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Correct Mr. Chae Statement - Page 23
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legaton
France1763 Posts
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GodZo
Italy224 Posts
On December 15 2011 05:05 Moa wrote: He actually offended a lot of people. Have you seen what the Koreans are saying about this. I disagree with them. In that specific situation, I prefer a funny game, than a fake game. And, it was a very funny game, this is part of a show. | ||
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duckyR
United States93 Posts
On December 15 2011 05:08 hypercube wrote: Really? Why not just ask to take their shoes off? If you invited me to a party I'd be worried I might be kicked out for whatever. Unless you'd have a really amazing party I might just pass just to be on the safe side. Ahaha true true, I agree, should have informed him about the "shoes" in the first place. | ||
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ackbar
United States94 Posts
On December 15 2011 05:08 hypercube wrote: Really? Why not just ask to take their shoes off? Because if you KNOW you are supposed to take your shoes off, you are probably leaving them on just to be a dick. | ||
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Focuspants
Canada780 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:13 Jhax[IRE] wrote: Can't believe more than 1 thread has been made about this whole Naniwa thing. He didn't wanna play the game but he was forced to and as a result he just threw it to get it over with, That's what 99% of human beings do when they are forced to do something they really don't want to do, the bare minimum. Nestea is in the 1%!!!! We should Occupy his booth. | ||
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
If I do that kind of shit at my job, I get fired. If you don't think esports is going to value professionalism moving forward, you have another thing coming. The sooner we move out of our "we're not like other sports! it's the wild west weeeeee!" attitude, the better. I applaud Chae for having the guts to deliver a well deserved message to someone who needs to work on his character. His work ethic and ability are outstanding -- now let's see him put some time into building some professional credibility and class. Enter Nani apologists in 3..2..1.. -- GO! | ||
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On December 15 2011 05:06 HandleTaken wrote: I'm sure Zagreb will get fined and that's exactly what should have happened to Naniwa. Make him pay back his Blizzard cup prize money in a fine (since GOM thinks Naniwa has shown unsportsmanlike behavior). Throwing Naniwa out of next GSL-season is just overdoing it. Unless the fine is an substantional amount it won't actually archive anything. This kinda suspension at least has a chance to archive it's goal wihich is teaching Naniwa a lesson. | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On December 15 2011 05:07 PHILtheTANK wrote: You are wrong... Gom owes a lot of people something here. Gom owes Naniwa treatment deserving of a programer. Had any other tournament(imagine NASL) forced a progamer who had just poured his heart and soul into 3 heartwrenching losses, to play a meaningless game on stage, they would have gotten so much shit the tables would be completely turned on this discussion. Gom owes the viewers, you know those of us who pay fucking 200 dollars a year to watch and support their tournament, meaningful games instead of putting THAT up on stage. Gom owes MLG an adherence to their fucking contract and to not de-legitamize their entire tournament with this crap. When a korean player takes the GUARANTEED SEED from MLG its a GUARANTEED SEED. When Naniwa wins the GUARANTEED SEED from MLG, and then does something stupid(even when GOM is as much to blame) its no longer a GUARANTEED SEED and is now a conditional invite. You're right, gom does owe people something. They owe it to the people to make the word progamer matter and actually mean something and hold it up to a certain standard.. They owe it to the people that being respectful and honourable still has meaning in today's society. With their removal of naniwa's code s invite, they achieved that for me. Mad respect to gom for doing that because they knew they would receive backlash from the foreigner community, but still had the guts to stand by their principles. For that I applaud them and give them a GG! | ||
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K_Dilkington
Sweden449 Posts
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careohx
263 Posts
On December 15 2011 05:11 Canucklehead wrote: You're right, gom does owe people something. They owe it to the people to make the word progamer matter and actually mean something and hold it up to a certain standard.. They owe it to people that being respectful and honourable still has meaning in today's society. With their removal of naniwa's code s invite, they achieved that for me. You are the type of person that likes to be lied to rather than know the truth? He didnt break any rules all that matters. | ||
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GeorgeForeman
United States1746 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:13 Jhax[IRE] wrote: Can't believe more than 1 thread has been made about this whole Naniwa thing. He didn't wanna play the game but he was forced to and as a result he just threw it to get it over with, That's what 99% of human beings do when they are forced to do something they really don't want to do, the bare minimum. No, it's not. At least, not if it's their job. If their job is to play a game, they play the game. They may half-ass it, but they don't no-ass it. | ||
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duckyR
United States93 Posts
On December 15 2011 05:11 ackbar wrote: Because if you KNOW you are supposed to take your shoes off, you are probably leaving them on just to be a dick. I agree with both of you responding to my post, but then again it's just assuming Naniwa has been to many asian "homes". | ||
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rd
United States2586 Posts
On December 15 2011 05:11 Canucklehead wrote: You're right, gom does owe people something. They owe it to the people to make the word progamer matter and actually mean something and hold it up to a certain standard.. They owe it to people that being respectful and honourable still has meaning in today's society. With their removal of naniwa's code s invite, they achieved that for me. You forgot about the part where being a pro gamer doesn't mean anything about playing to win (the tournament) or making money, but driving up their viewer count with entertainment. That's what Mr. Chae thinks a pro-gamer is: A buff wrestler ready to dance on TV to make viewers happy. If you aren't willing to bullshit the audience with a 4 gate to appear like you give the slightest of fucks in a match you have no incentive to win and GOM TV has ALL of the incentive to create more content from, well then you're dishonorable and not even a pro gamer. | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On December 15 2011 05:11 ackbar wrote: Because if you KNOW you are supposed to take your shoes off, you are probably leaving them on just to be a dick. Eh no that's not a safe assumption. Some countries all people are walking indoors with shoes. Are you just gonna throw them out without even bothering to check if they don't realize they have insulted you? That's weird. | ||
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-y0shi-
Germany994 Posts
On December 15 2011 05:09 diophan wrote: The tournament was round robin, presumably to let the viewers see all these awesome players play each other. What is GOM supposed to do, "sorry viewers who paid $10 to see a tournament that's less than a week long, Nani doesn't feel like playing anymore"? "Sorry were not going to play a match when both players obviously cant deliver their a game and its a big waste of time, instead we will move on to the games that matter" | ||
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TORTOISE
United States515 Posts
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Affi
Sweden1 Post
On December 15 2011 03:04 NHY wrote: "We don't believe that winning games and getting prizes make you a pro-gamer. We think that pro-gaming as a vocation should be about gamers competing for the victory, for the audience so they would get excited, and in all that, players job is to compete for the victory through that. We gave the seed to Quantic Gaming's protoss pro-gamer NaNiwa, not to Johan Lucchesi from Sweden, who plays the game well." loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool No that makes them entertainers. Pro-gamers win games and money. Entertainers put on a show. And you make more money from entertainers then you do from pro-gamers. | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
On December 15 2011 05:01 Cascade wrote: thanks namkung. quoted for visibility, plz OP, update. If you agree on the translation of course... Check my response here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=294943¤tpage=21#408 It's a couple posts above your post that I am quoting. | ||
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hXc Chris
United States25 Posts
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Eury
Sweden1126 Posts
On December 15 2011 05:14 K_Dilkington wrote: Mr Chae runs the GSL as some sort of gangster boss, ruling out completely arbitrary punishments left and right. Please stop calling him Mr. He doesn't deserve that respect. | ||
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