EPTWhy do people hate Random players ? - Page 4
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Zeon0
Austria2995 Posts
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Wrathsc2
United States2025 Posts
On February 23 2012 23:14 VelJa wrote: Because a lot of tournaments don't accept it ! are you serious? Thats bullshit | ||
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Xcobidoo
Sweden1871 Posts
The fact that you get "no skill cheeser"-comments is probably because you.... cheese? I don't know what league you are in but if people actually just leave the game because they see that they are facing a random player I guess you're still in the lower leagues so just accept the free wins I guess  | ||
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
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HaiFiSCH26
Bulgaria91 Posts
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IrOnKaL
United States340 Posts
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Xcobidoo
Sweden1871 Posts
On February 23 2012 23:17 Zeon0 wrote: yeah, i couldnt think of a single tournament which forbidds random. I'm pretty sure that you are not allowed to choose random but rather have to choose one before the start of the game and then use that for the remainder of the series. Opponent not knowing what race you play but you know his will just give ju an extreme advantage. | ||
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Gosi
Sweden9072 Posts
But if you are a player that roll random because you do infact enjoy playing all races or you just can't settle with one race - please tell your opponent what race you spawned instead of being the ^ douche. Or just pick a race between each matches and rotate them. | ||
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VelJa
France1109 Posts
sorry :S (But i think you have to choose a race before the game, or something like that) | ||
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Zeon0
Austria2995 Posts
for example the gsl handles it this way (with the exception of morrow) | ||
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bouhko
193 Posts
On February 23 2012 23:14 VelJa wrote: Because a lot of tournaments don't accept it ! Well the GSL does allow random since Gumiho qualified as random (GSL 3). So give us link to other tournaments. No, I think the reason we don't see pro random is not because it's forbidden, but because this would require being pro-level with all 3 races, which seems pretty hard. I think most people are pissed at random players because they have to play safe and cannot fast expo 2 times and go super-greedy builds. | ||
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getdeadplz
United States116 Posts
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00Visor
4337 Posts
On February 23 2012 23:02 Utopi wrote: Actually Gumiho is the only player ever to have been in GSL playing random. As we all know he is terran now though GuineaPig was protoss when he was in gsl, but seems to play random now. GuineaPig also played terran for a while. At least Liquidipedia states this: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GuineaPig Playing random on a professional level is total baller. I will forever love Gumiho, GuineaPig and TLO for trying. | ||
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Wroshe
Netherlands1051 Posts
On February 23 2012 23:19 Xcobidoo wrote: I'm pretty sure that you are not allowed to choose random but rather have to choose one before the start of the game and then use that for the remainder of the series. Opponent not knowing what race you play but you know his will just give ju an extreme advantage. As said before: link to the rules of a single tournament. Just one will do. I know that MLG's rule is not that you can't Random but is to make sure they don't have an ever-looping thing when you have to Race Pickers against eachother. For example MorroW plays (ZvT ZvP TvZ); what would happen if he would play against somebody that would play (TvT TvP ZvZ)? You'd have an endless amount of bullshit which is why MLG states that in such cases you have to blindly submit your race to the referee. On February 23 2012 23:20 VelJa wrote: ok guys i'm wrong sorry :S (But i think you have to choose a race before the game, or something like that) That is indeed to prevent these ever looping situations. | ||
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softan
Sweden113 Posts
If they are bm then don't answer them just block them and move on, don't let them bring you down to their level. It's their problem that they can't control their temper, if you just keep having fun then you're a winner in my book no matter how to game ends. | ||
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Zaphid
Czech Republic1860 Posts
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NasKe_
Brazil570 Posts
The problem is not only that you dont know the other race at the start and this will fuck your opening, but also because people don't play a the same level with all the races. So if you have Master Terran and Silver protoss, will be around gold/plat, and then we will never play at the same level | ||
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kenkou
United States235 Posts
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On February 23 2012 23:14 Doctorasul wrote: Random is inconvenient for the opponent, so instead of using their brain to play, they decide to whine. Lots of randoms "cheese", so what? So do lots of zergs and lots of terrans and lots of protosses. And even if randoms do "cheese" more often, why aren't you embracing practice vs cheese? Whiners will always whine, and if they have nothing to whine about they'll just make it up. Whatever advantage a random player has in the first 40 seconds of the game is lost several-fold in the next minutes because of lack of practice in that particular MU. Play the game or quit if you don't like it. Ding ding ding! This guy nailed it. I get so much grief (I've played Random since release, have 1k portrait and am still picking Random because I like the variety). Not only for being a cheeser because I'm Random (even when I don't cheese), but also for the race I happen to draw. They'll complain about Protoss, I'll explain to them that I picked Random, but they don't seem to care. Do I cheese? Sometimes. I like to think it's not any more often than most ladder warriors who pick a race. It's good to know some of those builds. I refuse to do builds, however, that are based solely on my opponents not knowing what race I am at the start (i.e. 6 pool, cannon, proxy). But I sure as shit will throw in some 2-port Banshee, blue-flame drops, DTs, etc. if I'm frustrated in a particular matchup or the guy has already griefed me about playing Random. I also always tell my opponent my race if they ask. If they don't, I assume they don't care and proceed about my business. Late-game, I really only feel at a disadvantage in TvZ against players of equal skill because I haven't gotten enough practice and my multi-tasking isn't as high as it needs to be for a low-Master Terran. Every other matchup I can go toe-to-toe in the late-game with people at a similar level. In the end, all I want is your ladder points, nomnomnom. Sometimes it will be through a 1/2-base all-in, but for the most part I prefer macro games. | ||
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Wroshe
Netherlands1051 Posts
On February 23 2012 23:24 kenkou wrote: So here's a question to you random players. If you're playing random on the ladder, and you face another random player, what type of opening build order would you do with each race? I would expect 6 Pool, Proxy 9/9 Gate or 11/11 Barracks; only to then see that your opponent has done the identical thing. :D | ||
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