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So obviously Lamer has an incredibly good record on TLT (40-5 right now, it was 33-1 for a while)
But i\'ve been watching Lamer\'s replays and DAMN is lamer an incredibly strong player. Even in the games he\'s lost (really good game of Trek vs Lamer) Lamer is insanely scary all game long.
Problem is, i\'ve known about lamer, but never really seen him much except on TLT
who\'ve you been playing with lamer!! lol damn
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Yeah I was asking the same thing, wow I'd like to know.. maby Beast and EnJoY been preping him for BATTLE!
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or maybe it is beast/enjoy
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Netherlands4523 Posts
'ok'
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fucking bulgarians, all they need to do is play a year and they are solid top 10 outside korea contenders... im moving asap==;
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lamer was already gosu one year ago;) but he didnt get known . dunno whY;)
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DooMeR, they have to reach your level at SOME point T_T
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Bulgaria has quite a strong Terran Lineup O_o
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Where did you find the replays from TLT?
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On April 18 2005 13:58 jtan wrote: Where did you find the replays from TLT? In player's profile, TLT, view all games.
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On April 18 2005 12:56 Day[9] wrote: So obviously Lamer has an incredibly good record on TLT (40-5 right now, it was 33-1 for a while)
But i\'ve been watching Lamer\'s replays and DAMN is lamer an incredibly strong player. Even in the games he\'s lost (really good game of Trek vs Lamer) Lamer is insanely scary all game long.
Problem is, i\'ve known about lamer, but never really seen him much except on TLT
who\'ve you been playing with lamer!! lol damn
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what've you been eating lamer !? popeye's spinachs ¿¿ lol DAMN !
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On April 18 2005 14:02 Sky101 wrote:In player's profile, TLT, view all games. ah I see. Didnt know it was on wgt
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Netherlands4523 Posts
Lamer is ok, not great.
The fact he's doing good is cuz most ppl on TLT are newbies, and the good players are just playing for fun cuz it's only a ladder.
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If only he spend his time learning english instead of broodwar his life would have some more value
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from watching lamer's TvP it's not beast for sure. Very peculiar style... doesn't use his whole force to attack and uses siege mode much less than most players
of course most people already know that lamer is lamer, but anyway
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On April 18 2005 14:29 ret wrote: Lamer is ok, not great.
The fact he's doing good is cuz most ppl on TLT are newbies, and the good players are just playing for fun cuz it's only a ladder. Let's see "the good" players make it on the front page with a score like that
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Netherlands4523 Posts
ya there's many players who could easily if they tried.....thing is they dont care and shouldn't ...
i know lamer is good im not talkin em down it's just retarded to talk about him as if hes some kind of hidden gosu now, shit like this always happens when people actually show something, but the ones that were hanging around with him already knew he had skill...go look at his pgt scores from last season and shit, it's just that tlt = low skill.
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Could somebody link me to lamers reps? Hopefully not on WGT because I'm perpetually logged in and can't log out (it's crazy)w/ no pass.
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well the only thing you can say about lamer and his skill now adays is that his pgt games made his game more solid, its worth playing as much on pgt as he did / do if you wanna become good. Sometimes your gaming just needs a little brusing;
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Holy helll you're god to me!!!
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wow, alot of us are impressed by lamer's rep and stats...
so it is settled that rep/stats = true skill now? >
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maybe it's true that most of the players don't care much... but most of the reps are ownage i mean besides TreK and Fisheye... Napoleon or even anon got rapped... i wonder who has the best zvt or pvt match in Europe at the moment?
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zvt would have to be mondi. Breakdown maybe...
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zvt mondi pvt hmm draco, nazgul ?
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On April 18 2005 20:08 ProtossControl wrote: ~_~
awesome first post u have :D
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ZvZ Breakdown or Mondi ZvT Mondi or Midian ZvP Mondi TvZ Not sure if Spawn still plays, but I would probably have voted him. TvP Androide maybe TvT Beast PvT Strafe or Nazgul PvZ Strafe PvP No idea
Fair list?
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Heh topic was a bit misleading ;D Would've thought it's a lamer and not "the" lamer.
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On April 18 2005 21:58 Twitt wrote: ZvZ Breakdown or Mondi ZvT Mondi or Midian ZvP Mondi TvZ Not sure if Spawn still plays, but I would probably have voted him. TvP Androide maybe TvT Beast PvT Strafe or Nazgul PvZ Strafe PvP No idea
Fair list?
zvz _not_ mondi. dashwriter is good@ zvz... pvz zelotito or hexer
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Wow...Lamer does that fact before acad rush TvZ and owns all the zergs -.- amazing..lamer 3 - breakdown 0
Edit: wow seriously someone stop his tvz lol
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On April 18 2005 14:46 ret wrote: ya there's many players who could easily if they tried.....thing is they dont care and shouldn't ...
i know lamer is good im not talkin em down it's just retarded to talk about him as if hes some kind of hidden gosu now, shit like this always happens when people actually show something, but the ones that were hanging around with him already knew he had skill...go look at his pgt scores from last season and shit, it's just that tlt = low skill. What makes you think hes trying? Maybe he doesnt give a fuck about the ladder and isnt trying just like you say. Hes obviously a very talented player, so maybe you should stfu jelous cunt.
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On April 18 2005 22:31 ulti wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2005 21:58 Twitt wrote: ZvZ Breakdown or Mondi ZvT Mondi or Midian ZvP Mondi TvZ Not sure if Spawn still plays, but I would probably have voted him. TvP Androide maybe TvT Beast PvT Strafe or Nazgul PvZ Strafe PvP No idea
Fair list? zvz _not_ mondi. dashwriter is good@ zvz... pvz zelotito or hexer
uh dashwriter's zvz is nowhere near mondragons ~_~ zvz = anon / breakdown / mondragon as gosu non kor zvz
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United States10774 Posts
Where did u find the trek vs lamer game ? ~_~
i cant find it in the pack
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On April 18 2005 22:31 ulti wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2005 21:58 Twitt wrote: ZvZ Breakdown or Mondi ZvT Mondi or Midian ZvP Mondi TvZ Not sure if Spawn still plays, but I would probably have voted him. TvP Androide maybe TvT Beast PvT Strafe or Nazgul PvZ Strafe PvP No idea
Fair list? zvz _not_ mondi. dashwriter is good@ zvz... pvz zelotito or hexer
lol? not mondi?
Mondi rapes everyone ZvZ non-Korean.
And PvZ I would say Draco/Zelotito.
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On April 19 2005 00:13 Twisted wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2005 22:31 ulti wrote:On April 18 2005 21:58 Twitt wrote: ZvZ Breakdown or Mondi ZvT Mondi or Midian ZvP Mondi TvZ Not sure if Spawn still plays, but I would probably have voted him. TvP Androide maybe TvT Beast PvT Strafe or Nazgul PvZ Strafe PvP No idea
Fair list? zvz _not_ mondi. dashwriter is good@ zvz... pvz zelotito or hexer lol? not mondi? Mondi rapes everyone ZvZ non-Korean. And PvZ I would say Draco/Zelotito.
I 2nd that.
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Lamer is sponsored by a PC cafe in his own town.For about a year now he is playing non-stop. No wonder why he has become so good.
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Dunaj has cool PvT too. Draco and Dunaj have very stron and stabil PvP. Dunaj's PvZ is funnier than Draco's. But Draco's is stronger and I love his storms =] TvT - maybe Spawn and Raven =] TvZ - Spawn, Raven -_- TvP - Raven =) http://www.pgtour.net/profile.php?a=view&id=61012 Bad, that he isnt playing TLT :/
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Imagine that, a biased Polish player. -_-;;
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Yes lamer is doing good on tlt. Frankly i don't see much more to discuss in this thread.
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On April 19 2005 01:09 Twitt wrote: Imagine that, a biased Polish player. -_-;;
Musli is always claiming that polish player are the best. He doesnt care, that they never proved it...
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On April 19 2005 00:30 mdb wrote: Lamer is sponsored by a PC cafe in his own town.For about a year now he is playing non-stop. No wonder why he has become so good.
Sponsored? All they do for him is let him use the internet for free? If so....."what a sponsorship" -_-
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Lamer seems very good. Nice to see some good terrans coming up after the late zerg wave among non-koreans. Eastern Europe seems to produce the best terrans(russia,poland,bulgaria) while Central/West Europe consists of mostly good Zergs and Protoss players(germany, netherlands, spain).
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On April 19 2005 01:53 Twitt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2005 00:30 mdb wrote: Lamer is sponsored by a PC cafe in his own town.For about a year now he is playing non-stop. No wonder why he has become so good. Sponsored? All they do for him is let him use the internet for free? If so....."what a sponsorship" -_-
He doesnt pay to use the PC, yes.And he spends maybe around 6 hours a day there.At 0.5 eur for hour = 3 Eur a day.I think that is sponrsorship
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On April 18 2005 21:58 Twitt wrote: ZvZ Breakdown or Mondi ZvT Mondi or Midian ZvP Mondi TvZ Not sure if Spawn still plays, but I would probably have voted him. TvP Androide maybe TvT Beast PvT Strafe or Nazgul PvZ Strafe PvP No idea
Fair list?
PvP obviously Fisheye he's fucking strong PvP. Nazgul and Dunaj too. And I think PvT belongs to Trek/Testie though they're not pure toss players. The rest of the list I agree much on except Satanik deserves 2nd to Mondi ZvP. FroZ/Androide has nice TvZ too. Tomson ZvT when active, and Zelotito PvZ. TvT - Beast TvP - Androide and ZvZ - Mondi/Break is no question about.
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That's total slave labour.
Lamer needs a better agent.
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On April 18 2005 23:43 SproutBoy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2005 14:46 ret wrote: ya there's many players who could easily if they tried.....thing is they dont care and shouldn't ...
i know lamer is good im not talkin em down it's just retarded to talk about him as if hes some kind of hidden gosu now, shit like this always happens when people actually show something, but the ones that were hanging around with him already knew he had skill...go look at his pgt scores from last season and shit, it's just that tlt = low skill. What makes you think hes trying? Maybe he doesnt give a fuck about the ladder and isnt trying just like you say. Hes obviously a very talented player, so maybe you should stfu jelous cunt.
yeah or maybe hes on my f list and i play with him daily......
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On April 19 2005 02:13 Guybrush wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2005 21:58 Twitt wrote: ZvZ Breakdown or Mondi ZvT Mondi or Midian ZvP Mondi TvZ Not sure if Spawn still plays, but I would probably have voted him. TvP Androide maybe TvT Beast PvT Strafe or Nazgul PvZ Strafe PvP No idea
Fair list? PvP obviously Fisheye he's fucking strong PvP. Nazgul and Dunaj too. And I think PvT belongs to Trek/Testie though they're not pure toss players. The rest of the list I agree much on except Satanik deserves 2nd to Mondi ZvP. FroZ/Androide has nice TvZ too. Tomson ZvT when active, and Zelotito PvZ. TvT - Beast TvP - Androide and ZvZ - Mondi/Break is no question about.
I can see how the "in Europe" part confused you, or maybe you're not too good with the ole geography eh?
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whats all the anger about.
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No anger. Was just making a sarcastic joke. =o
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hehe no offence taken Though I did only mention one non european. Froz probably has italian roots anyway
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lamer was good last year too ... he finished 3rd on bul wcg 2004 and became crazy.The thing was that both beast/enjoy best MUs are TVT. Now after 20++ games daily its normal to be as strong and confident player as he is now. if u r not an idiot of course+_+
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On April 18 2005 22:31 ulti wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2005 21:58 Twitt wrote: ZvZ Breakdown or Mondi ZvT Mondi or Midian ZvP Mondi TvZ Not sure if Spawn still plays, but I would probably have voted him. TvP Androide maybe TvT Beast PvT Strafe or Nazgul PvZ Strafe PvP No idea
Fair list? zvz _not_ mondi. dashwriter is good@ zvz... pvz zelotito or hexer HeXer's PvZ is awesome ;o
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On April 18 2005 23:43 SproutBoy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2005 14:46 ret wrote: ya there's many players who could easily if they tried.....thing is they dont care and shouldn't ...
i know lamer is good im not talkin em down it's just retarded to talk about him as if hes some kind of hidden gosu now, shit like this always happens when people actually show something, but the ones that were hanging around with him already knew he had skill...go look at his pgt scores from last season and shit, it's just that tlt = low skill. What makes you think hes trying? Maybe he doesnt give a fuck about the ladder and isnt trying just like you say. Hes obviously a very talented player, so maybe you should stfu jelous cunt.
get off his cock, ret is better than lamer ;d
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I would guess Lamer is playing his heart out in a ladder full of unknowns, where every good player is randoming.
He's better than most people give him credit for, though. Prior to TLT I thought Lamer was pub-west level.
He's fun to watch, too. You can tell who his influence is... Oov 100% with his constant abuse of early-expo.
Anybody have any idea who "asiwant" is? I think he's currently ranked 3rd on TLT?
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Midian's ZvT is weak, his ZvP is a lot stronger.
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I wonder how will he do in the tournament, he has a impressive style and his games are nice to watch, TvP especially.
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you must admit his skills,he's not that lamer as most of you said.you will see his real skills at WCG , when he'll rape you all . and he is only sixteen , he's future is in front of him.i really hope he can deserve a ticket to korea and join leg'team.lol did you see his result vs fisheye (tvz) .........impressive.......
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Lamer is good, and it's pretty stupid to say that nearly only newbies on TLT, because clearly not that. Mostly 'The Best' players aren't playing, and they who are aren't taking too seriously. We will see at tournamentpart how he will he manage.
And listing best players on specific match ups is stupid, because there isn't correct answer.
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Here is the REAL list of best MU's outside Korea (not Europe, just outside Korea):
PvP: Testie PvZ: Testie PvT: Testie TvP: Testie TvZ: Testie TvT: Testie ZvP: Testie ZvZ: Testie ZvT: Testie
I'm right, and you all know it
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On April 19 2005 07:23 Purind wrote: Here is the REAL list of best MU's outside Korea (not Europe, just outside Korea):
PvP: Testie PvZ: Testie PvT: Testie TvP: Testie TvZ: Testie TvT: Testie ZvP: Testie ZvZ: Testie ZvT: Testie
I'm right, and you all know it
haha, gold!
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oh and seriously, mondi's ZvT is not impressive
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On April 19 2005 02:58 ret wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2005 23:43 SproutBoy wrote:On April 18 2005 14:46 ret wrote: ya there's many players who could easily if they tried.....thing is they dont care and shouldn't ...
i know lamer is good im not talkin em down it's just retarded to talk about him as if hes some kind of hidden gosu now, shit like this always happens when people actually show something, but the ones that were hanging around with him already knew he had skill...go look at his pgt scores from last season and shit, it's just that tlt = low skill. What makes you think hes trying? Maybe he doesnt give a fuck about the ladder and isnt trying just like you say. Hes obviously a very talented player, so maybe you should stfu jelous cunt. yeah or maybe hes on my f list and i play with him daily...... -.- And does he rape you? And then do you post in forums saying hes shit just becuase he rapes you? If you have rep of beating him upload it for us to see, otherwise dont trash talk other gamers even "if you dont mean" to trash talk them.
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sproutboy in bad mood >_<
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On April 19 2005 07:26 Resonate wrote: oh and seriously, mondi's ZvT is not impressive
Yes it is, just because you see a game where he's losing to Delete[hyo] doesn't mean his ZvT isn't impressive. It's really really strong and solid for non-Korean standards.
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On April 19 2005 07:32 SproutBoy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2005 02:58 ret wrote:On April 18 2005 23:43 SproutBoy wrote:On April 18 2005 14:46 ret wrote: ya there's many players who could easily if they tried.....thing is they dont care and shouldn't ...
i know lamer is good im not talkin em down it's just retarded to talk about him as if hes some kind of hidden gosu now, shit like this always happens when people actually show something, but the ones that were hanging around with him already knew he had skill...go look at his pgt scores from last season and shit, it's just that tlt = low skill. What makes you think hes trying? Maybe he doesnt give a fuck about the ladder and isnt trying just like you say. Hes obviously a very talented player, so maybe you should stfu jelous cunt. yeah or maybe hes on my f list and i play with him daily...... -.- And does he rape you? And then do you post in forums saying hes shit just becuase he rapes you? If you have rep of beating him upload it for us to see, otherwise dont trash talk other gamers even "if you dont mean" to trash talk them.
go hang a shit or something you need to relax
and no im not gonna upload any reps i didnt even save any of them except for ogcl games and u can dl them off their site probably.
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I only watched the game vs Trek but i think he played very impressive, especially in the game he lost.
I also second the player who said Testie/Trek is the top PvT players atm
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well ret "it's just that tlt = low skill" is just ridiculous ... you surely are better than lamer, but lots of players on there are better than you ... cant deny that  --- no offense, just truth..
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i am not sure if lamer is better than ret. i dont care anyway. i just know that mondi was not always good @ zvz and i remember him losing a lot of games against breakdown and dashwriter. and: a lot of those games were important.
i didnt watch recent zvz reps of him thou
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thats cause zvz has a element of luck and draw, so even the best can lose silly games on a fairly consistant level.
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His TVZ opening is ridiculous. Fast mass muta or maybe hidden mass ling are the only counter. He raped Breakdown who didnt' random TVZ.
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ZvZ mondi, Sen ZvT Mondi, ret ZvP mondi, ret,midian TvZ Ret TvT who cares TvP No clue PvZ used to be me, now its nazgul and fisheye PvP used to be me too, now its nazgul,fisheye PvT used to be as well, now its again nazgul fisheye and maybe dunaj
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On April 19 2005 09:11 {ToT}Strafe wrote: ZvZ mondi, Sen ZvT Mondi, ret ZvP mondi, ret,midian TvZ Ret TvT who cares TvP No clue PvZ used to be me, now its nazgul and fisheye PvP used to be me too, now its nazgul,fisheye PvT used to be as well, now its again nazgul fisheye and maybe dunaj man how can u say that pvsp ¨its use to be me ¨ wtf i almost raped u everyday pvsp when u was in my fl 8/
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and u forgot something important , zelotitos p vs p is probably the best with fisheye , th eproblem is u havent seen it , but remember him 3-2ing leg on neo ex , or p2p. and mondie is the best in all zerg matchups.
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On April 19 2005 08:38 komsu wrote:well ret "it's just that tlt = low skill" is just ridiculous ... you surely are better than lamer, but lots of players on there are better than you ... cant deny that  --- no offense, just truth..
well of course its not bad skill but the only thing u can compare it to is PGT, and in that comparison it comes out as low skill.
i just remember lamer like 80-80 on pgt, that's why I said that.
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LAMER ALL TIME TOP 3 TERRAN! TvZ - LAMER TvT - LAMER TvP - LAMER TvR - LAMER TvG - LAMER
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lol just wait for final tournament
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