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Patch 1.42 - review from a Protoss whiner - Page 2

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-y0shi-
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany994 Posts
October 27 2011 00:11 GMT
#21
You know why people stick protoss units in deathballs? Because theyre awful on their own and will always be outmassed really quickly. 8 Marines in a dropship can take out 10+ drones and then even put up a fight, 4 zealots will be hard pressed to catch any drones.

Gateway units are weak, they have only one purpose, standing in the way on the opponent while the colossi kills him. Theyre symbiotic, dps dealers and gateway barricades.
The_DarkAngelz
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil221 Posts
October 27 2011 00:13 GMT
#22
Forget....people are dumb, Why do i even try?

plz god save us !!
crocodile
Profile Joined February 2011
United States615 Posts
October 27 2011 00:13 GMT
#23
On October 27 2011 08:41 The_DarkAngelz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 08:38 1Eris1 wrote:
Can we actually wait for the patch to come out and see what builds develop before we start crying?


That's exactly why i made this thread, just to STOP any whines.

You're seriously overestimating your influence on other posters if you think that by making one thread, you can stop everyone from whining.

But then again, you have a girlfriend, so clearly we should listen to you -________-
Master League Terran. Huge fan of Quantic Gaming and ROOTDestiny
jinixxx123
Profile Joined June 2010
543 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 00:16:02
October 27 2011 00:15 GMT
#24
why not throw the roach in there too while you at it?

75 minerals /25 gas /2 supply /145 hitpoints/16 damage/4 range


news flash, different races are different. If you didnt know by now, the marauder is SUPPOSED to counter the stalker.

Imagin if the stalker was as strong as the marauder, what the fuck would terran be able to do? ROFLLLLLLLLLLL

User was warned for this post
Maculo
Profile Joined October 2011
21 Posts
October 27 2011 00:16 GMT
#25
Hey OP, I have not been able to follow Sc2 for a while due to work, therefore could you elaborate on your comment about Reapers in endgame please?
Josealtron
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States219 Posts
October 27 2011 00:17 GMT
#26
This thread was made to stop whiners? This IS a whine thread, except its a "Protoss UP QQ" whine thread. This is hilarious.
"If you give up on yourself, you give up on the world."
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
October 27 2011 00:18 GMT
#27
this chenge was needed because unlike terran and zerg protoss has more upgrades for his infantary then other races


I'm sorry but that is not quite true, since zerg has both ground melee and ground ranged attack upgrades, terran has both ground bio and ground mech upgrades, and protoss just has ground upgrades which effects their gateway and robo units.
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The_DarkAngelz
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil221 Posts
October 27 2011 00:19 GMT
#28
On October 27 2011 09:15 jinixxx123 wrote:
why not throw the roach in there too while you at it?

75 minerals /25 gas /2 supply /145 hitpoints/16 damage/4 range


news flash, different races are different. If you didnt know by now, the marauder is SUPPOSED to counter the stalker.

Imagin if the stalker was as strong as the marauder, what the fuck would terran be able to do? ROFLLLLLLLLLLL


it was just an exemple, to show the differences between the upgrades, i never said anyting about damage or using/microing them. It was to show how upgrades worth for each race, in the case 3/3 upgrade are faster and easyier to get as terran them 3/3/3 for protoss (so they are even in upgrades)

sigh...
Sanitarium14
Profile Joined April 2010
United States141 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 00:23:28
October 27 2011 00:21 GMT
#29
Maybe this is like Jonathon Swift's "A Modest Proposal" and that is why it is designed to stop the qq'ing?

But anyway, yes, marauders lose to stalkers in a straight up fight. Marauders can also not shoot up. We have been dealing with the stalker marauder argument the second beta started, and you think you saying anything not said a billion times? Even in light of the new patch, they are different races, and I for one welcome the shield upgrade shield, it affects every Protoss unit. It explains the higher cost, and while it could be "imbalanced" this will rarely decide a game

Never mind, I reread your post, you say people should stop qq'ing about the protoss buff, but you begin with a long paragraph of qq! I agree it may have been a necessary change, but don't do it like that. Just have the "Stop whining arguments" then the "Why it may have been necessary."
eh?
winthrop
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Hong Kong956 Posts
October 27 2011 00:21 GMT
#30
protoss don't have to research for robo units while terran needs to for vehicles and zerg needs to for melee and range
Incredible Miracle
The_DarkAngelz
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil221 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 00:24:09
October 27 2011 00:22 GMT
#31
On October 27 2011 09:16 Maculo wrote:
Hey OP, I have not been able to follow Sc2 for a while due to work, therefore could you elaborate on your comment about Reapers in endgame please?



i see reapers as the most awesome unit in this game....if terran could use them in a late game (instead of doing a round of marauders, get some reapers) and spread them in the map, gaing control over map, and multiple haressing enemy a single reaper could make a full retrat in an mineral line. A drone or two kill and no minine for 10 sec really worth ONE reaper....

but terran does only drops..
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 27 2011 00:24 GMT
#32
This is about as useful as comparing zealots to zerglings
Honeybadger
Profile Joined August 2010
United States821 Posts
October 27 2011 00:25 GMT
#33
On October 27 2011 09:20 unit wrote:

honestly i'd prefer blizzard to remove the colossus and re balance protoss armies


quoted from another thread:

The colossus is the reason your carrier will die in heart of the swarm. Why build carriers when you can build colossus? Oh wait, colossus dead, carrier time? NOPE! now he has a billion vikings. Same goes for corruptors

can't have two capital units countered by the same anti-air unit.

Kill the colossus, keep the carrier IMO (terran player)
"I like to tape my thumbs to my hands to see what it would be like to be a dinosaur."
The_DarkAngelz
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil221 Posts
October 27 2011 00:26 GMT
#34
On October 27 2011 09:21 Sanitarium14 wrote:
Maybe this is like Jonathon Swift's "A Modest Proposal" and that is why it is designed to stop the qq'ing?

But anyway, yes, marauders lose to stalkers in a straight up fight. Marauders can also not shoot up. We have been dealing with the stalker marauder argument the second beta started, and you think you saying anything not said a billion times? Even in light of the new patch, they are different races, and I for one welcome the shield upgrade shield, it affects every Protoss unit. It explains the higher cost, and while it could be "imbalanced" this will rarely decide a game

Never mind, I reread your post, you say people should stop qq'ing about the protoss buff, but you begin with a long paragraph of qq! I agree it may have been a necessary change, but don't do it like that. Just have the "Stop whining arguments" then the "Why it may have been necessary."


That's life, anyone can have it's own argument.

The main purpose of this thread is to make it fun (whining the whiners) and inform people about details of this game, and only after these it's a non whine thread !
HellionDrop
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
281 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 00:35:42
October 27 2011 00:34 GMT
#35
On October 27 2011 09:19 The_DarkAngelz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 09:15 jinixxx123 wrote:
why not throw the roach in there too while you at it?

75 minerals /25 gas /2 supply /145 hitpoints/16 damage/4 range


news flash, different races are different. If you didnt know by now, the marauder is SUPPOSED to counter the stalker.

Imagin if the stalker was as strong as the marauder, what the fuck would terran be able to do? ROFLLLLLLLLLLL


it was just an exemple, to show the differences between the upgrades, i never said anyting about damage or using/microing them. It was to show how upgrades worth for each race, in the case 3/3 upgrade are faster and easyier to get as terran them 3/3/3 for protoss (so they are even in upgrades)

sigh...


the major flaw i see in your argument is that terran also needs to get other upgrades. here you only consider infantry upgrade for terran. but your 3/3/3 is much stronger if you don't build any air units. and 0/0 vikings don't kill colossus fast enough.
Honeybadger
Profile Joined August 2010
United States821 Posts
October 27 2011 00:44 GMT
#36
On October 27 2011 09:22 The_DarkAngelz wrote:
i see reapers as the most awesome unit in this game....if terran could use them in a late game (instead of doing a round of marauders, get some reapers) and spread them in the map, gaing control over map, and multiple haressing enemy a single reaper could make a full retrat in an mineral line. A drone or two kill and no minine for 10 sec really worth ONE reaper....

but terran does only drops..


Let reapers D-8 charge colossi. Shit would get REAL.
"I like to tape my thumbs to my hands to see what it would be like to be a dinosaur."
The_DarkAngelz
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil221 Posts
October 27 2011 00:44 GMT
#37
gezz, read the thread !
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
October 27 2011 00:49 GMT
#38
Oh man this post is terrible... I don't think you know how units work.
banelings
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
October 27 2011 00:50 GMT
#39
On October 27 2011 09:18 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
this chenge was needed because unlike terran and zerg protoss has more upgrades for his infantary then other races


I'm sorry but that is not quite true, since zerg has both ground melee and ground ranged attack upgrades, terran has both ground bio and ground mech upgrades, and protoss just has ground upgrades which effects their gateway and robo units.

and shield upgrades
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
October 27 2011 00:51 GMT
#40
I don't even get how this is supposed to stop whining.
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