nothing to do with this case or what you wrote above (not that you had much of a point there either. You think he's dumb, good for you). Also you added "She was to blame" like someone would think otherwise. When someone tries to run over someone else that's pretty much a given...

I was only looking for some deeper meaning to the story that obviously wasn't there.


Let's just say the edit was anecdotal. End of story.

I know it was an anecdote, I was only curious as to why you shared it. But lets move on.
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