EPTWhy do people hate Random players ? - Page 3
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Lorch
Germany3711 Posts
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Xanatoss
Germany539 Posts
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robih
Austria1086 Posts
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Wroshe
Netherlands1051 Posts
On February 23 2012 23:05 Nekratos wrote: Well I do occasionally play random but I believe that random players that can play well deserve great respect - knowing how to play three races requires much much more skill than just one! Having to put so much extra effort into the game, the early game advantage is something that should be overlooked imho. The problem is that when all you do when getting random is 11/11 rax, proxy 9/9 gate and 6pool then you still have only 3 matchups to learn: Terran Cheese, Protoss Cheese and Zerg Cheese. The vast majority of random games never gets to any real macro stage where knowledge of the actual matchup is even remotely relevant. Having said that though Random players that aren't no skill cheeser do deserve respect. | ||
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VelJa
France1109 Posts
When i'm VS Protoss and i am Protoss, i use this advantage by making a 4G, because my opponent would block his ramp, EZ pylon + Gate And 80% of the time, yes, i CC/Hatch/Nexus first. It's hard to be a decent players in each matchups, so we need a little advantage !! Foe example i'm sooo bad in TvZ .. it scares me :d | ||
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Torra
Norway469 Posts
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JonnyClark
United Kingdom79 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=304196 | ||
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Wroshe
Netherlands1051 Posts
On February 23 2012 23:10 JonnyClark wrote: suprised at the reactions on here. i played random for a few seasons just so i could understand each race better. i never really got a lot of BM, maybe it's because i didn't really cheese I can tell you that that is the reason. If all you'd have done though would be either 11/11Rax 6 pool or 9/9 Proxy gate then you would have been getting death/rape threats every single game. | ||
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bouhko
193 Posts
On February 23 2012 23:08 Full.tilt wrote: Some people see playing random as offering an unfair advantage at the start of the game. Which is completely understandable. Well, the random player gets an advantage at the start but then he's probably disadvantaged as the game moves since it's unlikely he'll be as skilled as the opponent with all three races. I mean, random is an option the game gives you. Just use it to your advantage. Now, if random was giving an unfair advantage, I'm sure we'd see pro random, but it doesn't seem to be the case. | ||
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bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
On February 23 2012 23:10 JonnyClark wrote: suprised at the reactions on here. i played random for a few seasons just so i could understand each race better. i never really got a lot of BM, maybe it's because i didn't really cheese I play random now for about 2 1/2 seasons and there were quite some funny stories. My favorite: Game begins. Me:"Good luck and have fun buddy" <instert name> has left the game. edit: he started mining+splitting his workers :D | ||
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Zeon0
Austria2995 Posts
people dont like cheesing, people flame random players | ||
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ScaryOlive
Canada121 Posts
When You play against a random player, it should not show random in the loading but the race you will be playing in the game so the game start with both player on the same level. Random is not a race, it's the randomnisation of the race you play. To be fair, another solution would be that the Random player dosent see your race when the game is loading, but that would be ridiculous... | ||
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Doctorasul
Romania1145 Posts
Whatever advantage a random player has in the first 40 seconds of the game is lost several-fold in the next minutes because of lack of practice in that particular MU. Play the game or quit if you don't like it. | ||
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VelJa
France1109 Posts
On February 23 2012 23:12 bouhko wrote: [...] I'm sure we'd see pro random, but it doesn't seem to be the case. Because a lot of tournaments don't accept it ! | ||
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Wroshe
Netherlands1051 Posts
On February 23 2012 23:13 ScaryOlive wrote: I really don't understand why the random player is hidden. When You play against a random player, it should not show random in the loading but the race you will be playing in the game so the game start with both player on the same level. Random is not a race, it's the randomnisation of the race you play. To be fair, another solution would be that the Random player dosent see your race when the game is loading, but that would be ridiculous... I would actually like that more then the current situation. The ideal situation would be however to see "Random: Zerg. He will 6pool you." in 99.99% of the cases that would be correct and I can just start with my Forge first.  | ||
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
i don't like random players who play like that either tbh and if i meet a random player who plays straight up i usually win because they are almost never as good with their race as i am with mine i used to play random as well since i had played all 3 races (250 wins with each) but i really hated the way random feels because you can never decied what strategy you will play before a game so i eventually settled on zerg and now i hate my decision because i always lose to toss xD | ||
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Wroshe
Netherlands1051 Posts
On February 23 2012 23:14 VelJa wrote: Because a lot of tournaments don't accept it ! Can you name a single one? (with a link to the rules) I do know that some tournaments at the time didn't allow racepicking but that also seems to have faded away. | ||
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Wrathsc2
United States2025 Posts
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bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
On February 23 2012 23:13 ScaryOlive wrote: I really don't understand why the random player is hidden. When You play against a random player, it should not show random in the loading but the race you will be playing in the game so the game start with both player on the same level. Random is not a race, it's the randomnisation of the race you play. To be fair, another solution would be that the Random player dosent see your race when the game is loading, but that would be ridiculous... Why is that? People try to equal things out by saying the random player has an advantage because the enemy needs to scout. But on the other hand you ppl ignore the fact that the player needs to play every race somewhat decent. And I'm not talking about randoming in <gold league. You argue they don't start on the same level with the hidden race thingy? I argue that they won't when you would show the race. edit: On February 23 2012 23:15 sVnteen wrote: the problem with most random players is that they can't actually play any of the races properly so they cheese and because they are random it is harder to prepare for it (6 pool or 2 rax or proxy gates) This is so funny ... you talk about what leagues? | ||
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