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Please keep this thread on topic. It's ok to discuss the professionalism of what happened, but don't turn this thread into personal attacks or it will be closed. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On December 13 2011 23:04 Lord_J wrote: I don't think it was how a professional ought to conduct himself, but I'd be lying if I said I was particularly bothered by it. My feelings exactly. | ||
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aebriol
Norway2066 Posts
On December 14 2011 02:20 wei2coolman wrote: theoretically a bot can out micro a human, I don't see why a human can't outmicro another human. in pure theory, a 7 probe rush could totally work. Theoretically I could win the lottery tomorrow and win 150 million. That is about the same chance as Naniwa winning that game ... probably higher, if you don't include NesTea having a sudden illness leaving him unable to control his units ... You don't actually believe that he could have won do you? You are just arguing to argue? You cannot possibly be so stupid and ignorant of how the game works that you think he could win? | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 14 2011 02:21 FrankWalls wrote: why should you feel sorry for quantic? they knew what they were getting when they got naniwa. everyone knows he's a PR nightmare. they got him because hes a good player, and he showed that today even in his losses. More like PR treasure chests. Look at Idra and Destiny. It creates giant attention storms, whether good or bad, now they just need a brilliant PR dude to redirect the attention to future projects! | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 14 2011 02:22 aebriol wrote: Theoretically I could win the lottery tomorrow and win 150 million. That is about the same chance as Naniwa winning that game ... probably higher, if you don't include NesTea having a sudden illness leaving him unable to control his units ... Is it the same chances as Naniwa winning with a double gate? | ||
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xsevR
United States324 Posts
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aebriol
Norway2066 Posts
On December 14 2011 02:22 wei2coolman wrote: Is it the same chances as Naniwa winning with a double gate? Nah double proxy gate I'd expect have a 2-5% chance of winning ... either way, I am done arguing with you, because I cannot combat pure stupidity on this level by reasoned arguments. | ||
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resilve
United Kingdom678 Posts
The game had no impact on anything, it had no meaning - why should he take it seriously? You see how many times players forfeit their ranking games at MLGs? Haypro only got his 7th place at Providence because Idra was a no-show for his ranking game. And that is a very common situation, people never show for these matches - because they have no meaning. So lets treat naniwa the same as all players not trying 100% in pointless games. We don't give a toss. | ||
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Chessz
United States644 Posts
I think that this idea will be central to the disagreement between fans. Personally I wanted to see the match played out more fully just because of the history. But I understand people who feel both ways. I think that if he at least does a 4 gate or something, there's a moment of excitement when their supplies are fairly equal and we at least see engagements/micro, even if Nestea has defended it 10000x before | ||
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Rodiel3
France1158 Posts
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00Visor
4337 Posts
I don't know why they let Naniwa play Nestea since they didn't play out matches in up&downs when it didnt matter. It is really dumb and Nani should work on that. But the hate he gets is too much. | ||
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sereniity
Sweden1159 Posts
On December 14 2011 02:15 aebriol wrote: 1) Yes because cheese CAN win. 2) Please grow up. Understand that what he did was ignoring the rules of the competition, acting like a moron, and whatever he gets out of this - he deserves it. Blatant disrespect towards the GSL, and NesTea. I think he should get banned for a year. It's what he deserves. If you think he should be banned for a year then it's safe to say that you're either a huge drama queen or a complete retard, sorry... "the rules of competition"? Please link! How about you sit in Naniwas chair for a sec, get cheesed 3 games in a row just to play a completely useless game after (it's like losing to cheese 3 games in a row and then Mr Chae approaches u and asks, hey dude u wanna play a showmatch?). So many ppl just wanting to hurt pro players or create drama, ridicolous. If anyone here needs to "grow up" as you say, then it's you people who want Naniwa to be punished, you want to PUNSIH such a dedicated players just because he didn't bring YOU greedy guys the game you wanted to see so much. Grow up yourselves, I say. | ||
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b0rt_
Norway931 Posts
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Alacast
United States205 Posts
On December 14 2011 02:22 wei2coolman wrote: Is it the same chances as Naniwa winning with a double gate? Stop trolling, these 17 threads are garbage enough as it is. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 14 2011 02:23 aebriol wrote: Nah double proxy gate I'd expect have a 2-5% chance of winning ... either way, I am done arguing with you, because I cannot combat pure stupidity on this level by reasoned arguments. So by increasing his chances of winning from .01% to a 2-5% he's in the all-clear? lol, the hypocrisy. | ||
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awu25
United States2003 Posts
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
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Tanukki
Finland579 Posts
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Squeegy
Finland1166 Posts
On December 14 2011 02:19 kafkaesque wrote: Again, how exactly does it bother you? I what way does he hurt anyone by throwing away a completely meaningless game? Since this comment is particularly dumb I will respond. It was a grudge match. Nestea wanted revenge and Naniwa had taunted him beforehand. Nestea loses. Many fans wanted to see the grudge match. Many fans lose. It is also a matter of respect. It is a type of privilege to play on that stage. You show respect to it by playing your matches and at least trying to some extent. Is it really that much to ask that you show by play using a standard strategy (thus not giving away any strategical advantage in the futuregames) for some twenty minutes? Naniwa is only getting what he is asking for. People dislike him for a reason. It's not like they just randomly chose to bully him. | ||
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Rassefrasse
18 Posts
On December 14 2011 02:17 Poisonblack wrote: I feel sorry for Quantic... lol I really do too. I would love to have their take on this incident. In my opinion Naniwa disrespected sports in general. You never see a professional soccer-team ignore the ball during a soccer match just because they cannot pass the group stage. It's a sportmans duty to play a game if there are resources being spent toward casting the game. | ||
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
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