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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people. Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned! - Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM - Comparing people to Hitler - Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum. | ||
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Clearout
Norway1060 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:18 Gaxton wrote: To all the upset boycott/petition/"occupy Gomtv" people out there, see you back in the GSL LR threards next week. Won't see me! | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
That is ridiculous. There's an element of cultural difference in this that GOM isn't taking into account. Naniwa will feel really bad now even though he didn't really do much wrong. Still I'm gonna be honest I'm still going to watch GSL. This doesn't make much difference really there's plenty of good players worth watching. | ||
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ander
Canada403 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:16 MildSeven wrote: The accusation is not true on Naniwa, but it doesn't matter, it's to teach him a lesson on life really. When a country hosts the Olympic, even if it is a global event, the host country expects the tourists and participants from other countries to foremost respect their culture, you don't go to Athens Olympics to piss on the greek statue (extreme example). No one asked Naniwa to honour kill or disrespect women like Islamic fundamentalists, all is asked from Naniwa and all other Esports player is some reverence for the prestige of the game that Korean culture highly values. This is the right punishment, it is a mild punishment for mild offense. Next time Naniwa will smarten up, enough with his introverted rebel " i can do whatever i want" attitude, that's just not how society works. Those are absolutely not comparable. There was no way of knowing that what he did was not acceptable unless he was acutely aware of the intricacies of Korean culture. It was not explicitly stated in the rules, and it would have been fairly unreasonable from his standpoint that acting as he did would result in such serious backlash. He was in no way "pissing on a greek statue"; that's completely ridiculous. | ||
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archonOOid
1983 Posts
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lknockoutl
Italy15 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:40 dafunk wrote: Deserved. And it will prevent anyone from doing it in the future. I totally agree with you. there's people who paid for those games. | ||
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Gantritor
Italy112 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:00 johanreidel wrote: I guess this is a cultural thing where appearance trumps honesty, to bad Naniwa comes from a culture where it's the reversed. Remember kids, it's all about saving face and keeping up appearances! Honesty is for losers... Yeah, only in Sweden people learn to behave properly. That's what you are saying. This is racist as hell. European should learn a lot of things from other culture, such as the awesome korean culture, and stop thinking that they are the best in the world and who think different is wrong. | ||
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dala
Sweden477 Posts
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Nate.F
918 Posts
doubt it <3 | ||
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Packawana
United States1081 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:17 Klogbert wrote: You must not really watch sports then...the Indianapolis Colts certainly aren't giving their all. The Chicago Cubs at the end of every year don't even play their stars. There's a difference though. You don't actually have those players going out and saying "I gave up my match because of blah blah blah." If Naniwa had decided not to say that, things might have been different. The problem is that he affirmed he threw away the match. And letting that slide insults the players that worked hard to get there, the viewers that wanted to see that match, the tournament that expects you to hold it, etc. etc. etc. | ||
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zuperketla
Norway212 Posts
of course not - but GOM is responding to it by going to a level much lower than Naniwas - and that is stupid :< | ||
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tymt
Sweden293 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:14 MooMooMugi wrote: Pro gamers aren't 100% always right. Also, don't you think HuK is being a little biased since Naniwa is part of his Protoss brethren? Yes they play the same race, that means HuK would follow Nani wherever he went! | ||
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Zubrowka
Germany42 Posts
We pay to see games on the highest lvl, and he makes that crap..... Esports are Sports and that wasnt sportsmanlike.....just fail. | ||
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Jakkerr
Netherlands2549 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:17 Tobberoth wrote: What about "korean tournament" do you connect to "the world"? Make sense. The GLOBAL Star league part. ah well we still call it the GSL because for some reason they chose that name. for 2012 they should really change it to KSL. | ||
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valaki
Hungary2476 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:15 klaxen wrote: Everyone is done with GSL. I guess you don't like watching the best players. I do like that. Naniwa isn't one of them. | ||
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MasterBlasterCaster
United States568 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:19 iamke55 wrote: Not sending your best players in a team sport is the equivalent in SC2 of trying out a new build that isn't as refined as your old one. No it isn't. | ||
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baoluvboa
743 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:19 Niyanyo wrote: During the NASL Season 1 Ensnare did not show to a match vs SjoW essentially forfeiting the match. It was not the only instance of the tournament in which players forfeited the game. So Korean players can just not play matches that matter in foreign tournaments, but if a foreign sticks to the rules, loses the game, ggs after it, but its percieived as a forfeit by everyone he should be punished? You do realize more foreigners didnt play NASL matches right? | ||
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hmsrenown
Canada1263 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:41 Pikarya wrote: learn new cheese strats User was warned for this post I'd just love to point out how true this statement is...imagine he mothership rushed, no one would've been pissed off. And oh yes, if anyone want to invoke parallel from real sports, ask any Indianapolis Colts fans whether if they actually want to see Dan Orlovsky playing like an All-Pro for the three remaining games this year. | ||
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Nate.F
918 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:19 archonOOid wrote: I feel like the rule naniwa broke against is very vague and so it's up to GSL to determine whether he broke it or not. It feels like GOMtv/GSL has some kind of grudge against naniwa because you can win a probe rush if you opponent goes for a 6 pool. Naniwa clearly tried to out smart neastea but he stuck with a standard build. rules have to be vague or people will find loopholes to get around it -_- | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
Good job GomTV. | ||
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JerKy
Korea (South)3013 Posts
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