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On August 31 2011 13:15 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 13:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On August 31 2011 13:07 Tektos wrote:On August 31 2011 13:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On August 31 2011 12:58 Tektos wrote:On August 31 2011 12:53 deathserv wrote:
I was amused by this as well, but as a law student, I also acknowledge that what occurred was potentially attempted murder depending on the sequence of events... I suppose that I shouldn't be surprised at the depths of stupidity in our country sometimes... I agree, throwing rocks at moving cars is potentially attempted murder.  it was in a neighborhood usually on residential streets the speed limit is around 25 MPH the size of the rock or the speed of the car was never mentioned you're grasping at straws trying to compare it to a crossbow shot I did say potentially. And to go with your point, the rock size and speed were never mentioned so it is just as justifiable to assume he was going 60 mph and the rock weighed 2 kg as it is to assume the car was going 5 mph and the rock weighed 10 grams. no its not because when you take into account hte location the speed limit couldn't have been higher than 30 MPH and if the driver were speeding that would probably get a mention I find it difficult to believe he was going faster than 30 or so just because he was able to stop, get the crossbow, get it through the window, line up a shot, and still have a shot before the kid had bolted out of range or gotten to cover. You know if he'd had to back up the kid would have had time to get clear.
Way to read the OP!
San Diego police say a boy throwing rocks at vehicles was struck in the abdomen by a crossbow bolt fired by a passenger in small sport utility vehicle.
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i repeat myself: how can i child (op lacks information of age) really know if it was doing stupid or wrong. it may have an idea that something is wrong. but really, since the op lacks any information of age or weight of the rock, how can you justify being shot by a crossbow?
to hit you have to be prepared, which is in my opinion much heavier act of crime.
(sorry for lacking grammar etc)
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On August 31 2011 12:07 Enervate wrote:
How can you side with the crossbow guy? The kid could have been seriously hurt or killed. Wtf is wrong with you people?
I'm not saying it's not funny (because of how unexpected it is), but when people are seriously suggesting the kid deserved to get shot or when people applaud this guy, that's just really bad.
And throwing a rock, while the car is passing at 40+mph isn't just as dangerous? That could shatter a windshield and take a guys head right off... The little shit got lucky the crossbow didn't kill him.
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On August 31 2011 13:20 Bobgrimly wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 13:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
it's even more disturbing that people think it's funny tbh there is nothing funny about this Never watched roadrunner and wile E coyote huh? You play with fire you are going to get burned. And its funny to a casual observer. Get off your high horse. Learn to laugh. And enjoy life. And idiots being hurt doing idiotic things is one way to get a free laugh.
i don't think it's funny when people attempt to murder children i don't think i really need to get off my high horse
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what a stupid ass kid. Probably need to think twice before doing that again.
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That's probably the last time he throws a rock at a car and justice is served. Everyone is better off.
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On August 31 2011 13:19 Tektos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 13:18 Nella wrote:On August 31 2011 13:12 Tektos wrote:On August 31 2011 13:10 Nella wrote:On August 31 2011 13:07 Tektos wrote:On August 31 2011 13:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On August 31 2011 12:58 Tektos wrote:On August 31 2011 12:53 deathserv wrote:
I was amused by this as well, but as a law student, I also acknowledge that what occurred was potentially attempted murder depending on the sequence of events... I suppose that I shouldn't be surprised at the depths of stupidity in our country sometimes... I agree, throwing rocks at moving cars is potentially attempted murder. it was in a neighborhood usually on residential streets the speed limit is around 25 MPH the size of the rock or the speed of the car was never mentioned you're grasping at straws trying to compare it to a crossbow shot I did say potentially. And to go with your point, the rock size and speed were never mentioned so it is just as justifiable to assume he was going 60 mph and the rock weighed 2 kg as it is to assume the car was going 5 mph and the rock weighed 10 grams. it is not justifiable to assume he was going anywhere near 60mpg. He was probably going at a speed between 15-35. In California, residential area speeds are 25 and it is almost impossible to drive at a speed faster than 40 in these areas. You don't think a rock can be dangerous when thrown at a car doing 25 mph? ..... Where exactly did i say i didn't think it was dangerous........ I was only pointing out your ridiculous assumptions on the speed of the car
I didn't assume anything. I was simply stating that the article did not specify anything more than it was a moving vehicle so it doesn't matter if he was going 20mph or 20000mph, throwing rocks at moving cars can potentially kill people.
You assumed that the speeds could have been as high as 60 mph.
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On August 31 2011 13:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 13:20 Bobgrimly wrote:On August 31 2011 13:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
it's even more disturbing that people think it's funny tbh there is nothing funny about this Never watched roadrunner and wile E coyote huh? You play with fire you are going to get burned. And its funny to a casual observer. Get off your high horse. Learn to laugh. And enjoy life. And idiots being hurt doing idiotic things is one way to get a free laugh. i don't think it's funny when people attempt to murder children i don't think i really need to get off my high horse
How do you know he was attempting to murder the kid?
Unless, of course, YOU are the crossbow shooter...
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You guys are bashing the shooter as if he had a gun. Clearly the crossbow was in professional care and thus the shot was not fatal. IMO this is just an adult teaching a kid a lesson. When I read this I choked on the water I was drinking, so funny.
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On August 31 2011 13:21 Spacekyod wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 13:15 JingleHell wrote:On August 31 2011 13:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On August 31 2011 13:07 Tektos wrote:On August 31 2011 13:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On August 31 2011 12:58 Tektos wrote:On August 31 2011 12:53 deathserv wrote:
I was amused by this as well, but as a law student, I also acknowledge that what occurred was potentially attempted murder depending on the sequence of events... I suppose that I shouldn't be surprised at the depths of stupidity in our country sometimes... I agree, throwing rocks at moving cars is potentially attempted murder. it was in a neighborhood usually on residential streets the speed limit is around 25 MPH the size of the rock or the speed of the car was never mentioned you're grasping at straws trying to compare it to a crossbow shot I did say potentially. And to go with your point, the rock size and speed were never mentioned so it is just as justifiable to assume he was going 60 mph and the rock weighed 2 kg as it is to assume the car was going 5 mph and the rock weighed 10 grams. no its not because when you take into account hte location the speed limit couldn't have been higher than 30 MPH and if the driver were speeding that would probably get a mention I find it difficult to believe he was going faster than 30 or so just because he was able to stop, get the crossbow, get it through the window, line up a shot, and still have a shot before the kid had bolted out of range or gotten to cover. You know if he'd had to back up the kid would have had time to get clear. Way to read the OP! Show nested quote +San Diego police say a boy throwing rocks at vehicles was struck in the abdomen by a crossbow bolt fired by a passenger in small sport utility vehicle.
I assume the fact that the passenger did the shooting makes it much easier to hit a target with a crossbow while moving? Or makes grabbing the thing and aiming it easier? Or makes it possible to aim a crossbow backwards through a window with that sort of accuracy? The time involved doesn't rely on what seat the shooter was sitting in.
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On August 31 2011 13:21 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 12:07 Enervate wrote:
How can you side with the crossbow guy? The kid could have been seriously hurt or killed. Wtf is wrong with you people?
I'm not saying it's not funny (because of how unexpected it is), but when people are seriously suggesting the kid deserved to get shot or when people applaud this guy, that's just really bad. And throwing a rock, while the car is passing at 40+mph isn't just as dangerous? That could shatter a windshield and take a guys head right off... The little shit got lucky the crossbow didn't kill him.
No one said it isn't dangerous.
Here's a thought experiment for you.
-You see a person speeding on the same road you are on, and he is driving erratically as well.
-You stop at the same red light, and you are able to note the car's license plate as well as a description of the driver.
Now, do you:
A) Get out of your car with a gun, and shoot the driver of the speeding car?
or
B) Call the police and report the driver of the speeding car?
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On August 31 2011 13:24 Spacekyod wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 13:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On August 31 2011 13:20 Bobgrimly wrote:On August 31 2011 13:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
it's even more disturbing that people think it's funny tbh there is nothing funny about this Never watched roadrunner and wile E coyote huh? You play with fire you are going to get burned. And its funny to a casual observer. Get off your high horse. Learn to laugh. And enjoy life. And idiots being hurt doing idiotic things is one way to get a free laugh. i don't think it's funny when people attempt to murder children i don't think i really need to get off my high horse How do you know he was attempting to murder the kid? Unless, of course, YOU are the crossbow shooter...
How can you not attempt murder by shooting someone with a deadly weapon?
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On August 31 2011 13:24 Spacekyod wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 13:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On August 31 2011 13:20 Bobgrimly wrote:On August 31 2011 13:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
it's even more disturbing that people think it's funny tbh there is nothing funny about this Never watched roadrunner and wile E coyote huh? You play with fire you are going to get burned. And its funny to a casual observer. Get off your high horse. Learn to laugh. And enjoy life. And idiots being hurt doing idiotic things is one way to get a free laugh. i don't think it's funny when people attempt to murder children i don't think i really need to get off my high horse How do you know he was attempting to murder the kid? Unless, of course, YOU are the crossbow shooter...
he shot him in the chest with a crossbow lmfao what are you even saying right now
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I'm slightly ashamed to admit that I cracked a smile when I read this.
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On August 31 2011 13:23 Nella wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 13:19 Tektos wrote:On August 31 2011 13:18 Nella wrote:On August 31 2011 13:12 Tektos wrote:On August 31 2011 13:10 Nella wrote:On August 31 2011 13:07 Tektos wrote:On August 31 2011 13:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On August 31 2011 12:58 Tektos wrote:On August 31 2011 12:53 deathserv wrote:
I was amused by this as well, but as a law student, I also acknowledge that what occurred was potentially attempted murder depending on the sequence of events... I suppose that I shouldn't be surprised at the depths of stupidity in our country sometimes... I agree, throwing rocks at moving cars is potentially attempted murder. it was in a neighborhood usually on residential streets the speed limit is around 25 MPH the size of the rock or the speed of the car was never mentioned you're grasping at straws trying to compare it to a crossbow shot I did say potentially. And to go with your point, the rock size and speed were never mentioned so it is just as justifiable to assume he was going 60 mph and the rock weighed 2 kg as it is to assume the car was going 5 mph and the rock weighed 10 grams. it is not justifiable to assume he was going anywhere near 60mpg. He was probably going at a speed between 15-35. In California, residential area speeds are 25 and it is almost impossible to drive at a speed faster than 40 in these areas. You don't think a rock can be dangerous when thrown at a car doing 25 mph? ..... Where exactly did i say i didn't think it was dangerous........ I was only pointing out your ridiculous assumptions on the speed of the car
I didn't assume anything. I was simply stating that the article did not specify anything more than it was a moving vehicle so it doesn't matter if he was going 20mph or 20000mph, throwing rocks at moving cars can potentially kill people. You assumed that the speeds could have been as high as 60 mph.
Any of the passers by could have been going nearly any speed. What if a motorbike was passing? It could most certainly have been going 60mph so long as it was a properly paved road. Assuming that is it impossible to do these speeds through that street when you have no details of the street other than the speed limit was probably around 30mph is the silly assumption to make.
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On August 31 2011 13:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 13:24 Spacekyod wrote:On August 31 2011 13:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On August 31 2011 13:20 Bobgrimly wrote:On August 31 2011 13:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
it's even more disturbing that people think it's funny tbh there is nothing funny about this Never watched roadrunner and wile E coyote huh? You play with fire you are going to get burned. And its funny to a casual observer. Get off your high horse. Learn to laugh. And enjoy life. And idiots being hurt doing idiotic things is one way to get a free laugh. i don't think it's funny when people attempt to murder children i don't think i really need to get off my high horse How do you know he was attempting to murder the kid? Unless, of course, YOU are the crossbow shooter... he shot him in the chest with a crossbow lmfao what are you even saying right now
maybe he was aiming for the arm that was throwing rocks. You never know. Guy probably has bad aim.
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On August 31 2011 13:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 13:08 Bobgrimly wrote:On August 31 2011 13:03 Brethern wrote:On August 31 2011 12:54 Torte de Lini wrote:On August 31 2011 12:51 Bobgrimly wrote:On August 31 2011 12:42 Torte de Lini wrote:On August 31 2011 12:36 Bobgrimly wrote:On August 31 2011 12:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On August 31 2011 12:28 Bobgrimly wrote:On August 31 2011 12:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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are you an anarchocapitalist this is a serious qustion Nope. Just believe that if you are foolish enough to analyse a random event and start making condemnations then you should start at the beginning. The kid obviously doesn't respect people or their property. Something my parents taught me. So blame the parents. If the kid wasn't being a little prick I doubt anyone would be laughing at the fact he was shot. Had he been minding his own business and was shot in the manner he was most people would be very eager to form a lynch mob for the shooter. So the problem started with the kid and his lack of respect. Hence its funny he got hurt. Stop trying to be all upset over something that is hilarious karma as many people have pointed out. you should look into it because what you're advocating is pretty much lawless vigilante justice You are a mindless troll but I am bored so I will bite. If you had reading comprehension past a 2 year old level you might be able to see I am pointing out that his parenting led to his current hospitalisation and perhaps if people taught their children respect for other people and their property, crime would be non existent. Unfortunately there are many bad parents so I guess its ok for kids to act like a delinquent and then for you to get upset when they suffer for their delinquency. Just remember next time you want to throw rocks... someone might have a crossbow or worse... a GUN. Tell your kids!!! Why are you being condescending? No amount of damage is the equivalent of hurting a child, despite the age. Believe it or not, kids know right from wrong, they just can't measure the severity. Throwing rocks at cars seems minor, it won't break the car and if the rocks were small, they wouldn't do any major damage. Do you think a child, who can't drive nor know the costs of cars or the ideas of scratching or denting is aware that rocks at cars causes severe monetary damage? Be realistic. A child's comprehension is not the equivalent of our's. The idea of "knowing right from wrong" is a broad generalization which you never refine on the finer points such as severity and depth of one's "wrongness". It's not bad parenting, it's just a lack of grasping the situation. You can't blame bad parenting all the time. Especially when the person overreacted. Just because the legitimate ways of reporting an incident or teaching a child what he is doing is wrong/discouraging isn't as strong or extensively treated to your standard doesn't mean going to the extreme is suddenly acceptable or the norm. You can and should blame parents and children. Parents take on the responsibility of raising children when they make them. They should be responsible for their actions. Until the child is of legal age or emancipated the parents should be responsible for its actions. Simple really. Just means as a parent you ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE A PARENT to your child. Nice leap. Blaming the parents for the irrational thinking of the child is correct. Blaming the parents for his hospitalization is leaping. Good try. It's so easy to tell parents to parent properly without taking into account their situation or socioeconomic status. I'm not sure about you but telling your kids not the throw rocks at cars followed by a backhand across the face is a pretty good method of teaching your kids. If the parents aren't willing to use a little force, when force is going to be used it's going to be severe. This man gets it. Betting the people shocked at the driver are also people who don't believe there is ever reason to smack a child. But I would rather get a smack from a parent teaching me a lesson than a crossbow bolt from a driver teaching me the same lesson. every child psychologist pretty much disagrees
And how many of them have kids of their own?
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On August 31 2011 13:27 Tektos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 13:23 Nella wrote:On August 31 2011 13:19 Tektos wrote:On August 31 2011 13:18 Nella wrote:On August 31 2011 13:12 Tektos wrote:On August 31 2011 13:10 Nella wrote:On August 31 2011 13:07 Tektos wrote:On August 31 2011 13:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On August 31 2011 12:58 Tektos wrote:On August 31 2011 12:53 deathserv wrote:
I was amused by this as well, but as a law student, I also acknowledge that what occurred was potentially attempted murder depending on the sequence of events... I suppose that I shouldn't be surprised at the depths of stupidity in our country sometimes... I agree, throwing rocks at moving cars is potentially attempted murder. it was in a neighborhood usually on residential streets the speed limit is around 25 MPH the size of the rock or the speed of the car was never mentioned you're grasping at straws trying to compare it to a crossbow shot I did say potentially. And to go with your point, the rock size and speed were never mentioned so it is just as justifiable to assume he was going 60 mph and the rock weighed 2 kg as it is to assume the car was going 5 mph and the rock weighed 10 grams. it is not justifiable to assume he was going anywhere near 60mpg. He was probably going at a speed between 15-35. In California, residential area speeds are 25 and it is almost impossible to drive at a speed faster than 40 in these areas. You don't think a rock can be dangerous when thrown at a car doing 25 mph? ..... Where exactly did i say i didn't think it was dangerous........ I was only pointing out your ridiculous assumptions on the speed of the car
I didn't assume anything. I was simply stating that the article did not specify anything more than it was a moving vehicle so it doesn't matter if he was going 20mph or 20000mph, throwing rocks at moving cars can potentially kill people. You assumed that the speeds could have been as high as 60 mph. Any of the passers by could have been going nearly any speed. What if a motorbike was passing? It could most certainly have been going 60mph so long as it was a properly paved road. Assuming that is it impossible to do these speeds through that street when you have no details of the street other than the speed limit was probably around 30mph is the silly assumption to make.
As i have said..
I live in the area. So, yes i do have details.
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On August 31 2011 13:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 13:20 Bobgrimly wrote:On August 31 2011 13:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
it's even more disturbing that people think it's funny tbh there is nothing funny about this Never watched roadrunner and wile E coyote huh? You play with fire you are going to get burned. And its funny to a casual observer. Get off your high horse. Learn to laugh. And enjoy life. And idiots being hurt doing idiotic things is one way to get a free laugh. i don't think it's funny when people attempt to murder children i don't think i really need to get off my high horse
Who said anything about attempting to murder the child? He just fired a projectile back at the person throwing projectiles at him. Tit for tat. If he wanted to murder the kid I think he would have stopped and gone and finished the job seeing as the kid probably couldn't run fast with a bolt in him. He probably just wanted to scare him and probably didn't even mean to succeed in hitting him. You are making way to many assumptions about the shooters motivation and goals.
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Two kids in my town ended up killing a passenger in a car by throwing rocks from an overpass. So, this is nothing to take lightly. Perhaps a non-lethal wound from a crossbow was a blessing for this kid.
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