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Hmm well circumcision makes you more likely to have ED as you get older so that's one more negative...
What exactly are the positives of circumcision? Easier to clean and better looking...? One is as simple as pulling the skin back in the shower (if your too lazy to do that I'm assuming your not gonna be aesthetically appeasing anyways...) and when pulled back it looks essentially the same. Oh and the 0.1% chance of penile cancer or the 1/1000 chance of stopping HIV are really not that compelling at all...
I keep my dick clean, I don't have a problem lasting to satisfying my girl and I know I'm not losing out on the most sensitive part of my penis making sex on my end much much better. I'm aware my anonymous post doesn't mean shit but personally I'm really happy with my ant eater and all these problems that are spouted in favor of circumcision I have never had an issue with.
I don't like the idea of parents choosing to cut off a piece of a child while he has no say in the matter. It seems wrong to me that you would make such a huge choice for him especially when it's irreversible and it clearly causes pain in the child. Let them get to 18 and then have them choose after they have had a foreskin for a test drive.
p.s. If the OP is so one sided how about you post some different sources that will show statistics that say other wise perhaps instead of just whining about it?
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I am 0.5 circumcised but I guess it half counts
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On September 09 2011 09:11 Diks wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 09:09 zeru wrote:On September 09 2011 09:07 h41fgod wrote:On September 09 2011 08:12 Harrow wrote:
Circumcised people in this thread seem to think that it's some kind of inconvenient nightmare to clean yourself when you're not circumcised. It's really, really not.
It's also baffling to me that "it looks better" is actually an argument. What other kinds of cosmetic surgery do we perform on babies?
And "I don't remember it" doesn't work for me either. I mean, I could punch ten babies in the face and none of them would remember it when they grew up. Still think I'd be arrested for punching babies in the face for no reason. These three points very thoroughly win this thread. Oh, and why does so many of the circumcised posters in this thread completely fly off the rails about the whole claim towards them having inferiority complex? Aggressive posting is not really helping your side of that argument (as that is exactly what someone with an inferiority complex would do. Btw, I thought the inferiority complex thing was BS. I thought the inferiority complex thing was completely made up nonsense too, but after reading this thread...i dunno <.< CMON I'M CIRCUMCISED AND MY GF LOVES IT !! Kidding but this kind of posts looks like the stereotype of an inferiority complexe...
Heh, any GF is gonna tell her BF that he's the best she ever had. You could last 15 mins or you could go for 45; you could go for 2 rounds or you could go for 4, who gives a shit as long as you're enjoying yourself?
My personal stance on circumcision is that it should be performed for medical purposes only.
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There would have to be some pretty immediate medical benefits for me to want to go out and get a circumcision done as an adult. That's just insane.
I am grateful that it was done when I wouldn't remember any of it. My circumcision didn't hurt at all, as far as I know. I was a fucking baby. Maybe there are some people out there who can remember their own birth and aren't bullshitting, but I have to assume that's pretty rare.
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On September 09 2011 10:22 flodeskum wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 09:56 Torte de Lini wrote:
I'm still going to have my child circumcised. I'm part Jewish and it just looks aesthetically better (in my opinion and my girlfriend's).
I just wish my father didn't take pictures of my circumcision. I didn't know what it was when I was a kid looking through these photos, but when I was told what it was, I took a deeper look.
God, I'm so traumatized by myself. No pictures of my younger brother, only of his first son...
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ugh How much time do you plan on spending looking at your sons penis? I bet it won't be as much time as him, so why not let him decide? + Show Spoiler +I honestly don't give a shit about what you choose to do to the genitalia of any of your children, I just thought that was an odd reason 
For many years, as I clean them as children.
His girlfriend will too, very likely.
Not sure why you want to know.
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On September 09 2011 10:43 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 10:22 flodeskum wrote:On September 09 2011 09:56 Torte de Lini wrote:
I'm still going to have my child circumcised. I'm part Jewish and it just looks aesthetically better (in my opinion and my girlfriend's).
I just wish my father didn't take pictures of my circumcision. I didn't know what it was when I was a kid looking through these photos, but when I was told what it was, I took a deeper look.
God, I'm so traumatized by myself. No pictures of my younger brother, only of his first son...
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ugh How much time do you plan on spending looking at your sons penis? I bet it won't be as much time as him, so why not let him decide? + Show Spoiler +I honestly don't give a shit about what you choose to do to the genitalia of any of your children, I just thought that was an odd reason For many years, as I clean them as children. His girlfriend will too, very likely. Not sure why you want to know.
Ok I'll try to explain what the gentleman tried to say : Why don't you let your son take that decision instead of you ?
Because don't tell me you're gonna circumcise your son only because it looks better when you're changing his diapers.
Edit : I'm also very curious about the fact that you seem to know what your son's future girlfriend will prefere. Do you do arranged marriage or are you just saying bullshit just because you can ?
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Is there anyone here who is PRO circumcision at birth? Don't tell me, "Yeah I'm circumcised, and I feel great." I want to know if someone who supports circumcision thinks that having parents decide for their children is better than giving the individual the choice.
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I had the pleasure of seeing a circumcision up close and personal during my OBGYN clerkship and needless to say it made me not want to go to obgyn or peds.
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Pretty upsetting knowing I will never have the same sexual functions as an uncut man assuming that is all fact. However looking at those other statistics such as the graph titled "Circumcision and sexual dysfunction" I would like to know source. It could just be as simple as most americans are circumcised, a large portion of americans are also obese and have other health problems, couldn't that be related? Europeans are not circumcised and are known for usually being fit and healthy.
So yeah. I wish I wasn't done and will not have my kids done if I have any. Just seems there really is no upside to circumcision.
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I see no reason to do a circumcision at birth as the effects arent large enough to warrant doing it without the person's consent. Might as well give men the choice to have it done later in life.
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On September 09 2011 09:59 Najda wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 07:50 SpearWrit wrote:You fail to mention that uncircumcised babies also run the risk of Phimosis, where the foreskin cannot be retracted, blocking the urethra. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhimosisYou also fail to mention that Smegma also grows under foreskins over time, even for uncircumcised men who regularly wash under the foreskin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SmegmaHaving a foreskin doesn't stop a man from having a "dick that isn't calloused and scarred." Circumcised penises grow used to contact with the outside and clothes that allow the skin to toughen and adapt and desensitize in a way that uncircumcised males cannot because they have a layer of skin over the sensitive area. As such, circumcised men have longer stamina during sex BECAUSE their sex organ is less sensitive. That's exactly what I was thinking :D
Unless you make your penis get used to rough contact. This might sound kind of kinky but my penis used to be EXTREMELY sensitive to the point where a single poke would make me squirm. So with a little "training" it wouldn't be too bad. UNCIRCUMCISED PENISES 화이팅!!!
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THe thing the OP seems to forget is that the baby does not remember the cirumcision, nor the pain. Birth itself is painful. Your first breath is painful, as fresh air rushes your lungs. It would be like breathing really cold air in the winter, it hurts. your first breath is much worst then that, yet we do not complain about breathing. A circumcised penis does feel less during intercourse, I am told by someone having a circumsicion very late in life, but from birth one would not know the diferrence. Anyways that is my tib bit of info. Good read though.
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I was so oblivious, now i feel mutilated :/
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On September 09 2011 10:45 Diks wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 10:43 Torte de Lini wrote:On September 09 2011 10:22 flodeskum wrote:On September 09 2011 09:56 Torte de Lini wrote:
I'm still going to have my child circumcised. I'm part Jewish and it just looks aesthetically better (in my opinion and my girlfriend's).
I just wish my father didn't take pictures of my circumcision. I didn't know what it was when I was a kid looking through these photos, but when I was told what it was, I took a deeper look.
God, I'm so traumatized by myself. No pictures of my younger brother, only of his first son...
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ugh How much time do you plan on spending looking at your sons penis? I bet it won't be as much time as him, so why not let him decide? + Show Spoiler +I honestly don't give a shit about what you choose to do to the genitalia of any of your children, I just thought that was an odd reason For many years, as I clean them as children. His girlfriend will too, very likely. Not sure why you want to know. Ok I'll try to explain what the gentleman tried to say : Why don't you let your son take that decision instead of you ? Because don't tell me you're gonna circumcise your son only because it looks better when you're changing his diapers. Edit : I'm also very curious about the fact that you seem to know what your son's future girlfriend will prefere. Do you do arranged marriage or are you just saying bullshit just because you can ?
Arranged marriages are preferred amongst many females, though I can see why you can't believe it.
In addition, by the time he can make a conscious decision, it will even more painful should he decide it to do it.
Lastly, circumcision is for the honor for my father's Jewish. Something I respect and is a part of all of us in this family.
My parents didn't give me a choice to be circumcised. I don't have a problem with them and I take into the idea that they did it with good intentions. You guys are so bent on making sure an infant or future child will have all the decisions in their life, yet, whenever a child fucks up, we blame the parents.
Can't have both.
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On September 09 2011 11:01 StinkyBoots wrote:
THe thing the OP seems to forget is that the baby does not remember the cirumcision, nor the pain. Birth itself is painful. Your first breath is painful, as fresh air rushes your lungs. It would be like breathing really cold air in the winter, it hurts. your first breath is much worst then that, yet we do not complain about breathing. A circumcised penis does feel less during intercourse, I am told by someone having a circumsicion very late in life, but from birth one would not know the diferrence. Anyways that is my tib bit of info. Good read though.
EXACTLY ! This is why we should rape babies legally ! because you know they won't remember and the first breath my hurt more than that.
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Arranged marriages are preferred amongst many females, though I can see why you can't believe it.
In addition, by the time he can make a conscious decision, it will even more painful should he decide it to do it.
Lastly, circumcision is for the honor for my father's Jewish. Something I respect and is a part of all of us in this family.
My parents didn't give me a choice to be circumcised. I don't have a problem with them and I take into the idea that they did it with good intentions. You guys are so bent on making sure an infant or future child will have all the decisions in their life, yet, whenever a child fucks up, we blame the parents.
Can't have both.
Prove me that shit and I'll believe you on that.
I won't answer to your second paragraph because it doesn't make sense at all in my head.
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On September 09 2011 11:01 StinkyBoots wrote:
THe thing the OP seems to forget is that the baby does not remember the cirumcision, nor the pain. Birth itself is painful. Your first breath is painful, as fresh air rushes your lungs. It would be like breathing really cold air in the winter, it hurts. your first breath is much worst then that, yet we do not complain about breathing. A circumcised penis does feel less during intercourse, I am told by someone having a circumsicion very late in life, but from birth one would not know the diferrence. Anyways that is my tib bit of info. Good read though.
Just because a baby doesn't remember the pain doesn't mean it is morally correct to circumcise the baby without consent. Apologies for my analogy, but you wouldn't think it's right for a hundred guys to stick their dicks in a baby's mouth one by one just because the baby "won't remember it," would you?
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There is so much misinformation in this thread it's sad.
If you are interested in the topic, do not use this thread thinking it is a reliable source; keep your searches to academic journals of medicine.
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On September 09 2011 11:03 Diks wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 11:01 StinkyBoots wrote:
THe thing the OP seems to forget is that the baby does not remember the cirumcision, nor the pain. Birth itself is painful. Your first breath is painful, as fresh air rushes your lungs. It would be like breathing really cold air in the winter, it hurts. your first breath is much worst then that, yet we do not complain about breathing. A circumcised penis does feel less during intercourse, I am told by someone having a circumsicion very late in life, but from birth one would not know the diferrence. Anyways that is my tib bit of info. Good read though. EXACTLY ! This is why we should rape babies legally ! because you know they won't remember and the first breath my hurt more than that. EDIT : Show nested quote +
Arranged marriages are preferred amongst many females, though I can see why you can't believe it.
In addition, by the time he can make a conscious decision, it will even more painful should he decide it to do it.
Lastly, circumcision is for the honor for my father's Jewish. Something I respect and is a part of all of us in this family.
My parents didn't give me a choice to be circumcised. I don't have a problem with them and I take into the idea that they did it with good intentions. You guys are so bent on making sure an infant or future child will have all the decisions in their life, yet, whenever a child fucks up, we blame the parents.
Can't have both.
Prove me that shit and I'll believe you on that. I won't answer to your second paragraph because it doesn't make sense at all in my head.
This just in, some women are focused on their careers and education. Not everyone marries for love and not everyone does not trust the judgement of the parents. It is not unnatural for the parents to decide the husband for the women because the parents knows what's best for their child and which man would suit their financial security, etc. etc.
I know, outrageous. Sociology/Anthropology.
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On September 09 2011 11:14 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 11:03 Diks wrote:On September 09 2011 11:01 StinkyBoots wrote:
THe thing the OP seems to forget is that the baby does not remember the cirumcision, nor the pain. Birth itself is painful. Your first breath is painful, as fresh air rushes your lungs. It would be like breathing really cold air in the winter, it hurts. your first breath is much worst then that, yet we do not complain about breathing. A circumcised penis does feel less during intercourse, I am told by someone having a circumsicion very late in life, but from birth one would not know the diferrence. Anyways that is my tib bit of info. Good read though. EXACTLY ! This is why we should rape babies legally ! because you know they won't remember and the first breath my hurt more than that. EDIT :
Arranged marriages are preferred amongst many females, though I can see why you can't believe it.
In addition, by the time he can make a conscious decision, it will even more painful should he decide it to do it.
Lastly, circumcision is for the honor for my father's Jewish. Something I respect and is a part of all of us in this family.
My parents didn't give me a choice to be circumcised. I don't have a problem with them and I take into the idea that they did it with good intentions. You guys are so bent on making sure an infant or future child will have all the decisions in their life, yet, whenever a child fucks up, we blame the parents.
Can't have both.
Prove me that shit and I'll believe you on that. I won't answer to your second paragraph because it doesn't make sense at all in my head. This just in, some women are focused on their careers and education. Not everyone marries for love and not everyone does not trust the judgement of the parents. It is not unnatural for the parents to decide the husband for the women because the parents knows what's best for their child and which man would suit their financial security, etc. etc. I know, outrageous. Sociology/Anthropology.
how did we get to arranged marriages? O.o
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