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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people.

Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned!
- Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM
- Comparing people to Hitler
- Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum.
Baz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom289 Posts
December 14 2011 11:20 GMT
#1381
The people blaming GOM are hilarious. If Fifa didn't ban a team for throwing a game in the world cup when they were already out, there would be worldwide uproar. For the integrity of GOM and Esports, this was the correct decision.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46170 Posts
December 14 2011 11:20 GMT
#1382
On December 14 2011 20:19 Nizaris wrote:
What exactly happened ? i read like 10pages and i still don't know.. sry


1. They didn't permanently ban him, but revoked his Code S spot and gave it to Sen.

2. They said it was because he offended the audience by throwing away a (meaningless) game against Nestea at the recent Blizzard Cup, and that breaks a rule. With the amount of BM that already exists in the GSL matches inside the game and out (with celebrations), that rule that Naniwa got hit by is bullshit.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Nate.F
Profile Joined April 2011
918 Posts
December 14 2011 11:20 GMT
#1383
On December 14 2011 20:20 JerKy wrote:
Hmm, I can see what the point of view of everyone is (on both sides), but I think this is perhaps overkill (especially with IdrA and Sen coming in)

theres more than two sides
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
December 14 2011 11:21 GMT
#1384
On December 14 2011 20:20 Zubrowka wrote:
Well done by GSL.

We pay to see games on the highest lvl, and he makes that crap.....
Esports are Sports and that wasnt sportsmanlike.....just fail.


Esports are sports?
No, i'm sorry people I know you all want it to be.
But just no.
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
December 14 2011 11:21 GMT
#1385
On December 14 2011 20:19 Zzoram wrote:
I actually stayed up specifically to see Naniwa vs Nestea. I was pretty pissed he didn't play it.


Me too but its way too harsh to take his Code S spot for this Gom made a huge blunder..
Never GG MKP | IdrA
Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
December 14 2011 11:21 GMT
#1386
On December 14 2011 20:17 parkin wrote:
Messed up decision.

HuK mothership rushes and looses on purpose but is treated like a superhero.

Naniwa makes a probe rush and looses on purpose but gets revoked by biased judges.

Its pathetic and i hope more people boycott GSL.


totally forgot about this!!

there are so many other examples of pretty obvious game throwing too

why pick on nani? the only difference is that his match is one of the few that actually MEAN NOTHING
http://sc2ranks.com/us/941824/Roxy - Masters Protoss: "Respect my authoritai"
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
December 14 2011 11:21 GMT
#1387
On December 14 2011 20:18 ptrpb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 20:17 Tobberoth wrote:
On December 14 2011 20:16 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
So we are going to let koreans rule the rest of the world now?

What about "korean tournament" do you connect to "the world"? Make sense.

Global StarLeage

It's just a name. Just like, you know, NASL doesn't stick to players from North America? It's still a tournament in Korea, run by a Korean company, with almost nothing but korean players. If you're in rome, act like the romans.
elKaDor
Profile Joined April 2009
Sweden376 Posts
December 14 2011 11:21 GMT
#1388
haha love these trains that are coming all the time, when naniwa was "kicked" from col everyone hated him, when his interview were out everyone loved him, and now everyone hates him again.

Noone here has their own opinion?

IMO, i think every sport needs a dark dog, and IdrA and Naniwa are those. whats e-sports without drama? -_-v
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
December 14 2011 11:21 GMT
#1389
Totally fine by GOM. They have to draw a line somewhere.They want people to perform their best when they participate in their tournaments and this will ensure no one will try to throw more childish tantrums in the future.

And it has nothing to do with Naniwa as a person. Coca and Choya also got smacked down hard for silly stuff.
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
MasterBlasterCaster
Profile Joined October 2011
United States568 Posts
December 14 2011 11:21 GMT
#1390
On December 14 2011 20:19 Packawana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 20:17 Klogbert wrote:
On December 14 2011 20:16 Packawana wrote:
On December 14 2011 20:13 Klogbert wrote:
On December 14 2011 20:12 Eviscerador wrote:
On December 14 2011 20:04 NovaTheFeared wrote:
Forfeiting the match would be terrible sportsmanship. Probe rushing is even below that. It's a straight FU to the fans, opponent, and GOM. I'm glad GOM took the issue of professionalism seriously. Someone has to, and it's definitely not Naniwa.

Droping mules or building CC on your defeated enemy base is not? For me that is the middle finger equivalent in videogames.

Double standards everywhere...


Holy crap didn't even think about this...wow does this makes GOM look like hypocrites. I'm officially done with GSL...still.


But were those games actually played out?

This is the main thing, this wasn't a form of BM that was meant to insult the opponent in the way dropping mules is. This is BM in the way that insults the tournament and insults the viewers.

If you play for any team or any sport, you are expected to give your all no matter what your standing is, no matter how far down or far up you are. When it becomes blatantly obvious that you're not playing to win (and reaffirm that post-match), then you are not living to the professionalism that is supposed to be integral in any competition.


You must not really watch sports then...the Indianapolis Colts certainly aren't giving their all. The Chicago Cubs at the end of every year don't even play their stars.


There's a difference though. You don't actually have those players going out and saying "I gave up my match because of blah blah blah." If Naniwa had decided not to say that, things might have been different

Only because of people like you that just have to have that lip service...
baoluvboa
Profile Joined December 2010
743 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 11:21:45
December 14 2011 11:21 GMT
#1391
On December 14 2011 20:20 hmsrenown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:41 Pikarya wrote:
On December 14 2011 18:41 eYeball wrote:
I wonder what Naniwa will do in response to this, will he stay and practice till February or when GSL #2 is and then try the Code A Qualifiers?


learn new cheese strats

User was warned for this post

I'd just love to point out how true this statement is...imagine he mothership rushed, no one would've been pissed off.


Because it would have been entertaining for the audience. What he did was nothing of the sort and no he did not have the intent to entertain if somehow you find 6 probes rush entertaining.
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
December 14 2011 11:21 GMT
#1392
Just noticed naniwa's team changes. He changes teams even more than Artosis changing his favorite Protoss player.

12.2011-present Quantic
09.2011-12.2011 compLexity
01.2011-09.2011 Dignitas
11.2010-01.2011 Team Empire
11.2010-11.2010 Power Gaming
08.2010-11.2010 MyM
05.2010-08.2010 SG
... -05.2010 mTw

Its just his persona. Good at the game but hard to deal with no wonder teams just boot him out.
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6119 Posts
December 14 2011 11:21 GMT
#1393
Wow Artosis still on about mech.

Mech is possible in TvT, but impossible in TvP...
#1 Terran hater
msnger
Profile Joined September 2010
United States59 Posts
December 14 2011 11:21 GMT
#1394
Well deserved. bye bye Naniwa.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46170 Posts
December 14 2011 11:21 GMT
#1395
On December 14 2011 20:19 dala wrote:
GOM probably thinks that IdrA will draw a larger North American crowd...


You mean Sen?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 11:22:08
December 14 2011 11:21 GMT
#1396
On December 14 2011 20:12 tetrismaan wrote:
Damn if I was one of the foreigner progamers in Korea, or some of the other eSport celebrities, I would boycut GOMtv and tell everyone to do so because this is really hurting eSports.

Even HuK says on twitter:

LorangerChris Chris Loranger
"As much as everyone likes to overuse "killing esports", noone actually uses in the example when it actually is. Things like this kil esports"


From a player that went mothership after it was scouted in a series he still could have won because his spirit had been crushed. Consensus from the pro community was that he intentionally threw that, and he pretty much said the same.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
JohnStorm
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada74 Posts
December 14 2011 11:21 GMT
#1397
What a joke! Definitely not giving another dollar to GOM until they reverse this. The way I see it, he rightfully won that spot from MLG.
-
Alkro
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden88 Posts
December 14 2011 11:21 GMT
#1398
On December 14 2011 20:20 Zubrowka wrote:
Well done by GSL.

We pay to see games on the highest lvl, and he makes that crap.....
Esports are Sports and that wasnt sportsmanlike.....just fail.


I guess you haven't seen alot of sport! Games that mean nothing are constantly "thrown" in professional sports and no one really cares about it. Does it really matter how you throw the game? In my eyes Naniwa was just honest instead of pretending to play a decent game.
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
December 14 2011 11:21 GMT
#1399
On December 14 2011 20:20 baoluvboa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 20:19 Niyanyo wrote:
During the NASL Season 1 Ensnare did not show to a match vs SjoW essentially forfeiting the match. It was not the only instance of the tournament in which players forfeited the game. So Korean players can just not play matches that matter in foreign tournaments, but if a foreign sticks to the rules, loses the game, ggs after it, but its percieived as a forfeit by everyone he should be punished?


You do realize more foreigners didnt play NASL matches right?


But those foreigners got banned for it I believe? I'm not sure :D
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
December 14 2011 11:21 GMT
#1400
On December 14 2011 20:20 valaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 20:15 klaxen wrote:
Everyone is done with GSL. I guess you don't like watching the best players.


I do like that. Naniwa isn't one of them.

He is. He got many very solid titles to his name and put up really good games in the Blizzard Cup. I don't even know where to start.
- ಠ_ಠ - | disinfect wrote: AHAHHAHAHA 2DG FUCK ME ALREADY.
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