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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people.

Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned!
- Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM
- Comparing people to Hitler
- Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum.
Laids
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom596 Posts
December 14 2011 16:13 GMT
#4161
The whole Naniwa situation was absurd to begin with, it has now reached critical levels of stupid.
Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
December 14 2011 16:13 GMT
#4162
Banning a player because he offends you personally is very subjective, not very professional.
dolvlo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States99 Posts
December 14 2011 16:13 GMT
#4163
On December 15 2011 01:11 Skyreaper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 00:05 NHY wrote:
On December 14 2011 23:56 anomalopidae wrote:
On December 14 2011 23:53 ReboundEU wrote:
By Slasher@tweeter
Providence did not award Naniwa a Code S spot, only the Blizzard Cup. He was going to be given Code S, that which was revoked. Not as bad.

http://twitter.com/#!/Slasher/status/146961938084134912


I do not understand this
The agreement clearly states that he should be awarded Code S spot, it says so even on GOM page
http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors3/news/65291

Pro Circuit Players Competing in the GSL

At MLG Columbus, the Top 3 non-Korean finishers will each be placed into GSL Code A.
At every 2011 Pro Circuit Live Competition after MLG Columbus, GSL placement will occur as follows:

Code S status will be awarded to the highest placing player, regardless of country of origin, who doesn't already have Code S status.

Code A status will be awarded to the next 3 highest placing non-Korean players.

If Code S status is awarded to a Korean player, Code A status also will be awarded to the 4th highest placing non-Korean player.

All travel and accommodation expenses for these players will be provided by the GSL.


Keep reading and you'll find this

GSL Pro Players Competing on the MLG Pro Circuit

-MLG will invite four Korean pro players to each Pro Circuit Live Competition.
-These players will be placed directly into the Championship Pools, one into each Pool.
-Their placement in the Pools will be determined by their GSL rank.
-All travel and accomodation expenses for these players will be provided by MLG.
-For MLG Columbus, we will also be inviting a player from the CSN tournament, currently in progress. This player will be seeded into the Open Bracket, and their travel and accomodation expenses will be covered by CSN.


Did that also happen in Providence? No. So there was no MLG-GSL exchange in Providence.

How can so many people miss this? You'd know just from reading it that it is impossible to apply it to providence since there are no championship pools,


By @Ethan_Ahn

Show nested quote +
가장 중요한 건.. NaNiwa는 GSL 예선을 통해 코드A에 출전할 수 있습니다. #SC2 #GSL

Translation : The important thing is.. NaNiwa can still participate in a Code A through GSL preliminary.

Show nested quote +
To clarify, NaNiwa was one of those who were considered to earn Code S seeds, but it was IdrA and Sen who is coming for #GSL Jan.


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@Nic_Millar No baned. it's Misunderstanding! NaNi is Missed the opportunity to Code S.


Why people keep saying that GOM made harsh decision about what NaNiwa had done? First of all, MLG has nothing to do with NaNiwa being awarded Code S seed. Blizzard Cup had given Nani an opportunity to earn Code S seed, then sponsor decided not to because of what he did in his game. Besides NaNiwa still can participate Code A in GSL by getting through preliminary. It wasn't right thing for GomTV to bend the rule to suit NaNiwa's situation (since Nani didn't technically break the rule), that's not the point here. GomTV is trying their best to make foreigners participate in GSL and revise the format so that the result of the game is mostly based on skill rather than luck. (There are already plan for 2012 GSL with revised format which you can check at here <- no english version yet)

srry about my bad english.


So you're basically saying that MLG lied to us. Got it.
MasterKush
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom568 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 16:15:35
December 14 2011 16:13 GMT
#4164
On December 15 2011 01:11 dolvlo wrote:
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On December 15 2011 01:06 Shinta) wrote:
On December 15 2011 01:00 SpurvL wrote:
I think GSL made an example out of him, I really think they should have gave him an warning, since it was kind of a letdown, even tho the game didn't matter in the tournament a "Naniwa vs NesTea" is (for me at least) very interesting.. anyway, I think they where too harsh and my reason to buy a ticket went out the window faster than Naniwa pulls his probes

Honestly, as blind as you might be to it, if GOM didn't punish NaNiWa for his actions, then most Korean pro gamers, and most Korean fans would have trampled all over GOM with so much criticism that GOM would have had to have come out with a public apology and then punished NaNiWa later, or make super strict rules about match throwing.

Just because you're an idiot and can't realize the justifications GOM has for doing this, you and the other senseless idiots who will protest against GOM are nothing compared to the protests that would have happened and actually made a huge impact against GOM if GOM hadn't punished NaNiWa.


So basically what you're saying is that we should be saying "Fuck Koreans" and not "Fuck GOM"? That seems ridiculous.


No. You should be saying "Fuck Naniwa".

Just to add, I hope you people defending him realise that if every progamer acted like this, we wouldn't even have the SC2 scene we have now. Respect the tournament format, respect the players, respect the game. That's all we want to see, not people who are paid professionals acting like children.
"Because, maybe, unlike what every whining kid on the internet thinks, terran actually isn't the easiest race? Shocking, I know." - Liquid`Jinro
Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
December 14 2011 16:13 GMT
#4165
On December 15 2011 01:12 SnoLys wrote:
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On December 15 2011 00:59 Derez wrote:
Can the thread title be renamed?

Seeing how Slasher (MLG representative and all) has stated that Nani wasn't actually awarded a code S slot for his providence performance, a more accurate title would be 'GomTV decides not to invite Naniwa to Code S January'.


Is GOM trying to save face or did all this people got it wrong?

From MLG own site news:

http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/news/naniwas-ascension
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Ultimately he dropped the following four games, and despite not being crowned champion, Naniwa has presented one of the most captivating weeks imaginable, both in and out of the game. In the last week, Naniwa has rage quit of of a GSL match, flown half-way around the world, defeated the two most successful Korean Starcraft 2 players back-to-back, sparked a rivalry with Nestea, been the center of controversy in a rematch against Nestea, let a National Championship slip through his fingers and earned a seat in Code S.


http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/news/going-out-with-a-bang-mlg-providence-starcraft-2-recap
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Over the last few months, Naniwa has been training hard over in Korea to take his game to the next level, and his hard work appeared to pay off in Providence. The 2nd Place finish was good enough to earn him a Code S spot, so keep an eye on this MLG Champion as he goes toe-to-toe with the world's best during the offseason.


http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/top-5-stories-from-mlg-providence
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Naniwa, however, stayed focused on his goal. Amidst swirls of tabloid drama and misguided quotes, Naniwa kept his concentration on the task at hand. When his turn to enter the bracket finally rolled around, the Swedish Protoss defeated Nestea for the second time that weekend, and followed the feat with wins over Huk and DongRaeGu. In the end Naniwa failed to seal the deal as he lost four straight games against Leenock in the Grand Finals, but appeared to be a man with a renewed determination and a refined playstyle. With the pedigree Naniwa displayed over the weekend, it's hard not to be excited about Naniwa's 2012 prospects in Code S and at Major League Gaming Events.


http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mlg-and-the-gsl-create-groundbreaking-player-exchange-program
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Pro Circuit Players Competing in the GSL

At MLG Columbus, the Top 3 non-Korean finishers will each be placed into GSL Code A.
At every 2011 Pro Circuit Live Competition after MLG Columbus, GSL placement will occur as follows:
Code S status will be awarded to the highest placing player, within the Top 3, regardless of country of origin, who does not already have Code S status.

Code S status will not be awarded if all of the players placing 1st-3rd already have Code S Status.
Code A status will be awarded to the next three highest placing non-Korean players.
If Code S status is awarded to a Korean player, or not awarded at all, Code A status also will be awarded to the 4th highest placing non-Korean player.


From Complexity, his team at the time: http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/3270/
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Be sure to watch the GSL's Code S tournament as Naniwa secured himself a spot thanks to the MLG/GSL exchange program.


http://esfiworld.com/sc2/news/naniwa-secures-top-3-finish-victory-over-huk
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Naniwa was able to secure a huge victory and guarantee at least a Top 3 finish in Providence. That placement will gives him a chance to secure Code S and continues the run of world class players that Naniwa has defeated over the course of the championship weekend in Providence.


http://myeg.net/team/surprises-and-sadness-mlg-providence-day-3/
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NaNiwa has finally reestablished himself firmly as one of the world’s top Protoss – and earned himself a Code S spot to boot.



Fantastic quotes. Someone go be a hardass journalist and ask Slasher some of his own questions.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
December 14 2011 16:13 GMT
#4166
On December 15 2011 01:09 MorroW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 01:04 HolydaKing wrote:
On December 15 2011 01:00 MorroW wrote:
why cant just gsl apologize and be the bigger man here and admit their faults for even having the game played rather than punishing naniwa to play a game that didnt matter

if a game doesnt matter, ask the players if they want or dont want to play the game, if not, then give w.o

its retarded and naniwa is the one taking the blow here for something that wasnt his fault

so it would have gone in your mind to play like naniwa? in one of the most prestigious tournaments? just look like how extremely bored he looks. so disrespectful, while he could have gained so much respect.
i suppose you have seen the video or even the live game, but go here if you haven't
www.fomos.kr/gnuboard4/bbs/board.php?bo_table=talk_gossip&wr_id=394130

you dont ban a player for not having his hands on his keyboard while playing, if that was the case sjow wouldnt be a progamer anymore (:D)

also you dont ban someone for looking bored

this is a proffecional sports and players play by the rules of the tournament. naniwa did not break any rules. what is there left to say?

Morrow why are you always right?
i6ly
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany9 Posts
December 14 2011 16:13 GMT
#4167
well, that´s it for me and gsl. wanted the monthly subscription, but this is just plain wrong.
Fin de siècle
Deleted User 108965
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
December 14 2011 16:13 GMT
#4168
On December 15 2011 01:13 dolvlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 01:11 Skyreaper wrote:
On December 15 2011 00:05 NHY wrote:
On December 14 2011 23:56 anomalopidae wrote:
On December 14 2011 23:53 ReboundEU wrote:
By Slasher@tweeter
Providence did not award Naniwa a Code S spot, only the Blizzard Cup. He was going to be given Code S, that which was revoked. Not as bad.

http://twitter.com/#!/Slasher/status/146961938084134912


I do not understand this
The agreement clearly states that he should be awarded Code S spot, it says so even on GOM page
http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors3/news/65291

Pro Circuit Players Competing in the GSL

At MLG Columbus, the Top 3 non-Korean finishers will each be placed into GSL Code A.
At every 2011 Pro Circuit Live Competition after MLG Columbus, GSL placement will occur as follows:

Code S status will be awarded to the highest placing player, regardless of country of origin, who doesn't already have Code S status.

Code A status will be awarded to the next 3 highest placing non-Korean players.

If Code S status is awarded to a Korean player, Code A status also will be awarded to the 4th highest placing non-Korean player.

All travel and accommodation expenses for these players will be provided by the GSL.


Keep reading and you'll find this

GSL Pro Players Competing on the MLG Pro Circuit

-MLG will invite four Korean pro players to each Pro Circuit Live Competition.
-These players will be placed directly into the Championship Pools, one into each Pool.
-Their placement in the Pools will be determined by their GSL rank.
-All travel and accomodation expenses for these players will be provided by MLG.
-For MLG Columbus, we will also be inviting a player from the CSN tournament, currently in progress. This player will be seeded into the Open Bracket, and their travel and accomodation expenses will be covered by CSN.


Did that also happen in Providence? No. So there was no MLG-GSL exchange in Providence.

How can so many people miss this? You'd know just from reading it that it is impossible to apply it to providence since there are no championship pools,


By @Ethan_Ahn

가장 중요한 건.. NaNiwa는 GSL 예선을 통해 코드A에 출전할 수 있습니다. #SC2 #GSL

Translation : The important thing is.. NaNiwa can still participate in a Code A through GSL preliminary.

To clarify, NaNiwa was one of those who were considered to earn Code S seeds, but it was IdrA and Sen who is coming for #GSL Jan.


@Nic_Millar No baned. it's Misunderstanding! NaNi is Missed the opportunity to Code S.


Why people keep saying that GOM made harsh decision about what NaNiwa had done? First of all, MLG has nothing to do with NaNiwa being awarded Code S seed. Blizzard Cup had given Nani an opportunity to earn Code S seed, then sponsor decided not to because of what he did in his game. Besides NaNiwa still can participate Code A in GSL by getting through preliminary. It wasn't right thing for GomTV to bend the rule to suit NaNiwa's situation (since Nani didn't technically break the rule), that's not the point here. GomTV is trying their best to make foreigners participate in GSL and revise the format so that the result of the game is mostly based on skill rather than luck. (There are already plan for 2012 GSL with revised format which you can check at here <- no english version yet)

srry about my bad english.


So you're basically saying that MLG lied to us. Got it.

you think mlg had anything to do with this decision?
Disciple....Top 3 control in Clarion County
BioGenie
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore10 Posts
December 14 2011 16:13 GMT
#4169
On December 15 2011 01:04 dawnstone wrote:
Show nested quote +
- During a match, a player shall not offend the opponent or audience with abusive behaviours

This is my first post on TL but that dosent mean i have not followed the SC2 scene since the beginning. I have been a lurker on TL since the SC2 beta and have followed every GSL tournament, MLG, DH and so on. The problem i have with Naniwa losing his Code S spot(from my understanding at least he had a code S spot from the MLG and GSL exchange program) is the rule it self that he lost it on. What was it about with the worker rush that was abusive? What I mean is with other strategies he would have a bigger chance of winning but is the reason for choosing a bad strategy a reason for a ban?

But lets say he did not plan on winning the game that he just throw it away is that so serious in this case? Idra have fore fitted games that did not have any meaning. Did not Stephano more or less throw away games in a tournament that actually did change the outcome of the group and he did not get any shit for that. I believe that why this is so big is because Naniwa had so many haters already and because he is a controversial player.

In a much general point if Esport wanna consider it self as a "real" sport we have to use parallels to other sports as well. Not wanting to win or not caring if you win or loses have always been a factor in sports. In the 70s don't remeber what year it was did not Austria and another country just stand in the middle of the field for 30 mins during the last game of the world cup since both teams knew that if the match would draw both teams would advance to the play offs. Football teams don't always use their best players for every single game and so on. In the Olympics 2006 Sweden lost on purpose in the last game of the group stage just to get an easier opponent for the next round.

The people to blame for this whole scenario with Naniwa and Nestea is GOMTV acording to not make sure that every game has a meaning. Just to have a SC2 game broadcasted without a meaning of it is just begging for problems and then punish the player for not taking it serious is even worse when they easily could have foreseen this scenario or even worse scenarios when they were planing this tournament. It would have been worse to have one player with no reason to win against another who has everything to win on the game(I am glad we dident have to see that at least). And for the quote i dont think Naniwa did anything abusive, what he might have done is offend GOM but they deserved it this one time.



Lets put this in perspective.

In Korea, E Sports is already a professional entity. The very word "KESPA" to BW players sums it up. I don know if you realise the amount of dedication and effort these guys put into presenting and producing the entire event. And have you taken a look around at the sponsors and prize pool thats presented EVERY SINGLE GOM HOSTED event?

Now, take that and put it into their economic terms. To win a GSL / Blizz Cup the winner would stand to earn 30 Grand. An Architect / Lawyer earns approximately 36 - 48 Grand a Year. Now tell me. If your company put in so much effort to garner the support of sponsors; hiring a team that runs the event; paying foreign casters; flying these people out to Korea to compete. Would you accept someone pissing all over it because there is nothing to play for?
tlin
Profile Joined December 2011
25 Posts
December 14 2011 16:14 GMT
#4170
I think the most fucked up thing is Chae talking about professional at the same time as he's insulting Naniwa by calling him a prize hunter, which is about the worst player ever to pick out as caring about the money.
JiPrime
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada688 Posts
December 14 2011 16:14 GMT
#4171
On December 15 2011 01:12 XRaDiiX wrote:
Show nested quote +
"During a match, a player shall not offend the opponent or audience with abusive behaviors"


So if this is true and Gom Sticks to the rule they enforced against Naniwa that means bomber should be banned from Code S/A for doing Mule Drops at end of Games... Double Standard GomTV Shame on them.

They are making up rules as they go along; to go as they see fit.

They are not being fair to NaNiwa


They had this kind of rule since the beginning, it was just not on paper because it was so obvious.

And no one at the time would have suspected that someone could be THAT stupid to actually pull a Naniwa.
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
December 14 2011 16:14 GMT
#4172
On December 15 2011 01:12 hypercube wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 01:08 JiPrime wrote:
On December 15 2011 01:05 XRaDiiX wrote:
On December 15 2011 01:04 MrCon wrote:
Will then ban Hero from GSL, canon rushing after pool is done and building canons at the watchtower ?
If the difference between 2 thrown games is the amount of buildings built, they should state it more clearly.


This.... Double Standard = GomTV!


What people like you don't realize that it was the ATTITUDE and the METHOD of the player that made him cross the line, not the deed.


Maybe that's the problem. It reveals that they value "entertainment" over competition. It's their tournament so they can if they want to. But they will get called out on their bs about "respect".


No, it means they value sportsmanship and honour.

If you guys want to think sportsmanship is a farce, then go on. But they chose to believe in that, the koreans believe in that, Naniwa showed none of that, and they took away his invitation cause of that.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10751 Posts
December 14 2011 16:14 GMT
#4173
On December 15 2011 01:11 HappyChris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 01:09 MorroW wrote:
On December 15 2011 01:04 HolydaKing wrote:
On December 15 2011 01:00 MorroW wrote:
why cant just gsl apologize and be the bigger man here and admit their faults for even having the game played rather than punishing naniwa to play a game that didnt matter

if a game doesnt matter, ask the players if they want or dont want to play the game, if not, then give w.o

its retarded and naniwa is the one taking the blow here for something that wasnt his fault

so it would have gone in your mind to play like naniwa? in one of the most prestigious tournaments? just look like how extremely bored he looks. so disrespectful, while he could have gained so much respect.
i suppose you have seen the video or even the live game, but go here if you haven't
www.fomos.kr/gnuboard4/bbs/board.php?bo_table=talk_gossip&wr_id=394130

you dont ban a player for not having his hands on his keyboard while playing, if that was the case sjow wouldnt be a progamer anymore (:D)

also you dont ban someone for looking bored

this is a proffecional sports and players play by the rules of the tournament. naniwa did not break any rules. what is there left to say?


Hahaha Morrow thats just so mean to sjow. lol



Ahm.. If Naniwa would just have done nothing at all, this would also not be ban worthy?

Because.. He is in the game, he just did do nothing... Because well...


He was 100% throwing that game on behalf, i don't care how it looked.. No one should care how it looked. He did it, he got what you should get for stuff like this.
dude_2
Profile Joined October 2009
Germany22 Posts
December 14 2011 16:14 GMT
#4174
On December 15 2011 00:51 Shinta) wrote:
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On December 15 2011 00:33 dude_2 wrote:
i didn't read the whole thread. so sorry if someone has already written the same. but i am really wondering from the pages i have read, how people can argue there exists no throwing away of games in "real" sports. for example, it's pretty common in champions league (football) that already qualified teams send their b-team which is also a huge distortion of competition all the while other teams still playing for a spot.
anyone who has ever competed in sports knows that you don't play to your potential in a meaningless match and often don't make a real effort.
naniwa made it pretty obvious given that, but i as the audience can't blame him for that.

When sports teams send in their B Team, the intention is to rest their A Team and to give their B Team better preparation in case they need to play games later (from A Team injury or w/e). That isn't match throwing unless you're saying that their B Team is a bunch of random people who don't play soccer. Their B Team is on their team in the first place because the team counts on them to play well for them when they are needed to play well. They haven't earned a spot on the A Team, but they are competent players and are paid by the sports team to play the game professionally. IT IS SIMPLY NOT MATCH THROWING.
You can compare this in individual eSports leagues with, when you're playing a bo7 and you're up 3-0, and you use a silly strategy that usually only works in ladder. You're resting your mind while showing an entertaining game, while not giving away any big strategies you might be keeping for a much more pinnacle game.
In a team eSports league, you see all the time in IPL and even GSTL sometimes (and other leagues ofc, but these include Korean teams) teams putting forth B Teamers to either start or get some practice in. That is because they feel confident in their B Teamers, but even more confidence in ther A Teamers to win after their B Teamers might lose. IPL, B Teamers have 5-0'd the best foreign teams time and time again.

This leads me back again, if a football team sends in their B Team, no matter what the case, they aren't throwing the match. They are playing a legitimate game with specific intentions that are understandable and respectable. Even though a team might feel offended that the other team has enough confidence to not play them seriously, (eSports example: NesTea vs HuK), they played them fairly regardless. A real game was played in which both teams were trying, in some shape or form, to win. The B Teamers don't try to lose for the team they try to win, and although the team might not need the win, they are shooting for it nonetheless, even if they aren't trying their absolute hardest because the match isn't super important.

I've seen plenty of NBA games where the entire starting lineup gets like 5 minutes of playing time, and then is sat for the rest of the game so they can play their best in the playoffs, and the team STILL WINS!!!!


well, assuming you bought a ticket for the game (months before, otherwise you won't get it) and then because one team already qualified you will see b-teamers and not players like messi i guess you gonna be not to happy about it. sure the players will give their best, but it is not what the audience was looking for and paying for.

as someone mentioned before, it would have been wiser for naniwa going double nexus, which would be basically the same namely throwing the game, but most likely without any consequences.
sekritzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
1515 Posts
December 14 2011 16:14 GMT
#4175
On December 15 2011 01:12 SnoLys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 00:59 Derez wrote:
Can the thread title be renamed?

Seeing how Slasher (MLG representative and all) has stated that Nani wasn't actually awarded a code S slot for his providence performance, a more accurate title would be 'GomTV decides not to invite Naniwa to Code S January'.


Is GOM trying to save face or did all this people got it wrong?

From MLG own site news:

http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/news/naniwas-ascension
Show nested quote +
Ultimately he dropped the following four games, and despite not being crowned champion, Naniwa has presented one of the most captivating weeks imaginable, both in and out of the game. In the last week, Naniwa has rage quit of of a GSL match, flown half-way around the world, defeated the two most successful Korean Starcraft 2 players back-to-back, sparked a rivalry with Nestea, been the center of controversy in a rematch against Nestea, let a National Championship slip through his fingers and earned a seat in Code S.


http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/news/going-out-with-a-bang-mlg-providence-starcraft-2-recap
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Over the last few months, Naniwa has been training hard over in Korea to take his game to the next level, and his hard work appeared to pay off in Providence. The 2nd Place finish was good enough to earn him a Code S spot, so keep an eye on this MLG Champion as he goes toe-to-toe with the world's best during the offseason.


http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/top-5-stories-from-mlg-providence
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Naniwa, however, stayed focused on his goal. Amidst swirls of tabloid drama and misguided quotes, Naniwa kept his concentration on the task at hand. When his turn to enter the bracket finally rolled around, the Swedish Protoss defeated Nestea for the second time that weekend, and followed the feat with wins over Huk and DongRaeGu. In the end Naniwa failed to seal the deal as he lost four straight games against Leenock in the Grand Finals, but appeared to be a man with a renewed determination and a refined playstyle. With the pedigree Naniwa displayed over the weekend, it's hard not to be excited about Naniwa's 2012 prospects in Code S and at Major League Gaming Events.


http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mlg-and-the-gsl-create-groundbreaking-player-exchange-program
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Pro Circuit Players Competing in the GSL

At MLG Columbus, the Top 3 non-Korean finishers will each be placed into GSL Code A.
At every 2011 Pro Circuit Live Competition after MLG Columbus, GSL placement will occur as follows:
Code S status will be awarded to the highest placing player, within the Top 3, regardless of country of origin, who does not already have Code S status.

Code S status will not be awarded if all of the players placing 1st-3rd already have Code S Status.
Code A status will be awarded to the next three highest placing non-Korean players.
If Code S status is awarded to a Korean player, or not awarded at all, Code A status also will be awarded to the 4th highest placing non-Korean player.


From Complexity, his team at the time: http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/3270/
Show nested quote +
Be sure to watch the GSL's Code S tournament as Naniwa secured himself a spot thanks to the MLG/GSL exchange program.


http://esfiworld.com/sc2/news/naniwa-secures-top-3-finish-victory-over-huk
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Naniwa was able to secure a huge victory and guarantee at least a Top 3 finish in Providence. That placement will gives him a chance to secure Code S and continues the run of world class players that Naniwa has defeated over the course of the championship weekend in Providence.


http://myeg.net/team/surprises-and-sadness-mlg-providence-day-3/
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NaNiwa has finally reestablished himself firmly as one of the world’s top Protoss – and earned himself a Code S spot to boot.


Wonder what slasher has to say about all of these reports done by mlg/random fansites...... or did they all get it wrong? Would love to heard sundance's reply so we can know what the truth is.
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
December 14 2011 16:14 GMT
#4176
Hmm that's crazy... IDK what else to say.
LovE.311 (NA) || @LovE_Sc2
Almtom
Profile Joined May 2009
Sweden132 Posts
December 14 2011 16:15 GMT
#4177
Mr Chae and Gom TV is lying and cheating the viewers..... what else can you say?

On December 15 2011 01:12 SnoLys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 00:59 Derez wrote:
Can the thread title be renamed?

Seeing how Slasher (MLG representative and all) has stated that Nani wasn't actually awarded a code S slot for his providence performance, a more accurate title would be 'GomTV decides not to invite Naniwa to Code S January'.


Is GOM trying to save face or did all this people got it wrong?

From MLG own site news:

http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/news/naniwas-ascension
Show nested quote +
Ultimately he dropped the following four games, and despite not being crowned champion, Naniwa has presented one of the most captivating weeks imaginable, both in and out of the game. In the last week, Naniwa has rage quit of of a GSL match, flown half-way around the world, defeated the two most successful Korean Starcraft 2 players back-to-back, sparked a rivalry with Nestea, been the center of controversy in a rematch against Nestea, let a National Championship slip through his fingers and earned a seat in Code S.


http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/news/going-out-with-a-bang-mlg-providence-starcraft-2-recap
Show nested quote +
Over the last few months, Naniwa has been training hard over in Korea to take his game to the next level, and his hard work appeared to pay off in Providence. The 2nd Place finish was good enough to earn him a Code S spot, so keep an eye on this MLG Champion as he goes toe-to-toe with the world's best during the offseason.


http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/top-5-stories-from-mlg-providence
Show nested quote +
Naniwa, however, stayed focused on his goal. Amidst swirls of tabloid drama and misguided quotes, Naniwa kept his concentration on the task at hand. When his turn to enter the bracket finally rolled around, the Swedish Protoss defeated Nestea for the second time that weekend, and followed the feat with wins over Huk and DongRaeGu. In the end Naniwa failed to seal the deal as he lost four straight games against Leenock in the Grand Finals, but appeared to be a man with a renewed determination and a refined playstyle. With the pedigree Naniwa displayed over the weekend, it's hard not to be excited about Naniwa's 2012 prospects in Code S and at Major League Gaming Events.


http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mlg-and-the-gsl-create-groundbreaking-player-exchange-program
Show nested quote +
Pro Circuit Players Competing in the GSL

At MLG Columbus, the Top 3 non-Korean finishers will each be placed into GSL Code A.
At every 2011 Pro Circuit Live Competition after MLG Columbus, GSL placement will occur as follows:
Code S status will be awarded to the highest placing player, within the Top 3, regardless of country of origin, who does not already have Code S status.

Code S status will not be awarded if all of the players placing 1st-3rd already have Code S Status.
Code A status will be awarded to the next three highest placing non-Korean players.
If Code S status is awarded to a Korean player, or not awarded at all, Code A status also will be awarded to the 4th highest placing non-Korean player.


From Complexity, his team at the time: http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/3270/
Show nested quote +
Be sure to watch the GSL's Code S tournament as Naniwa secured himself a spot thanks to the MLG/GSL exchange program.


http://esfiworld.com/sc2/news/naniwa-secures-top-3-finish-victory-over-huk
Show nested quote +
Naniwa was able to secure a huge victory and guarantee at least a Top 3 finish in Providence. That placement will gives him a chance to secure Code S and continues the run of world class players that Naniwa has defeated over the course of the championship weekend in Providence.


http://myeg.net/team/surprises-and-sadness-mlg-providence-day-3/
Show nested quote +
NaNiwa has finally reestablished himself firmly as one of the world’s top Protoss – and earned himself a Code S spot to boot.


JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
December 14 2011 16:15 GMT
#4178
On December 15 2011 01:11 Sylailene wrote:
Just another example of Koreans trying to act better than everyone else, in an American game at that, what he did wasn't against any rules


This is pretty racist, people should not generalize Koreans as such.
Yargh
Maxwell_
Profile Joined September 2011
Sweden4 Posts
December 14 2011 16:15 GMT
#4179
pathetic move by gomtv
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
December 14 2011 16:15 GMT
#4180
On December 15 2011 01:14 JiPrime wrote:
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On December 15 2011 01:12 XRaDiiX wrote:
"During a match, a player shall not offend the opponent or audience with abusive behaviors"


So if this is true and Gom Sticks to the rule they enforced against Naniwa that means bomber should be banned from Code S/A for doing Mule Drops at end of Games... Double Standard GomTV Shame on them.

They are making up rules as they go along; to go as they see fit.

They are not being fair to NaNiwa


They had this kind of rule since the beginning, it was just not on paper because it was so obvious.

And no one at the time would have suspected that someone could be THAT stupid to actually pull a Naniwa.


Care to elaborate on how Mule Bombs are different than what NaNiwa did by doing a 6 probe rush Strategy.
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