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askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
August 31 2011 04:02 GMT
#241
blame to kid but also blame the parents

when i was a kid I knew that if i did something stupid like this i'd be in deep shit from my moms and dads.
hihihi
hYdrA-MeNo
Profile Joined January 2010
Mexico344 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 05:59:43
August 31 2011 04:03 GMT
#242
all i have to say is HAHA i bet he wont be throwing anything at anyone or anything ever again......
Cant Tell you Whats good....But i can tell you what's what
Bobgrimly
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand250 Posts
August 31 2011 04:03 GMT
#243
On August 31 2011 12:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 12:55 Bobgrimly wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:53 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:51 Bobgrimly wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:42 Torte de Lini wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:36 Bobgrimly wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:28 Bobgrimly wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:19 Bobgrimly wrote:
If the kid died I wouldn't blame the shooter. I would blame the kids parents. My parents taught me right from wrong.
If you are stupid enough to discuss whether or not the shooter over reacted the first thing you should be discussing is how a child is not taught that throwing rocks at a moving vehicle can result in damage to not only property but to the drivers and occupants of said vehicles. Make excuses for the kid all you like. Because he is a kid is no excuse. What he was doing had potentially lethal consequences.

Lets all laugh at the dumb kid and enjoy this as it should be enjoyed. A relatively cheap lesson he learned without the help of his obviously useless parents.

are you an anarchocapitalist this is a serious qustion


Nope. Just believe that if you are foolish enough to analyse a random event and start making condemnations then you should start at the beginning. The kid obviously doesn't respect people or their property. Something my parents taught me.

So blame the parents. If the kid wasn't being a little prick I doubt anyone would be laughing at the fact he was shot. Had he been minding his own business and was shot in the manner he was most people would be very eager to form a lynch mob for the shooter. So the problem started with the kid and his lack of respect. Hence its funny he got hurt. Stop trying to be all upset over something that is hilarious karma as many people have pointed out.

you should look into it because what you're advocating is pretty much lawless vigilante justice


You are a mindless troll but I am bored so I will bite. If you had reading comprehension past a 2 year old level you might be able to see I am pointing out that his parenting led to his current hospitalisation and perhaps if people taught their children respect for other people and their property, crime would be non existent. Unfortunately there are many bad parents so I guess its ok for kids to act like a delinquent and then for you to get upset when they suffer for their delinquency.

Just remember next time you want to throw rocks... someone might have a crossbow or worse... a GUN. Tell your kids!!!


Why are you being condescending?

No amount of damage is the equivalent of hurting a child, despite the age.
Believe it or not, kids know right from wrong, they just can't measure the severity. Throwing rocks at cars seems minor, it won't break the car and if the rocks were small, they wouldn't do any major damage.

Do you think a child, who can't drive nor know the costs of cars or the ideas of scratching or denting is aware that rocks at cars causes severe monetary damage?

Be realistic. A child's comprehension is not the equivalent of our's. The idea of "knowing right from wrong" is a broad generalization which you never refine on the finer points such as severity and depth of one's "wrongness".

It's not bad parenting, it's just a lack of grasping the situation.

You can't blame bad parenting all the time. Especially when the person overreacted. Just because the legitimate ways of reporting an incident or teaching a child what he is doing is wrong/discouraging isn't as strong or extensively treated to your standard doesn't mean going to the extreme is suddenly acceptable or the norm.


You can and should blame parents and children. Parents take on the responsibility of raising children when they make them. They should be responsible for their actions. Until the child is of legal age or emancipated the parents should be responsible for its actions. Simple really. Just means as a parent you ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE A PARENT to your child.

you don't know anything about this kids parents


I know they couldn't teach one of their kids not to throw rocks at cars. And that is a very basic concept..... therefore they probably won't win mother and father of the year.

my parents taught me a lot of thing that i disobeyed as a teenager because i was influenced by alternative peer groups or whatever

society is pretty complex when it comes to forming value systems it's not just a top down Parent->Child system, there are more things involved. the whole method by which people can get groomed into crime despite what their parents may or may not believe has a few explanations. look up differential association


Well if the kid choose to ignore his parents... as has been stated.... LOL. He got what was coming to him and hopefully learnt his lesson.
For the swarm
Brethern
Profile Joined February 2011
231 Posts
August 31 2011 04:03 GMT
#244
On August 31 2011 12:54 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 12:51 Bobgrimly wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:42 Torte de Lini wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:36 Bobgrimly wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:28 Bobgrimly wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:19 Bobgrimly wrote:
If the kid died I wouldn't blame the shooter. I would blame the kids parents. My parents taught me right from wrong.
If you are stupid enough to discuss whether or not the shooter over reacted the first thing you should be discussing is how a child is not taught that throwing rocks at a moving vehicle can result in damage to not only property but to the drivers and occupants of said vehicles. Make excuses for the kid all you like. Because he is a kid is no excuse. What he was doing had potentially lethal consequences.

Lets all laugh at the dumb kid and enjoy this as it should be enjoyed. A relatively cheap lesson he learned without the help of his obviously useless parents.

are you an anarchocapitalist this is a serious qustion


Nope. Just believe that if you are foolish enough to analyse a random event and start making condemnations then you should start at the beginning. The kid obviously doesn't respect people or their property. Something my parents taught me.

So blame the parents. If the kid wasn't being a little prick I doubt anyone would be laughing at the fact he was shot. Had he been minding his own business and was shot in the manner he was most people would be very eager to form a lynch mob for the shooter. So the problem started with the kid and his lack of respect. Hence its funny he got hurt. Stop trying to be all upset over something that is hilarious karma as many people have pointed out.

you should look into it because what you're advocating is pretty much lawless vigilante justice


You are a mindless troll but I am bored so I will bite. If you had reading comprehension past a 2 year old level you might be able to see I am pointing out that his parenting led to his current hospitalisation and perhaps if people taught their children respect for other people and their property, crime would be non existent. Unfortunately there are many bad parents so I guess its ok for kids to act like a delinquent and then for you to get upset when they suffer for their delinquency.

Just remember next time you want to throw rocks... someone might have a crossbow or worse... a GUN. Tell your kids!!!


Why are you being condescending?

No amount of damage is the equivalent of hurting a child, despite the age.
Believe it or not, kids know right from wrong, they just can't measure the severity. Throwing rocks at cars seems minor, it won't break the car and if the rocks were small, they wouldn't do any major damage.

Do you think a child, who can't drive nor know the costs of cars or the ideas of scratching or denting is aware that rocks at cars causes severe monetary damage?

Be realistic. A child's comprehension is not the equivalent of our's. The idea of "knowing right from wrong" is a broad generalization which you never refine on the finer points such as severity and depth of one's "wrongness".

It's not bad parenting, it's just a lack of grasping the situation.

You can't blame bad parenting all the time. Especially when the person overreacted. Just because the legitimate ways of reporting an incident or teaching a child what he is doing is wrong/discouraging isn't as strong or extensively treated to your standard doesn't mean going to the extreme is suddenly acceptable or the norm.


You can and should blame parents and children. Parents take on the responsibility of raising children when they make them. They should be responsible for their actions. Until the child is of legal age or emancipated the parents should be responsible for its actions. Simple really. Just means as a parent you ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE A PARENT to your child.


Nice leap.
Blaming the parents for the irrational thinking of the child is correct.
Blaming the parents for his hospitalization is leaping.

Good try.

It's so easy to tell parents to parent properly without taking into account their situation or socioeconomic status.

I'm not sure about you but telling your kids not the throw rocks at cars followed by a backhand across the face is a pretty good method of teaching your kids.

If the parents aren't willing to use a little force, when force is going to be used it's going to be severe.
Millitron
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2611 Posts
August 31 2011 04:04 GMT
#245
Times like this is why the pope banned crossbows.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossbow#Legal_issues
Who called in the fleet?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 06:00:15
August 31 2011 04:04 GMT
#246
A wild SUV appears... It uses CROSSBOW. It's super effective!
liftlift > tsm
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
August 31 2011 04:05 GMT
#247
On August 31 2011 13:03 Bobgrimly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 12:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:55 Bobgrimly wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:53 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:51 Bobgrimly wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:42 Torte de Lini wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:36 Bobgrimly wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:28 Bobgrimly wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
[quote]
are you an anarchocapitalist this is a serious qustion


Nope. Just believe that if you are foolish enough to analyse a random event and start making condemnations then you should start at the beginning. The kid obviously doesn't respect people or their property. Something my parents taught me.

So blame the parents. If the kid wasn't being a little prick I doubt anyone would be laughing at the fact he was shot. Had he been minding his own business and was shot in the manner he was most people would be very eager to form a lynch mob for the shooter. So the problem started with the kid and his lack of respect. Hence its funny he got hurt. Stop trying to be all upset over something that is hilarious karma as many people have pointed out.

you should look into it because what you're advocating is pretty much lawless vigilante justice


You are a mindless troll but I am bored so I will bite. If you had reading comprehension past a 2 year old level you might be able to see I am pointing out that his parenting led to his current hospitalisation and perhaps if people taught their children respect for other people and their property, crime would be non existent. Unfortunately there are many bad parents so I guess its ok for kids to act like a delinquent and then for you to get upset when they suffer for their delinquency.

Just remember next time you want to throw rocks... someone might have a crossbow or worse... a GUN. Tell your kids!!!


Why are you being condescending?

No amount of damage is the equivalent of hurting a child, despite the age.
Believe it or not, kids know right from wrong, they just can't measure the severity. Throwing rocks at cars seems minor, it won't break the car and if the rocks were small, they wouldn't do any major damage.

Do you think a child, who can't drive nor know the costs of cars or the ideas of scratching or denting is aware that rocks at cars causes severe monetary damage?

Be realistic. A child's comprehension is not the equivalent of our's. The idea of "knowing right from wrong" is a broad generalization which you never refine on the finer points such as severity and depth of one's "wrongness".

It's not bad parenting, it's just a lack of grasping the situation.

You can't blame bad parenting all the time. Especially when the person overreacted. Just because the legitimate ways of reporting an incident or teaching a child what he is doing is wrong/discouraging isn't as strong or extensively treated to your standard doesn't mean going to the extreme is suddenly acceptable or the norm.


You can and should blame parents and children. Parents take on the responsibility of raising children when they make them. They should be responsible for their actions. Until the child is of legal age or emancipated the parents should be responsible for its actions. Simple really. Just means as a parent you ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE A PARENT to your child.

you don't know anything about this kids parents


I know they couldn't teach one of their kids not to throw rocks at cars. And that is a very basic concept..... therefore they probably won't win mother and father of the year.

my parents taught me a lot of thing that i disobeyed as a teenager because i was influenced by alternative peer groups or whatever

society is pretty complex when it comes to forming value systems it's not just a top down Parent->Child system, there are more things involved. the whole method by which people can get groomed into crime despite what their parents may or may not believe has a few explanations. look up differential association


Well if the kid choose to ignore his parents... as has been stated.... LOL. He got what was coming to him and hopefully learnt his lesson.

your view is pretty black and white that's not how the world works
RIP Aaliyah
xAPOCALYPSEx
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1418 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 04:06:20
August 31 2011 04:05 GMT
#248
How can you guys be cheering for the guy that shot the kid? That really is pretty disgusting -.-

I'm sure you guys have done stupid shit while you were kids too, do you think you deserved a fucking crossbow bolt in the chest because of it?

The driver who shot the kid is an idiot, moreso than the kid himself. that crossbow probably had as good of a chance of killing him as it did not
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 06:00:25
August 31 2011 04:05 GMT
#249
i find the story fucking awesome to be honest

now if the kid had died it would have been a little less awesome but fuck how can a news be more perfect?
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 31 2011 04:06 GMT
#250
On August 31 2011 13:05 xAPOCALYPSEx wrote:
How can you guys be cheering for the guy that shot the kid? That really is pretty disgusting -.-

I'm sure you guys have done stupid shit while you were kids too, do you think you deserved a fucking crossbow bolt in the chest because of it?

The driver who shot the kid is an idiot, that crossbow probably had as good of a chance of killing him as it did not

Can you shoot a kid with a crossbow while driving a SUV?
HUH?
CAN YOU?

Any gangbanger can brag about shooting up a neighborhood with his mac-10, how many people can say they've done it w/ a crossbow? and to a douchebag kid f-cking up his ride?
liftlift > tsm
MagicGunner
Profile Joined January 2011
United States78 Posts
August 31 2011 04:06 GMT
#251
On August 31 2011 12:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 12:48 MagicGunner wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:40 nemo14 wrote:
If you've never seen a crossbow in action then you probably have no way of conceiving exactly how deadly a loosed bolt is. I have watched deer take one through the heart/lungs and be dead before their legs even gave out, and I can tell you that what the guy in the car did was just as bad as any attempted murder with a firearm. If that bolt had landed six inches higher the kid would be IN THE GROUND right now.

You all just think it's funny because you don't connote a crossbow with dramatic death like you do a gun.

no some people actually think the best way to have a society is to let people learn right/wrong by being beaten severely or injured/kill when they make mistakes i'm sure if it was a gun there would be quite a few people saying the same thing "his parents should have taught him better" "well he won't be throwing rocks ever again, he learned his lesson"


LOL Are you serious? Bumping into a stand and breaking a vase is a mistake, eating somebody else's pudding without knowing is a mistake but throwing rocks at moving cars is NOT a mistake. He didn't deserve getting shot or getting beat by a stranger, he deserved to be drug to a court and told the severity of his actions and made to see what could happen and do fucking community service. But just because he's the victim of a far greater crime DOES NOT pardon him of his reckless idiocy.

Yeah I agree. It's a mistake of choice but by mistake I really mean bad decision, not an accidental mishap. By no means am I saying the kid wasn't terribly wrong or that he should be pardoned. I never said that. He by all means should have been arrested. All I'm saying is the actions of the driver were reprehensible.


I understand what you're saying now. One of the greatest lessons I learned in life was that the easiest way to avoid danger is to avoid situations that invite danger. It's disgusting somebody would shoot a kid but he was in a situation that openly welcomed retaliation. I hope they find the guy who shot him and throw him in prison but I also hope this kid understands the full gravity of what he did.

He's lucky he didn't kill somebody and he's lucky he didn't get killed.
Tektos
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1321 Posts
August 31 2011 04:07 GMT
#252
On August 31 2011 13:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 12:58 Tektos wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:53 deathserv wrote:
I was amused by this as well, but as a law student, I also acknowledge that what occurred was potentially attempted murder depending on the sequence of events... I suppose that I shouldn't be surprised at the depths of stupidity in our country sometimes...



I agree, throwing rocks at moving cars is potentially attempted murder.



it was in a neighborhood usually on residential streets the speed limit is around 25 MPH the size of the rock or the speed of the car was never mentioned you're grasping at straws trying to compare it to a crossbow shot


I did say potentially.


And to go with your point, the rock size and speed were never mentioned so it is just as justifiable to assume he was going 60 mph and the rock weighed 2 kg as it is to assume the car was going 5 mph and the rock weighed 10 grams.
muse5187
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
1125 Posts
August 31 2011 04:08 GMT
#253
I don't understand what is going on at TL. Every thread about something horrible there are like 10 guys saying the victim deserved it. The boy is a victim, it's such an extreme use of force. A crossbow is a fucking deadly weapon and should be considered as such in the same way a gun is. If your kid did something wrong is it ok for me to shoot them with my gun?
Bobgrimly
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand250 Posts
August 31 2011 04:08 GMT
#254
On August 31 2011 13:03 Brethern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 12:54 Torte de Lini wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:51 Bobgrimly wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:42 Torte de Lini wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:36 Bobgrimly wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:28 Bobgrimly wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:19 Bobgrimly wrote:
If the kid died I wouldn't blame the shooter. I would blame the kids parents. My parents taught me right from wrong.
If you are stupid enough to discuss whether or not the shooter over reacted the first thing you should be discussing is how a child is not taught that throwing rocks at a moving vehicle can result in damage to not only property but to the drivers and occupants of said vehicles. Make excuses for the kid all you like. Because he is a kid is no excuse. What he was doing had potentially lethal consequences.

Lets all laugh at the dumb kid and enjoy this as it should be enjoyed. A relatively cheap lesson he learned without the help of his obviously useless parents.

are you an anarchocapitalist this is a serious qustion


Nope. Just believe that if you are foolish enough to analyse a random event and start making condemnations then you should start at the beginning. The kid obviously doesn't respect people or their property. Something my parents taught me.

So blame the parents. If the kid wasn't being a little prick I doubt anyone would be laughing at the fact he was shot. Had he been minding his own business and was shot in the manner he was most people would be very eager to form a lynch mob for the shooter. So the problem started with the kid and his lack of respect. Hence its funny he got hurt. Stop trying to be all upset over something that is hilarious karma as many people have pointed out.

you should look into it because what you're advocating is pretty much lawless vigilante justice


You are a mindless troll but I am bored so I will bite. If you had reading comprehension past a 2 year old level you might be able to see I am pointing out that his parenting led to his current hospitalisation and perhaps if people taught their children respect for other people and their property, crime would be non existent. Unfortunately there are many bad parents so I guess its ok for kids to act like a delinquent and then for you to get upset when they suffer for their delinquency.

Just remember next time you want to throw rocks... someone might have a crossbow or worse... a GUN. Tell your kids!!!


Why are you being condescending?

No amount of damage is the equivalent of hurting a child, despite the age.
Believe it or not, kids know right from wrong, they just can't measure the severity. Throwing rocks at cars seems minor, it won't break the car and if the rocks were small, they wouldn't do any major damage.

Do you think a child, who can't drive nor know the costs of cars or the ideas of scratching or denting is aware that rocks at cars causes severe monetary damage?

Be realistic. A child's comprehension is not the equivalent of our's. The idea of "knowing right from wrong" is a broad generalization which you never refine on the finer points such as severity and depth of one's "wrongness".

It's not bad parenting, it's just a lack of grasping the situation.

You can't blame bad parenting all the time. Especially when the person overreacted. Just because the legitimate ways of reporting an incident or teaching a child what he is doing is wrong/discouraging isn't as strong or extensively treated to your standard doesn't mean going to the extreme is suddenly acceptable or the norm.


You can and should blame parents and children. Parents take on the responsibility of raising children when they make them. They should be responsible for their actions. Until the child is of legal age or emancipated the parents should be responsible for its actions. Simple really. Just means as a parent you ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE A PARENT to your child.


Nice leap.
Blaming the parents for the irrational thinking of the child is correct.
Blaming the parents for his hospitalization is leaping.

Good try.

It's so easy to tell parents to parent properly without taking into account their situation or socioeconomic status.

I'm not sure about you but telling your kids not the throw rocks at cars followed by a backhand across the face is a pretty good method of teaching your kids.

If the parents aren't willing to use a little force, when force is going to be used it's going to be severe.



This man gets it. Betting the people shocked at the driver are also people who don't believe there is ever reason to smack a child. But I would rather get a smack from a parent teaching me a lesson than a crossbow bolt from a driver teaching me the same lesson.
For the swarm
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 06:00:35
August 31 2011 04:08 GMT
#255
Well, when I saw the title I have to admit I smiled. Can anyone say karma?

But then again, the shooter almost killed the kid. A few inches to a foot a different direction and this would have turned out so much worse.

Whatever, I'm still smiling, so I guess that's that.
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 06:00:47
August 31 2011 04:08 GMT
#256
Nice.

As for those saying unreasonable force, I don't care. Throw rocks at cars, get shot by crossbow, instant justice. Don't like it? Don't throw rocks at cars.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
August 31 2011 04:08 GMT
#257
On August 31 2011 13:07 Tektos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 13:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:58 Tektos wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:53 deathserv wrote:
I was amused by this as well, but as a law student, I also acknowledge that what occurred was potentially attempted murder depending on the sequence of events... I suppose that I shouldn't be surprised at the depths of stupidity in our country sometimes...



I agree, throwing rocks at moving cars is potentially attempted murder.



it was in a neighborhood usually on residential streets the speed limit is around 25 MPH the size of the rock or the speed of the car was never mentioned you're grasping at straws trying to compare it to a crossbow shot


I did say potentially.


And to go with your point, the rock size and speed were never mentioned so it is just as justifiable to assume he was going 60 mph and the rock weighed 2 kg as it is to assume the car was going 5 mph and the rock weighed 10 grams.

no its not because when you take into account hte location the speed limit couldn't have been higher than 30 MPH and if the driver were speeding that would probably get a mention
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
August 31 2011 04:09 GMT
#258
On August 31 2011 13:08 Bobgrimly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 13:03 Brethern wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:54 Torte de Lini wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:51 Bobgrimly wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:42 Torte de Lini wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:36 Bobgrimly wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:28 Bobgrimly wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:19 Bobgrimly wrote:
If the kid died I wouldn't blame the shooter. I would blame the kids parents. My parents taught me right from wrong.
If you are stupid enough to discuss whether or not the shooter over reacted the first thing you should be discussing is how a child is not taught that throwing rocks at a moving vehicle can result in damage to not only property but to the drivers and occupants of said vehicles. Make excuses for the kid all you like. Because he is a kid is no excuse. What he was doing had potentially lethal consequences.

Lets all laugh at the dumb kid and enjoy this as it should be enjoyed. A relatively cheap lesson he learned without the help of his obviously useless parents.

are you an anarchocapitalist this is a serious qustion


Nope. Just believe that if you are foolish enough to analyse a random event and start making condemnations then you should start at the beginning. The kid obviously doesn't respect people or their property. Something my parents taught me.

So blame the parents. If the kid wasn't being a little prick I doubt anyone would be laughing at the fact he was shot. Had he been minding his own business and was shot in the manner he was most people would be very eager to form a lynch mob for the shooter. So the problem started with the kid and his lack of respect. Hence its funny he got hurt. Stop trying to be all upset over something that is hilarious karma as many people have pointed out.

you should look into it because what you're advocating is pretty much lawless vigilante justice


You are a mindless troll but I am bored so I will bite. If you had reading comprehension past a 2 year old level you might be able to see I am pointing out that his parenting led to his current hospitalisation and perhaps if people taught their children respect for other people and their property, crime would be non existent. Unfortunately there are many bad parents so I guess its ok for kids to act like a delinquent and then for you to get upset when they suffer for their delinquency.

Just remember next time you want to throw rocks... someone might have a crossbow or worse... a GUN. Tell your kids!!!


Why are you being condescending?

No amount of damage is the equivalent of hurting a child, despite the age.
Believe it or not, kids know right from wrong, they just can't measure the severity. Throwing rocks at cars seems minor, it won't break the car and if the rocks were small, they wouldn't do any major damage.

Do you think a child, who can't drive nor know the costs of cars or the ideas of scratching or denting is aware that rocks at cars causes severe monetary damage?

Be realistic. A child's comprehension is not the equivalent of our's. The idea of "knowing right from wrong" is a broad generalization which you never refine on the finer points such as severity and depth of one's "wrongness".

It's not bad parenting, it's just a lack of grasping the situation.

You can't blame bad parenting all the time. Especially when the person overreacted. Just because the legitimate ways of reporting an incident or teaching a child what he is doing is wrong/discouraging isn't as strong or extensively treated to your standard doesn't mean going to the extreme is suddenly acceptable or the norm.


You can and should blame parents and children. Parents take on the responsibility of raising children when they make them. They should be responsible for their actions. Until the child is of legal age or emancipated the parents should be responsible for its actions. Simple really. Just means as a parent you ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE A PARENT to your child.


Nice leap.
Blaming the parents for the irrational thinking of the child is correct.
Blaming the parents for his hospitalization is leaping.

Good try.

It's so easy to tell parents to parent properly without taking into account their situation or socioeconomic status.

I'm not sure about you but telling your kids not the throw rocks at cars followed by a backhand across the face is a pretty good method of teaching your kids.

If the parents aren't willing to use a little force, when force is going to be used it's going to be severe.



This man gets it. Betting the people shocked at the driver are also people who don't believe there is ever reason to smack a child. But I would rather get a smack from a parent teaching me a lesson than a crossbow bolt from a driver teaching me the same lesson.


every child psychologist pretty much disagrees
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August 31 2011 04:10 GMT
#259
On August 31 2011 13:07 Tektos wrote:
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On August 31 2011 13:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:58 Tektos wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:53 deathserv wrote:
I was amused by this as well, but as a law student, I also acknowledge that what occurred was potentially attempted murder depending on the sequence of events... I suppose that I shouldn't be surprised at the depths of stupidity in our country sometimes...



I agree, throwing rocks at moving cars is potentially attempted murder.



it was in a neighborhood usually on residential streets the speed limit is around 25 MPH the size of the rock or the speed of the car was never mentioned you're grasping at straws trying to compare it to a crossbow shot


I did say potentially.


And to go with your point, the rock size and speed were never mentioned so it is just as justifiable to assume he was going 60 mph and the rock weighed 2 kg as it is to assume the car was going 5 mph and the rock weighed 10 grams.


it is not justifiable to assume he was going anywhere near 60mpg.

He was probably going at a speed between 15-35. In California, residential area speeds are 25 and it is almost impossible to drive at a speed faster than 40 in these areas.
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August 31 2011 04:10 GMT
#260
Pretty crazy that some guy did a drive-by with a crossbow on a kid that was just throwing rocks at cars, not exactly a good way to punish a kid but I guess it stops him from doing it again. Gotta admit though, the guy was a hell of a shot if he got the kid in dead center of his body while in a moving car.
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