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Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
October 27 2011 00:52 GMT
#41
Notice how no one agrees with you? That usually means you've made a horrendous thread. Plus, how is this even remotely geared to try and stop people from whining? A- the patch hasn't even hit and B- I don't know if you're new to this community or what, but people whine, that's what happens every patch regardless.
The universe created an audience for itself.
Avan
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil121 Posts
October 27 2011 00:57 GMT
#42
On October 27 2011 08:54 The_DarkAngelz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 08:50 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Which mod will come to the rescue first I wonder?

I admire some of the effort but basic grammar wouldn't be a terribly bad investment. Maybe we should make the spell check upgrade cheaper? Congrats, you figured out that marauder kills stalkers.


guys u can correct my grammar and send a PM !! i'm learning this damn language!

and the marauder was just an exemple of how upgrades differs from protoss race to the others, because almost half of protoss HP is Shield that gets no benefit from armour upgrade, while other race ground army does.

so a little ajustment was needed to make it a little more balanced.


Man, you know... I'm Brazilian as well, and I work as a translator/interpreter. If you need any help with your future threads, I would be glad to help you. For free :D
"I have never tasted Death, Zeratul. Nor shall I". Liquid'HerO FIGHTING!
Snaphoo
Profile Joined July 2010
United States614 Posts
October 27 2011 00:58 GMT
#43
On October 27 2011 09:11 The_DarkAngelz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 09:08 Honeybadger wrote:
well written, well constructed post....


About a terrible topic.



Protoss need to stop assuming they're underpowered and start figuring out how to beat people (hint, it isn't with a deathball)

I'm so tired of whining protoss doing nothing but the deathball. Here's a tip: if it doesn't work anymore, the definition of insanity is trying the exact same thing again and expecting different results.




LOL, that's exactly what i was talking about...just read the thread...this kind of behavior !!

Let's try something different protoss community, let's innovate, somehow !


Excellent! ...except that Protoss units are terrible for cost and only really work well together where their synergy allows them to be good.

We've tried. Code S Koreans have tried. The race is flawed-- and frankly, it's not like Zerg hasn't QQ'ed and gotten massive buffs (see: Infestor) as a result. No one said "L2P NOOB ZERGS," or if they did, who cares they were wrong as Blizz saw fit to shower them with love.

Take 5 stalkers and try to raid an enemy base. Now try the same thing with 5 marauders with stim and a medivac. Or 5 banelings in an overlord. P units don't work well in small numbers; they scale up.

It's time for P to get some buffs, because there's only so much we can do to win.
ArrozConLeche
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru41 Posts
October 27 2011 00:59 GMT
#44
this is not right, protoss has everything it needs to beat a terran. i actually switched from terran to toss just because i can beat toss when im terran
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 27 2011 01:02 GMT
#45
this should be a blog more than a sc2 general thread...
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Divination
Profile Joined December 2010
United States139 Posts
October 27 2011 01:03 GMT
#46
Did you mention the fact that Protoss upgrades affect every protoss unit (except air which isnt even used in PvT).
And Terran has to upgrade Infantry and Vehicle separately? So we're stuck on MMM anyways, which fails hardcore against a 3 armor zealot archon. And no one is going to pay 50/50 for a useless reaper.
Acnologia
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia410 Posts
October 27 2011 01:04 GMT
#47
On October 27 2011 09:58 Snaphoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 09:11 The_DarkAngelz wrote:
On October 27 2011 09:08 Honeybadger wrote:
well written, well constructed post....


About a terrible topic.



Protoss need to stop assuming they're underpowered and start figuring out how to beat people (hint, it isn't with a deathball)

I'm so tired of whining protoss doing nothing but the deathball. Here's a tip: if it doesn't work anymore, the definition of insanity is trying the exact same thing again and expecting different results.




LOL, that's exactly what i was talking about...just read the thread...this kind of behavior !!

Let's try something different protoss community, let's innovate, somehow !


Excellent! ...except that Protoss units are terrible for cost and only really work well together where their synergy allows them to be good.

We've tried. Code S Koreans have tried. The race is flawed-- and frankly, it's not like Zerg hasn't QQ'ed and gotten massive buffs (see: Infestor) as a result. No one said "L2P NOOB ZERGS," or if they did, who cares they were wrong as Blizz saw fit to shower them with love.

Take 5 stalkers and try to raid an enemy base. Now try the same thing with 5 marauders with stim and a medivac. Or 5 banelings in an overlord. P units don't work well in small numbers; they scale up.

It's time for P to get some buffs, because there's only so much we can do to win.


I believe he was being sarcastic with his second line haha
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The_DarkAngelz
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil221 Posts
October 27 2011 01:20 GMT
#48
On October 27 2011 09:52 Mortal wrote:
Notice how no one agrees with you? That usually means you've made a horrendous thread. Plus, how is this even remotely geared to try and stop people from whining? A- the patch hasn't even hit and B- I don't know if you're new to this community or what, but people whine, that's what happens every patch regardless.


Of couse no one agreed with me, almost all posts was made by dumb people, even u. damn i'll never make another post, world is full of ignorant people !

You write a ton of shit and people see one thing like "of couse...marauder counters stalker and shit", people should get a brain, then they should read and after that THINK, WONDER, then post.

But no, omg. just be inteligent people, don't say something THAT DUMB !
biaxiong
Profile Joined March 2011
United States180 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 01:23:34
October 27 2011 01:23 GMT
#49
Good post, yes, shield upgrades provide for all toss units and buildings but people forgot half the hp are shields(most units). Terran and Zerg bamn! 1 armor for full health pool.
WhiteRa: More GG, more skill.
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
October 27 2011 01:23 GMT
#50
On October 27 2011 10:20 The_DarkAngelz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 09:52 Mortal wrote:
Notice how no one agrees with you? That usually means you've made a horrendous thread. Plus, how is this even remotely geared to try and stop people from whining? A- the patch hasn't even hit and B- I don't know if you're new to this community or what, but people whine, that's what happens every patch regardless.


Of couse no one agreed with me, almost all posts was made by dumb people, even u. damn i'll never make another post, world is full of ignorant people !

You write a ton of shit and people see one thing like "of couse...marauder counters stalker and shit", people should get a brain, then they should read and after that THINK, WONDER, then post.

But no, omg. just be inteligent people, don't say something THAT DUMB !


See, this is why people aren't even being receptive or considering your topic. You're not taking criticism, you're throwing a hissy fit like a child when anyone disagrees with you.
The universe created an audience for itself.
The_DarkAngelz
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil221 Posts
October 27 2011 01:24 GMT
#51
On October 27 2011 10:23 Mortal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 10:20 The_DarkAngelz wrote:
On October 27 2011 09:52 Mortal wrote:
Notice how no one agrees with you? That usually means you've made a horrendous thread. Plus, how is this even remotely geared to try and stop people from whining? A- the patch hasn't even hit and B- I don't know if you're new to this community or what, but people whine, that's what happens every patch regardless.


Of couse no one agreed with me, almost all posts was made by dumb people, even u. damn i'll never make another post, world is full of ignorant people !

You write a ton of shit and people see one thing like "of couse...marauder counters stalker and shit", people should get a brain, then they should read and after that THINK, WONDER, then post.

But no, omg. just be inteligent people, don't say something THAT DUMB !


See, this is why people aren't even being receptive or considering your topic. You're not taking criticism, you're throwing a hissy fit like a child when anyone disagrees with you.


yeah yeah, whatever...
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
October 27 2011 01:24 GMT
#52
On October 27 2011 10:24 The_DarkAngelz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 10:23 Mortal wrote:
On October 27 2011 10:20 The_DarkAngelz wrote:
On October 27 2011 09:52 Mortal wrote:
Notice how no one agrees with you? That usually means you've made a horrendous thread. Plus, how is this even remotely geared to try and stop people from whining? A- the patch hasn't even hit and B- I don't know if you're new to this community or what, but people whine, that's what happens every patch regardless.


Of couse no one agreed with me, almost all posts was made by dumb people, even u. damn i'll never make another post, world is full of ignorant people !

You write a ton of shit and people see one thing like "of couse...marauder counters stalker and shit", people should get a brain, then they should read and after that THINK, WONDER, then post.

But no, omg. just be inteligent people, don't say something THAT DUMB !


See, this is why people aren't even being receptive or considering your topic. You're not taking criticism, you're throwing a hissy fit like a child when anyone disagrees with you.


yeah yeah, whatever...


Thanks for proving my point beautifully, have a nice day.
The universe created an audience for itself.
MasterKush
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom568 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 01:26:22
October 27 2011 01:25 GMT
#53
Why do people who aren't very good at this game, much such in-depth and and bloated arguments about completely pointless subjects?

Someone above me said it best, it's not just a numbers game, it's about execution. If you're in Diamond league then you still have a way to go before any of this stuff you posted about even matters to you.

Sorry for the negative viewpoint but I am noticing a trend of these threads cropping up everyday and it's getting a bit silly.
"Because, maybe, unlike what every whining kid on the internet thinks, terran actually isn't the easiest race? Shocking, I know." - Liquid`Jinro
nakedsurfer
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada500 Posts
October 27 2011 01:26 GMT
#54
On October 27 2011 09:58 Snaphoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 09:11 The_DarkAngelz wrote:
On October 27 2011 09:08 Honeybadger wrote:
well written, well constructed post....


About a terrible topic.



Protoss need to stop assuming they're underpowered and start figuring out how to beat people (hint, it isn't with a deathball)

I'm so tired of whining protoss doing nothing but the deathball. Here's a tip: if it doesn't work anymore, the definition of insanity is trying the exact same thing again and expecting different results.




LOL, that's exactly what i was talking about...just read the thread...this kind of behavior !!

Let's try something different protoss community, let's innovate, somehow !


Excellent! ...except that Protoss units are terrible for cost and only really work well together where their synergy allows them to be good.

We've tried. Code S Koreans have tried. The race is flawed-- and frankly, it's not like Zerg hasn't QQ'ed and gotten massive buffs (see: Infestor) as a result. No one said "L2P NOOB ZERGS," or if they did, who cares they were wrong as Blizz saw fit to shower them with love.

Take 5 stalkers and try to raid an enemy base. Now try the same thing with 5 marauders with stim and a medivac. Or 5 banelings in an overlord. P units don't work well in small numbers; they scale up.

It's time for P to get some buffs, because there's only so much we can do to win.


Wowww what a bad example.. Comparing 5 units that explode and autodie at impact in an overlord to marauders with stim and a medivac compared to naked stalkers....really? How about 5 blink stalkers and an observer raiding an enemy base compared to 5 roaches with burrow and overlord compared to 5 marauders with stim and medivac(see what i did there?all have 1 extra units with them and 1 upgrade that helps them). that makes more sense. It is obvious that the marauder will do more with stim but blink stalkers are amazing at raiding bases. and roaches are great as well. Also in order of most likely to die is roaches with ovy die first>marauders with medivac> and then the blink stalkers
Root4Root
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10365 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 01:28:42
October 27 2011 01:27 GMT
#55
Nice post

Also I think it is a problem regarding the way shields work. Back in BW it was a bit different, shields can regenerate in battle, but now they can't which is pretty huge ( i still don't know why they changed it like that ). Since usually you don't keep your units and they just die, the fact that the units regen 2x faster out of battle isn't as important. So making these upgrades cheaper really makes sense to me.
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
BarbieHsu
Profile Joined September 2011
574 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 01:30:01
October 27 2011 01:29 GMT
#56
Aw....the op thinks he's not being a crybaby by calling other people crybabies preemptively!

How cute!

[I can imagine him smugly pressing the post button, knowing that he'll get a rise out of people]
Morphling_
Profile Joined May 2011
87 Posts
October 27 2011 01:29 GMT
#57
On October 27 2011 08:31 The_DarkAngelz wrote:Terran, if protoss becames imba because of that (with i doubt) don't whine more then what you guys have been whining...just get better, realize new strategies


Thank you for summing up 99% of balance whine with this eloquent and childish statement.

My race is OP: Other races need to play better

Other race is OP: The game is broken fix it
The_DarkAngelz
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil221 Posts
October 27 2011 01:34 GMT
#58
On October 27 2011 10:25 MasterKush wrote:
Why do people who aren't very good at this game, much such in-depth and and bloated arguments about completely pointless subjects?

Someone above me said it best, it's not just a numbers game, it's about execution. If you're in Diamond league then you still have a way to go before any of this stuff you posted about even matters to you.

Sorry for the negative viewpoint but I am noticing a trend of these threads cropping up everyday and it's getting a bit silly.


Well again its not about how u move your army, or how you macro/micro, the porpose is to get people know why changes are made. Why protoss would have such "buff"? are they weak? no, just because the mechanics of protoss race leaves a open in the game. My point is to let people know this point, this weakness, so they can be better gamer.

Secondly, to make people stop complaining about these things, terran players usually are avid to point that someone has no skill, but they don't think when they say it. Protoss have hard trouble to make transitions, while that is not a issue to other races.

3o, I don't play that well, but i watch a LOT, GSL, MLG etc etc. i see top players replays the main thing is that i think i can made people think in details, i love this game and i wanna it to get better, so this post was a failure to make fun of things that is not good to esports while showing some really unknow parts of gameflow.

tnx for replay
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
October 27 2011 01:35 GMT
#59
blog please.
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